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meanwhile in Russia
Appeal of the All-Russian Officers' Assembly to the President and citizens of the Russian Federation
http://ooc.su/news/obrashhenie_obshh.../2022-01-31-79
Appeal of the All-Russian Officers' Assembly to the President and citizens of the Russian Federation
http://ooc.su/news/obrashhenie_obshh.../2022-01-31-79
Address of the All-Russian Officers' Assembly
to the President and citizens of the Russian Federation
Today humanity lives in anticipation of war. And war is the inevitable loss of life, destruction, suffering of large masses of people, the destruction of the usual way of life, the violation of the vital systems of states and peoples. A big war is a huge tragedy, someone's serious crime. It so happened that Russia was at the center of this impending catastrophe. And, perhaps, this is the first time in its history.
Previously, Russia (USSR) waged forced (just) wars, and, as a rule, when there was no other way out, when the vital interests of the state and society were threatened.
And what threatens the existence of Russia itself today, and are there such threats? It can be argued that there is indeed a threat - the country is on the verge of completing its history. All vital areas, including demography, are steadily degrading, and the rate of population extinction is breaking world records. And degradation is systemic in nature, and in any complex system, the destruction of one of the elements can lead to the collapse of the entire system.
And this, in our opinion, is the main threat to the Russian Federation. But this is a threat of an internal nature, emanating from the model of the state, the quality of power and the state of society. And the reasons for its formation are internal: the unviability of the state model, the complete incapacity and lack of professionalism of the system of power and administration, the passivity and disorganization of society. In this state, any country does not live long.
As for external threats, they are certainly present. But, according to our expert assessment, they are not currently critical, directly threatening the existence of Russian statehood, its vital interests. On the whole, strategic stability is maintained, nuclear weapons are under reliable control, NATO force groupings are not building up, and they are not showing threatening activity.
Therefore, the situation that is being whipped up around Ukraine is, first of all, artificial, mercenary in nature for some internal forces, including the Russian Federation. As a result of the collapse of the USSR, in which Russia (Yeltsin) took a decisive part, Ukraine became an independent state, a member of the UN, and in accordance with Art. 51 of the UN Charter has the right to individual and collective defence.
The leadership of the Russian Federation has not yet recognized the results of the referendum on the independence of the DPR and LPR, while at the official level more than once, including during the Minsk negotiation process, emphasized the belonging of their territories and population to Ukraine.
It has also been said more than once at a high level about the desire to maintain normal relations with Kiev, without singling out special relations with the DPR and LPR.
The issue of the genocide perpetrated by Kiev in the south-eastern regions was not raised either in the UN or in the OSCE. Naturally, in order for Ukraine to remain a friendly neighbor for Russia, it was necessary for it to demonstrate the attractiveness of the Russian model of the state and the system of power.
But the Russian Federation did not become one, its development model and foreign policy mechanism of international cooperation repel almost all neighbors, and not only.
The acquisition of Crimea and Sevastopol by Russia and their non-recognition as Russian by the international community (and, therefore, the overwhelming number of states in the world still consider them to belong to Ukraine) convincingly shows the failure of Russian foreign policy, and the unattractiveness of domestic.
Attempts to โloveโ the Russian Federation and its leadership through an ultimatum and threats of the use of force are senseless and extremely dangerous.
The use of military force against Ukraine, firstly, will call into question the existence of Russia itself as a state; secondly, it will forever make Russians and Ukrainians mortal enemies. Thirdly, there will be thousands (tens of thousands) of dead young, healthy guys on one side and on the other, which will certainly affect the future demographic situation in our dying countries. On the battlefield, if this happens, Russian troops will face not only Ukrainian military personnel, among whom there will be many Russian guys, but also military personnel and equipment from many NATO countries, and the member states of the alliance will be obliged to declare war on Russia.
President of the Republic of Turkey R. Erdogan clearly stated which side Turkey would fight on. And it can be assumed that two Turkish field armies and a fleet will be ordered to "liberate" the Crimea and Sevastopol and possibly invade the Caucasus.
In addition, Russia will definitely be included in the category of countries that threaten peace and international security, will be subject to the heaviest sanctions, will turn into a pariah of the world community, and will probably be deprived of the status of an independent state.
The president and the government, the Ministry of Defense cannot fail to understand such consequences, they are not so stupid.
The question arises: what are the true goals of provoking tension on the brink of war, and the possible unleashing of large-scale hostilities? And that there will be, says the number and combat composition of the groupings of troops formed by the parties - no less than one hundred thousand servicemen from each side. Russia, exposing the eastern borders, is transferring formations to the borders of Ukraine.
In our opinion, the country's leadership, realizing that it is not capable of leading the country out of the systemic crisis, and this can lead to an uprising of the people and a change of power in the country, with the support of the oligarchy, corrupt officials, lured media and security forces, decided to activate the political line for the final destruction Russian statehood and the extermination of the indigenous population of the country.
And war is the means that will solve this problem in order to retain its anti-national power for a while and preserve the wealth stolen from the people. We cannot suggest any other explanation.
From the President of the Russian Federation, we are officers of Russia, we demand to abandon the criminal policy of provoking a war in which the Russian Federation will find itself alone against the united forces of the West, to create conditions for the implementation of Art. 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation and resign.
We appeal to all retired and retired military personnel, citizens of Russia with a recommendation to be vigilant, organized, support the demands of the Council of the All-Russian Officers' Assembly, actively oppose propaganda and unleashing a war, and prevent an internal civil conflict with the use of military force.
Chairman of the All-Russian Officers' Assembly Colonel-General Ivashov L.G.
doesn't sound too good for pooty boyto the President and citizens of the Russian Federation
Today humanity lives in anticipation of war. And war is the inevitable loss of life, destruction, suffering of large masses of people, the destruction of the usual way of life, the violation of the vital systems of states and peoples. A big war is a huge tragedy, someone's serious crime. It so happened that Russia was at the center of this impending catastrophe. And, perhaps, this is the first time in its history.
Previously, Russia (USSR) waged forced (just) wars, and, as a rule, when there was no other way out, when the vital interests of the state and society were threatened.
And what threatens the existence of Russia itself today, and are there such threats? It can be argued that there is indeed a threat - the country is on the verge of completing its history. All vital areas, including demography, are steadily degrading, and the rate of population extinction is breaking world records. And degradation is systemic in nature, and in any complex system, the destruction of one of the elements can lead to the collapse of the entire system.
And this, in our opinion, is the main threat to the Russian Federation. But this is a threat of an internal nature, emanating from the model of the state, the quality of power and the state of society. And the reasons for its formation are internal: the unviability of the state model, the complete incapacity and lack of professionalism of the system of power and administration, the passivity and disorganization of society. In this state, any country does not live long.
As for external threats, they are certainly present. But, according to our expert assessment, they are not currently critical, directly threatening the existence of Russian statehood, its vital interests. On the whole, strategic stability is maintained, nuclear weapons are under reliable control, NATO force groupings are not building up, and they are not showing threatening activity.
Therefore, the situation that is being whipped up around Ukraine is, first of all, artificial, mercenary in nature for some internal forces, including the Russian Federation. As a result of the collapse of the USSR, in which Russia (Yeltsin) took a decisive part, Ukraine became an independent state, a member of the UN, and in accordance with Art. 51 of the UN Charter has the right to individual and collective defence.
The leadership of the Russian Federation has not yet recognized the results of the referendum on the independence of the DPR and LPR, while at the official level more than once, including during the Minsk negotiation process, emphasized the belonging of their territories and population to Ukraine.
It has also been said more than once at a high level about the desire to maintain normal relations with Kiev, without singling out special relations with the DPR and LPR.
The issue of the genocide perpetrated by Kiev in the south-eastern regions was not raised either in the UN or in the OSCE. Naturally, in order for Ukraine to remain a friendly neighbor for Russia, it was necessary for it to demonstrate the attractiveness of the Russian model of the state and the system of power.
But the Russian Federation did not become one, its development model and foreign policy mechanism of international cooperation repel almost all neighbors, and not only.
The acquisition of Crimea and Sevastopol by Russia and their non-recognition as Russian by the international community (and, therefore, the overwhelming number of states in the world still consider them to belong to Ukraine) convincingly shows the failure of Russian foreign policy, and the unattractiveness of domestic.
Attempts to โloveโ the Russian Federation and its leadership through an ultimatum and threats of the use of force are senseless and extremely dangerous.
The use of military force against Ukraine, firstly, will call into question the existence of Russia itself as a state; secondly, it will forever make Russians and Ukrainians mortal enemies. Thirdly, there will be thousands (tens of thousands) of dead young, healthy guys on one side and on the other, which will certainly affect the future demographic situation in our dying countries. On the battlefield, if this happens, Russian troops will face not only Ukrainian military personnel, among whom there will be many Russian guys, but also military personnel and equipment from many NATO countries, and the member states of the alliance will be obliged to declare war on Russia.
President of the Republic of Turkey R. Erdogan clearly stated which side Turkey would fight on. And it can be assumed that two Turkish field armies and a fleet will be ordered to "liberate" the Crimea and Sevastopol and possibly invade the Caucasus.
In addition, Russia will definitely be included in the category of countries that threaten peace and international security, will be subject to the heaviest sanctions, will turn into a pariah of the world community, and will probably be deprived of the status of an independent state.
The president and the government, the Ministry of Defense cannot fail to understand such consequences, they are not so stupid.
The question arises: what are the true goals of provoking tension on the brink of war, and the possible unleashing of large-scale hostilities? And that there will be, says the number and combat composition of the groupings of troops formed by the parties - no less than one hundred thousand servicemen from each side. Russia, exposing the eastern borders, is transferring formations to the borders of Ukraine.
In our opinion, the country's leadership, realizing that it is not capable of leading the country out of the systemic crisis, and this can lead to an uprising of the people and a change of power in the country, with the support of the oligarchy, corrupt officials, lured media and security forces, decided to activate the political line for the final destruction Russian statehood and the extermination of the indigenous population of the country.
And war is the means that will solve this problem in order to retain its anti-national power for a while and preserve the wealth stolen from the people. We cannot suggest any other explanation.
From the President of the Russian Federation, we are officers of Russia, we demand to abandon the criminal policy of provoking a war in which the Russian Federation will find itself alone against the united forces of the West, to create conditions for the implementation of Art. 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation and resign.
We appeal to all retired and retired military personnel, citizens of Russia with a recommendation to be vigilant, organized, support the demands of the Council of the All-Russian Officers' Assembly, actively oppose propaganda and unleashing a war, and prevent an internal civil conflict with the use of military force.
Chairman of the All-Russian Officers' Assembly Colonel-General Ivashov L.G.
02-08-2022, 07:11 PM
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They. Will. Not. Attack. NATO. Countries
People within their own government are very away of what would happen if that didn't take place. Idk why people keep talking about some hypothetical nuclear war or missile crisis... They are not the same
People within their own government are very away of what would happen if that didn't take place. Idk why people keep talking about some hypothetical nuclear war or missile crisis... They are not the same
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About 70% of Ukraine's population are ethnic Ukrainians. They consider themselves Ukrainian in ethnicity and not Russian. They speak Ukrainian language and they almost exclusively hate the Russian government.
About 25% of Ukraine's population(I'm including Crimea and Donbas here) are people who speak Russian and only about a third of them have a positive view of the Russian government and its actions towards Ukraine. About half of those are in Donbas and Crimea which Russia already controls.
In the rest of Ukraine outside of Donbas and Crimea, there is very little who view the Russian government positively.
I don't pick and choose between the US gov and the Russian gov any longer. Both are equally tyrant-controlled and WEF/Great Reset-allied governments who need to get bent.
However I do support the Ukrainian people who are caught in the middle of this madness. It's all an evil game and they're simply yet more of its victims.
About 25% of Ukraine's population(I'm including Crimea and Donbas here) are people who speak Russian and only about a third of them have a positive view of the Russian government and its actions towards Ukraine. About half of those are in Donbas and Crimea which Russia already controls.
In the rest of Ukraine outside of Donbas and Crimea, there is very little who view the Russian government positively.
I don't pick and choose between the US gov and the Russian gov any longer. Both are equally tyrant-controlled and WEF/Great Reset-allied governments who need to get bent.
However I do support the Ukrainian people who are caught in the middle of this madness. It's all an evil game and they're simply yet more of its victims.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
luke u are blinded by propagandaAbout 70% of Ukraine's population are ethnic Ukrainians. They consider themselves Ukrainian in ethnicity and not Russian. They speak Ukrainian language and they almost exclusively hate the Russian government.
About 25% of Ukraine's population(I'm including Crimea and Donbas here) are people who speak Russian and only about a third of them have a positive view of the Russian government and its actions towards Ukraine. About half of those are in Donbas and Crimea which Russia already controls.
In the rest of Ukraine outside of Donbas and Crimea, there is very little who view the Russian government positively.
I don't pick and choose between the US gov and the Russian gov any longer. Both are equally tyrant-controlled and WEF/Great Reset-allied governments who need to get bent.
However I do support the Ukrainian people who are caught in the middle of this madness. It's all an evil game and they're simply yet more of its victims.
About 25% of Ukraine's population(I'm including Crimea and Donbas here) are people who speak Russian and only about a third of them have a positive view of the Russian government and its actions towards Ukraine. About half of those are in Donbas and Crimea which Russia already controls.
In the rest of Ukraine outside of Donbas and Crimea, there is very little who view the Russian government positively.
I don't pick and choose between the US gov and the Russian gov any longer. Both are equally tyrant-controlled and WEF/Great Reset-allied governments who need to get bent.
However I do support the Ukrainian people who are caught in the middle of this madness. It's all an evil game and they're simply yet more of its victims.
The US needs to fuk off the region. Ukraine shall not join Nato and everyone will remain in peace
02-08-2022, 11:55 PM
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Good for them. I'm sick of the globohomo agenda that had infected us. All caused by the tribe.
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Originally Posted By Beast92⏩
BOTH the West AND Russia need to fuk off outa Ukraine.luke u are blinded by propaganda
The US needs to fuk off the region. Ukraine shall not join Nato and everyone will remain in peace
The US needs to fuk off the region. Ukraine shall not join Nato and everyone will remain in peace
Before the 2013-2014 Ukrainian revolution there was a hyper-corrupt puppet gov of Moscow in Kiev. THAT is why the revolution was successful along with the fact that the Russians have a history of fking with Ukraine badly including a massive genocide there.
I'm not blinded by anything. I take in all info from all possible sources unlike the vast majority of people and you as well.
I've spent tens of thousands of hours following the Russia-Ukraine situation since 2013 and have numerous mega threads on it at multiple forums including several here. I know what's up.
Besides, Putin and Biden are BOTH agents of the WEF/Schwab/Great Reset plain and simple. Ukrainians are simply caught in an evil game of that global cabal.
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They need a big war so they can usher in even more laws stripping us of rights at home. It will all be done in the name of safety or security, of course.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By nickboy333⏩
Gota do something to fill the vacant airtime now covid is โgoneโ, no one cares about climate change still so ww3 it isMSM is having field days growing the panic on Ukraine/Russia with all these daily articles.
And Biden saying they're gonna invade on a daily basis.
USA of peace lol.
And Biden saying they're gonna invade on a daily basis.
USA of peace lol.
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
Bull**** russian propaganda/10Many of the people living in Ukraine are Russian, almost all of them are in the east. They have Russian names and speak Russian, they like Moscow and hate Kiev. There is no such thing as Ukrainian ethnicity, it's a fabrication. This doesn't apply to the Baltics in the same way. Lithuanians, Estonians and Latvians are distinct historical ethnicities.
It's true the eastern part is russian and crimea is now also full of russians because the other ethnicities were deported there.
Most of Ukraine isn't russian and hates them, also speak their own language.
They suffered immensely udner the yoke of the russians.
02-09-2022, 01:56 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...n-macron-nato/
Top Russian commanders travel to Belarus for combat preparations
Top Russian commanders travel to Belarus for combat preparations
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Originally Posted By nickboy333⏩
This.MSM is having field days growing the panic on Ukraine/Russia with all these daily articles.
And Biden saying they're gonna invade on a daily basis.
USA of peace lol.
And Biden saying they're gonna invade on a daily basis.
USA of peace lol.
all i know is MSM really wants me worried about muh russia.
Also MSM looks the other way whenever china does their chit.
Russia and china have a strong alliance, MSM with their china good russia bad angle is up to some bullchit. really looking to distract at the massive chitshow we have here stateside.
02-09-2022, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted By moosik85⏩
this is it. sad we don't have many level-headed miscers around here anymore.Gota do something to fill the vacant airtime now covid is โgoneโ, no one cares about climate change still so ww3 it is
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Russia needs to act (if they plan to) by the first of March at the latest before the ground starts to thaw out.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/ua/ky...4505?year=2022
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
How is your cuck leader?this is it. sad we don't have many level-headed miscers around here anymore.
02-09-2022, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
Bingo!Russia needs to act (if they plan to) by the first of March at the latest before the ground starts to thaw out.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/ua/ky...4505?year=2022
https://www.accuweather.com/en/ua/ky...4505?year=2022
They need the ground to be solid for the tankregiments to advance quickly. Expect the invasion after the olympics srs
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
They would win, easily. Not sure why you think western militaries full of soyboys commanded by shaniqua would stand a chance.Dont think russia is that suicidal
That being said, they are in no hurry. The west's collapse accelerates every day, it would be a huge strategic error to instigate at any point in the next few years. Their advantage only increases with time.
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Originally Posted By Babayagawick85⏩
Which missiles from Ukraine are we supposed to remove?This lunatic senile man is about to start a war. We need to remove the missiles from Ukraine asap
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Gotta shift all eyes away from how much of a failure our cuck-in-chief is
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Literally a billion times more alpha than what we have nowAlpha as fuk
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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
Thanks PutinGotta shift all eyes away from how much of a failure our cuck-in-chief is
02-09-2022, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
The ones that donโt exist.Which missiles from Ukraine are we supposed to remove?
Iโm not aware of any plans to deploy missiles into Ukraine by nato
02-09-2022, 10:51 AM
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The real question is whether Putin will just back down if Russia doesn't get security guarantees met by the West.
The positioned a serious number of military assets and it would be interesting if they just pull them all back after getting the proverbial middle finger by the West.
Frankly I have no clue what strategy Putin is going for, but he is a very smart man and has something planned.
This is not a buildup from yesterday, it started in Spring 2021. It's a long term plan being put into action by Putin, the West is just reacting to it now.
But the people that believe WW3 will come out of this are hillbilly idiots.
The positioned a serious number of military assets and it would be interesting if they just pull them all back after getting the proverbial middle finger by the West.
Frankly I have no clue what strategy Putin is going for, but he is a very smart man and has something planned.
This is not a buildup from yesterday, it started in Spring 2021. It's a long term plan being put into action by Putin, the West is just reacting to it now.
But the people that believe WW3 will come out of this are hillbilly idiots.
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Originally Posted By nickboy333⏩
Ya nato/us is not going to the ridiculous list of demands by Russia. In fact Iโm pretty sure they already told Russia to go fuk itself on that issue.The real question is whether Putin will just back down if Russia doesn't get security guarantees met by the West.
The positioned a serious number of military assets and it would be interesting if they just pull them all back after getting the proverbial middle finger by the West.
Frankly I have no clue what strategy Putin is going for, but he is a very smart man and has something planned.
This is not a buildup from yesterday, it started in Spring 2021. It's a long term plan being put into action by Putin, the West is just reacting to it now.
But the people that believe WW3 will come out of this are hillbilly idiots.
The positioned a serious number of military assets and it would be interesting if they just pull them all back after getting the proverbial middle finger by the West.
Frankly I have no clue what strategy Putin is going for, but he is a very smart man and has something planned.
This is not a buildup from yesterday, it started in Spring 2021. It's a long term plan being put into action by Putin, the West is just reacting to it now.
But the people that believe WW3 will come out of this are hillbilly idiots.
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
Fuark that's the ultimate mogging video. Putin is living like a fuken Tsar, what a chad.
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
Like we did not want Cuba to have weapons and be on our doorstep, they do not want Ukraine to join Nato and nuke up with missiles that barely have to travel before they could annihilate Moscow.What does have Ukraine have for Russia to risk it all?
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
The risk isn't as high as US media makes you believe.What does have Ukraine have for Russia to risk it all?
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Originally Posted By nickboy333⏩
Lmao
02-09-2022, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By MiamiLife305⏩
And another $10 billion to Israel NOW!!we need to increase the budget to the military industrial complex NOW!11111!!!
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