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Thread: Official Horizon Forbidden West Thread (No Spoilers)

post 1656554293 02-20-2022, 05:59 PM
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One complaint Im hearing that I think is relevant and would annoy me is I've heard people say during puzzle scenes, Aloy tends to talk.... Alot. And goes on to drop hints really early on about what to do. I don't think I want that kind of hand holding through the game and I'm surprised they haven't added an option to remove it.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Lmfao @ anyone who says this game is much of the same as the first. I'm 12 hours in and this game is an improvement over the first in just about every way.

And for anyone who thought the story in the first was mediocre - the story in this one is fking awesome so far. Just got to a point where I learned some cool chit that I didn't see coming.
love the lore in the first one, the "old world" stuff. Just thought the moment to moment and overall modern world story was poor.
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post 1656556823 02-20-2022, 06:58 PM
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post 1656556933 02-20-2022, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
One complaint Im hearing that I think is relevant and would annoy me is I've heard people say during puzzle scenes, Aloy tends to talk.... Alot. And goes on to drop hints really early on about what to do. I don't think I want that kind of hand holding through the game and I'm surprised they haven't added an option to remove it.
I remember something like this from the first game. Like I'll be thinking about a puzzle and her or some moron npc will start talking and distract me.
post 1656557193 02-20-2022, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted By WHChampion⏩
I remember something like this from the first game. Like I'll be thinking about a puzzle and her or some moron npc will start talking and distract me.
i don't even remember any real puzzles in the first game. It's why the zelda comparisons fell flat for me.
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post 1656558423 02-20-2022, 07:33 PM
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Aloy Is On The Cover Of February's Vanity Fair
post 1656558513 02-20-2022, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
i don't even remember any real puzzles in the first game. It's why the zelda comparisons fell flat for me.
Might just be the DLC then. I played it recently and it had a couple puzzles where you had NPCs that wouldn't stfu.
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So I put in another 3.5 hours today. Basically I decided to not push main line or anything. Game is a big step up in the side quest interactions. I’ll just have to play this and ER together through March.

I also played this second session in favor resolution with low motion blur. I gotta say it’s definitely still playable. Very impressed with how good it feels. I actually put down Ghost of T until the ps5 patch because I found the fps so nauseating coming after primarily PC gaming.

Gotta say I might actually play the rest in resolution mode at 30fps. It’s just not bothering me as much as other console games.

Other than that. Having a blast. Game way improved in dialogue and npc like…acting while they talk. Beautiful game. Gameplay still great and improved upon. Story has enough going for it to keep you interested. Though that still definitely leans into over - exposition same as the first. But I don’t mind.

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post 1656571313 02-21-2022, 03:46 AM
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Is the melee better than the first game?
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post 1656606943 02-21-2022, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Is the melee better than the first game?
The first game had some of the absolute best combat - both ranged and melee of the entire PS4 generation. Kinda hard to improve upon.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
The first game had some of the absolute best combat - both ranged and melee of the entire PS4 generation. Kinda hard to improve upon.
Notsureifsrs. Melee combat was worthless and now it is a little better but still not worth in most situations besides stealth takedowns and critical strikes
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post 1656611153 02-21-2022, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Elvis.Costello⏩
Notsureifsrs. Melee combat was worthless and now it is a little better but still not worth in most situations besides stealth takedowns and critical strikes
Lmao it's pretty widely agreed on that the combat in the first one was fantastic, but if you say so.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Lmao it's pretty widely agreed on that the combat in the first one was fantastic, but if you say so.
Only talking about melee obv. The bow and tools were excellent and are even better now.

Like why would you ever use melee to take 50 swings to kill something you can shoot a few times ya know
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post 1656613693 02-21-2022, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted By mgftp⏩
they seem to be aware of the issues, which is good.https://www.reddit.com/r/horizon/com...visual_issues/
Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Lmao it's pretty widely agreed on that the combat in the first one was fantastic, but if you say so.
the melee was definitely criticized. The ranged combat was praised.
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post 1656624943 02-21-2022, 10:54 PM
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U foking wot m9's?

Aiite lemme be clear on one thing. Horizon is a 3rd person shooter. Just because it uses bows and other ranged weapons due to the setting and lore doesn't change that core mechanic.

I'm sure HFW improved on HZD's melee and made it more viable, but the only time I ever bothered with melee in the original game was when I was surrounded by a mob of weaker machines and needed an "oh fuk get me out of this" attack when my brain had a seizure.

Again, maybe they fixed it in part 2 but I never cared about melee in the original.
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So GOTY? Or elden ring or god of war? Damn I need to get a ps5, main game I want to try is ghost of sushi tbh
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Originally Posted By ryankoch⏩
So GOTY? Or elden ring or god of war? Damn I need to get a ps5, main game I want to try is ghost of sushi tbh
I think from the reviews it got it's far from a lock at GOTY, especially considering what is still to come this year but it'll probably be in the conversation. If you missed Sushi I am assuming you missed other PS4 greats as well so surely worth getting a PS5 IMO. You could play just games from the PS+ collection for awhile before you even buy anything.
post 1656631133 02-22-2022, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Lmao it's pretty widely agreed on that the combat in the first one was fantastic, but if you say so.
Lol what?

It was one of the biggest criticisms of the first game.
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Ok glad you all agree. Relentless you on the sauce brother.
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The melee is still garbage. You're better off using the bow point blank than the spear.
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Originally Posted By Avalanche3319⏩
The melee is still garbage. You're better off using the bow point blank than the spear.
damn, I"m more of a melee player.
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I use her spear all the time. Melee combat to me is better than just about anything else I've played in the last several years. Nothing immediately jumps to mind as being considerably better for sure...
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
I use her spear all the time. Melee combat to me is better than just about anything else I've played in the last several years. Nothing immediately jumps to mind as being considerably better for sure...
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
I use her spear all the time. Melee combat to me is better than just about anything else I've played in the last several years. Nothing immediately jumps to mind as being considerably better for sure...
Dude, I love the game but are you fukin kidding me? I’ve leveled up melee and a spear strike still takes hardly any health from enemies. One shot from a bow is like 4-5 spear hits worth of damage.
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Only time I used a spear in HZD was when I needed an OH CHITE they're too close, panic attack!

I don't think it's intending to be like Tsushima's buttery smooth swordplay. It's a shooter.
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Originally Posted By Avalanche3319⏩
Dude, I love the game but are you fukin kidding me? I’ve leveled up melee and a spear strike still takes hardly any health from enemies. One shot from a bow is like 4-5 spear hits worth of damage.
I never said the bow doesn't do more damage, but it's still plenty viable. There's no way you leveled the staff tree that much if your staff is that trash. It doesn't do the same damage as bows, but you can get 3-4 hits in in the time you can get 2 bow hits in, which is precisely why it's viable. Not to mention the knockdown ability from heavy hits, which is a massive advantage because you then get a free critical hit in while they're down.
Also often times things are shooting at you, charging at you, etc and using the bow just isn't always ideal. Sometimes it really is just easier to go in with the staff.

Lmao @ anyone who claims using her staff isn't viable or good.
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Originally Posted By Coal
One complaint Im hearing that I think is relevant and would annoy me is I've heard people say during puzzle scenes, Aloy tends to talk.... Alot. And goes on to drop hints really early on about what to do. I don't think I want that kind of hand holding through the game and I'm surprised they haven't added an option to remove it.
Correct, she does monologue a bit more and for some puzzles she does "voice" out what she needs to do ... It can be annoying at times when i'm trying to figure stuff out myself, but a couple times while I was exploring she talked about something that I originally missed while running around lol.
Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Is the melee better than the first game?
Improved, still not the best since it feels slightly clunky imo especially using that vaulting jump move, but the melee is definitely more improved.
Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
I never said the bow doesn't do more damage, but it's still plenty viable. There's no way you leveled the staff tree that much if your staff is that trash. It doesn't do the same damage as bows, but you can get 3-4 hits in in the time you can get 2 bow hits in, which is precisely why it's viable. Not to mention the knockdown ability from heavy hits, which is a massive advantage because you then get a free critical hit in while they're down.
Also often times things are shooting at you, charging at you, etc and using the bow just isn't always ideal. Sometimes it really is just easier to go in with the staff.

Lmao @ anyone who claims using her staff isn't viable or good.
The first games melee combat was bad, but like you said her staff is actually pretty damn good ... you can knock over machines and break off it's armor with power attacks sometimes easier than just using the bow, especially for smaller/medium/slightly larger than medium sized creatures.
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Originally Posted By Coal
Only time I used a spear in HZD was when I needed an OH CHITE they're too close, panic attack!

I don't think it's intending to be like Tsushima's buttery smooth swordplay. It's a shooter.
Just curious which game did you feel was better, Tushima or HZD?
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
Just curious which game did you feel was better, Tushima or HZD?
Man, those are my 2 favorite ps4 exclusives. I would go with Horizon but there's many things that Tsushima does better which makes it feel more polished. I can easily name about 10 things which Tsushima mogs Horizon in, but it did come out a few years later.

Main reasons I chose Horizon:

- I enjoy fantasy settings. I think it allows much more to be explored and makes the combat more fun when you can battle things other than just humans. Horizon manages to stay grounded in "reality" but at the same time finds a way to give me giant robots to fight. I just feel more excited for that. As such, the combat was far more varied due to so many enemy types.

- Much more lore and the story plays out like a mystery so you're constantly intrigued and yearning to uncover more. Whereas in Tsushima you play out a war story. Both stories are great but I prefer the former a little.

- Tsushima's open world was prettier, but Horizon's had more things going on. More variations, mysterious things in the world make you want to explore and uncover more. Robots and people roaming about. Villages were livelier and it felt like things were happening while npc's were living out their lives. HZD's world could be improved alot but Tsushima's world felt more empty.
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