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post 1657080453 02-28-2022, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
I'll agree the graphics aren't deserving of the praise and look like a ps4 game remastered for ps5. There's some beautiful scenes and art direction for sure but I'm talking about the actual graphics. And that would be made much clearer if you compare it to a game like Demon's Souls.

That said, I haven't played the game and haven't seen much so I can't offer an opinion if the reviews were overhyped. What I can say is while I like playing linear souls games, they're mostly for the combat, maxing out stats and trying out new gameplay mechanics and the cool mood and atmosphere.

I feel like just having a souls game in a huge open world though, won't be enough to make the game super exciting for me. They would have to add things in regards to quest and story elements to make an open world feel fulfilling and engaging. At least for me. So I hope they were able to do that and I won't just spend most of the game just running around from dungeon to castle to dungeon fighting monsters.
I agree graphics are ok nothing mindblowing like some claim...horizon forbidden west has the best graphics imo. Gran Trismo 7 may claim that throne soon though.

I am loving the game so far.... i think the open world is kinda poointless would much have preferred it to be liks DS and Sekiro but other than that i am having a lot of fun w the game.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Unpopular opinion but I think the game is over hyped and the whole "hardest games ever made" is fukkin dumb. Anyone can make a single player game and ramp up the difficulty and health of bosses.

I don't buy into the faux difficulty of games like this. Making bosses with absurd health that you have to fight for a long ass time just basically trying to have perfect dodges/blocks/attacks is just kind of a "meh" way to make a game difficult. It just feels cheap to me.
The thing is, for these types of games, if you get good enough, you can kill the bosses in 2-3 hits. It's not just any other game but the enemies have more health. Have you even played any of these games?
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The graphics aren't the best but some of the areas look pretty good imo. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. From puts more effort and care into their work than 90% of AAA devs these days. If you don't like their games then don't play them. Simple.
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Originally Posted By DDoc
The graphics aren't the best but some of the areas look pretty good imo. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. From puts more effort and care into their work than 90% of AAA devs these days. If you don't like their games then don't play them. Simple.
I haven’t played any souls games so no fanboy here. I think the graphics are okay. But just okay. But I don’t really play games for graphics as much as immersion as far as single player games. This game is great from my opinion but that’s just me. I love the challenge and open world.

I’m usually a shooter type as well. I was top 100 leaderboards in a shooter game before and I love PUBG. So I’m not speaking from some pov of a fanboy.
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar
I haven’t played any souls games so no fanboy here. I think the graphics are okay. But just okay. But I don’t really play games for graphics as much as immersion as far as single player games. This game is great from my opinion but that’s just me. I love the challenge and open world.

I’m usually a shooter type as well. I was top 100 leaderboards in a shooter game before and I love PUBG. So I’m not speaking from some pov of a fanboy.
apparently most miscers and majority of reviewers just HAPPEN to be Fromsoftware fanboys. They must have collaborated and all be infiltrating every site and every review... even though fromsoftware "fanboys" are probably like 2% of gamers.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
apparently most miscers and majority of reviewers just HAPPEN to be Fromsoftware fanboys. They must have collaborated and all be infiltrating every site and every review... even though fromsoftware "fanboys" are probably like 2% of gamers.
Well I imagine everyone who wanted to play it has the kind of experience with it to be reviewing it in the first place. It's no surprise how it seems to be pleasing it's intended audience.
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people who think these dark souls games are hardest games ever made, need to buy an NES and beat Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

good luck.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
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I am not sure what that even means, is it a gay insult? LoL. Let's be honest, it's clear you don't really want to read my reply to any of that. And that's fine. I just made a comment on your comment with your post history in mind. It's called discussion, as you say.
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I definitely understand wanting to play games that are more fun and relaxed. I'm that way that's why I never really tried from games (I did buy Sekiro but only barely started it recently).

But I feel bad for anyone missing out because they're too afraid or can't cut it. Some things are worth getting out your comfort zone for
I love challenging games. Very few games I haven't played at the hardest difficulty. To me part of the fun of videogames is that dopamine hit of overcoming a challenge. Hey, to each their own, everyone should do what they enjoy when it comes to their hobbies. But I do think it is somewhat a reflection on society and how we as a whole have gone from a group of hardworking people who get energized at challenges to current day folk who don't push themselves in their personal life, careers, or seemingly anything. Videogames have evolved to cater to our lazy no challnege society.
Originally Posted By CalmWind
people who think these dark souls games are hardest games ever made, need to buy an NES and beat Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

good luck.
Videogames of the past used to be challenging, it's what videogames were. It's odd that the few games that challenge a player at default difficulties are now viewed as oddities.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
people who think these dark souls games are hardest games ever made, need to buy an NES and beat Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

good luck.
Not even the hardest NES game. Try something like Battletoads, Ghosts n Goblins, or Ninja Gaiden.
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Originally Posted By mgftp
I am not sure what that even means, is it a gay insult? LoL. Let's be honest, it's clear you don't really want to read my reply to any of that. And that's fine. I just made a comment on your comment with your post history in mind. It's called discussion, as you say.



I love challenging games. Very few games I haven't played at the hardest difficulty. To me part of the fun of videogames is that dopamine hit of overcoming a challenge. Hey, to each their own, everyone should do what they enjoy when it comes to their hobbies. But I do think it is somewhat a reflection on society and how we as a whole have gone from a group of hardworking people who get energized at challenges to current day folk who don't push themselves in their personal life, careers, or seemingly anything. Videogames have evolved to cater to our lazy no challnege society.



Videogames of the past used to be challenging, it's what videogames were. It's odd that the few games that challenge a player at default difficulties are now viewed as oddities.
It's not discussion, you're just being a ****in dork like usual. Your obsession with me and Jay is just cringe at this point. When's the last time you've gone a single day on this forum without typing me or Jay's name? It's not healthy, you're weird af. I ignore you like 90 percent of the time yet when I'm in a thread you always come in and talk about me/Jay to someone else. Usually we joke about these things but we really are living in your head rent free, it's pretty obvious to everyone on this forum.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
apparently most miscers and majority of reviewers just HAPPEN to be Fromsoftware fanboys. They must have collaborated and all be infiltrating every site and every review... even though fromsoftware "fanboys" are probably like 2% of gamers.
I mean if you think about it, it's not a crazy sentiment. The guys that actually post online about video games other than meme are by and large your more "hardcore" (stupid term) gamers, to whom Fromsoft games tend to appeal to.

You'll find that most reviewers of these games are fans of the games. Games media is kind of a joke nowadays in that sense. You give the games to review to the guy/girl on your staff they enjoys those titles. It boosts the score, scores you points with the game devs for those series and ensures you get review copies of the next title. No, I don't think reviewers are paid to give games 10/10, but there's obvious bias in a large portion of reviews, intentionally. Any ******* can review a game, so devs are going to give games to their allies for reviewing, bonuses for dev teams rely on good reviews.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
people who think these dark souls games are hardest games ever made, need to buy an NES and beat Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

good luck.
i did

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I skeered ,prob fire it up tomm ,ps5 came today

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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
I mean if you think about it, it's not a crazy sentiment. The guys that actually post online about video games other than meme are by and large your more "hardcore" (stupid term) gamers, to whom Fromsoft games tend to appeal to.

You'll find that most reviewers of these games are fans of the games. Games media is kind of a joke nowadays in that sense. You give the games to review to the guy/girl on your staff they enjoys those titles. It boosts the score, scores you points with the game devs for those series and ensures you get review copies of the next title. No, I don't think reviewers are paid to give games 10/10, but there's obvious bias in a large portion of reviews, intentionally. Any ******* can review a game, so devs are going to give games to their allies for reviewing, bonuses for dev teams rely on good reviews.
I kind of get what your saying. But most of these review publications don’t have massive amounts of reviewers to where they will all have a big from software fanboy, and most devs send review codes to the majority of them… like it’s not only certain gaming publications reviewing certain types of games. Most publications will review every major title, even if they don’t receive a code.

And with who reviews, I don’t think it’s like “your the Mario guy”, “you’re the racing sim guy” “your the souls-like guy”, etc. at least in most cases.

I think there is very large overlap and correlation (on the macro level) where most people generally enjoy the games that get rated well. What I mean by that is I think most people would enjoy Mario odyssey and uncharted and forza horizon 5, even though they are all very different types of games.

Anecdotally, I have never made much progress in souls games, but picked up elden ring on a whim. I can absolutely see why it’s reviewed as well as it has.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
I kind of get what your saying. But most of these review publications don’t have massive amounts of reviewers to where they will all have a big from software fanboy, and most devs send review codes to the majority of them… like it’s not only certain gaming publications reviewing certain types of games. Most publications will review every major title, even if they don’t receive a code.

And with who reviews, I don’t think it’s like “your the Mario guy”, “you’re the racing sim guy” “your the souls-like guy”, etc. at least in most cases.

I think there is very large overlap and correlation (on the macro level) where most people generally enjoy the games that get rated well. What I mean by that is I think most people would enjoy Mario odyssey and uncharted and forza horizon 5, even though they are all very different types of games.

Anecdotally, I have never made much progress in souls games, but picked up elden ring on a whim. I can absolutely see why it’s reviewed as well as it has.
Honestly, that's exactly how it works at most gaming sites. I know that from a smaller gaming site that I contribute to from time to time, when it comes to the permanent staffers they all have their obvious interests and they all cover games related to their interests. Like they aren't going to have someone who is really into JRPG's cover the latest action FPS, and I doubt they would want to do that. All the JRPG reviews tend to be covered by the same few people who are really interested in them. Same with all the other genres.

The reason is simple, it takes a lot of time to review a game. Like you can't just casually play a game for a few hours, you really need to get into it, understand the game, thoroughly explore the game, and for the most part play through it. Like I usually covered racing games and there is no way they would want me to cover a JRPG because A: I don't have any interest in them and B: I would probably be chitting all over whatever JRPG they would want me to cover, and they don't pay me enough to cover things that I wouldn't want to play in the first place. It's like that with all the contributors, I know a guy like me who focuses on shoot-em-ups and he's the same way, he's even got a youtube channel where he talks about them and plays them.

Even on the big sites, when you check out the critics they usually have a basic bio where they describe the kind of games they like. The kind of person who would review a game like Elden Ring is someone who is typically into From Software titles, because they would obviously be the person to give that to. You want someone who will have the interest and ability to get through the game, especially if you want your review to be out on time and relate to fans. It seems like most gamers just want fan reviews for the most part anyways, when a journalist stands out from the herd they usually get attacked.
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The IGN reviewer is definitely their “hard games and souls like” guy.


That being said the game is a solid 9. Git gud pghts










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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Honestly, that's exactly how it works at most gaming sites. I know that from a smaller gaming site that I contribute to from time to time, when it comes to the permanent staffers they all have their obvious interests and they all cover games related to their interests. Like they aren't going to have someone who is really into JRPG's cover the latest action FPS, and I doubt they would want to do that. All the JRPG reviews tend to be covered by the same few people who are really interested in them. Same with all the other genres.

The reason is simple, it takes a lot of time to review a game. Like you can't just casually play a game for a few hours, you really need to get into it, understand the game, thoroughly explore the game, and for the most part play through it. Like I usually covered racing games and there is no way they would want me to cover a JRPG because A: I don't have any interest in them and B: I would probably be chitting all over whatever JRPG they would want me to cover, and they don't pay me enough to cover things that I wouldn't want to play in the first place. It's like that with all the contributors, I know a guy like me who focuses on shoot-em-ups and he's the same way, he's even got a youtube channel where he talks about them and plays them.

Even on the big sites, when you check out the critics they usually have a basic bio where they describe the kind of games they like. The kind of person who would review a game like Elden Ring is someone who is typically into From Software titles, because they would obviously be the person to give that to. You want someone who will have the interest and ability to get through the game, especially if you want your review to be out on time and relate to fans. It seems like most gamers just want fan reviews for the most part anyways, when a journalist stands out from the herd they usually get attacked.
Interdasting. The reason I said it was because I was looking earlier at review profiles.

One guy did elden ring, Mario party, nobody saves the world, king of fighters, ghost of sushi expansion

One guy did destiny witch queen, windjammers 2, dying light 2, sable, Zelda skyward sword, Pokémon crown tundra

One did subbautica, age of empires 4, shin Megami tensei 5

Another forbidden west, cod vanguard, Mario golf, disco Elysium

Or Mario odyssey, halo infinite, the ascent, cod black ops, luigis mansion 3

That’s all a pretty big variety. So I’m definitely not saying you are wrong, but it probably depends on publication by publication. And While I’m sure there is definitely overlap between who reviews something and their personal tastes, I don’t think it’s usually to the extent like in my comment (racer guy, sport guy, Nintendo guy)
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
Interdasting. The reason I said it was because I was looking earlier at review profiles.

One guy did elden ring, Mario party, nobody saves the world, king of fighters, ghost of sushi expansion

One guy did destiny witch queen, windjammers 2, dying light 2, sable, Zelda skyward sword, Pokémon crown tundra

One did subbautica, age of empires 4, shin Megami tensei 5

Another forbidden west, cod vanguard, Mario golf, disco Elysium

Or Mario odyssey, halo infinite, the ascent, cod black ops, luigis mansion 3

That’s all a pretty big variety. So I’m definitely not saying you are wrong, but it probably depends on publication by publication. And While I’m sure there is definitely overlap between who reviews something and their personal tastes, I don’t think it’s usually to the extent like in my comment (racer guy, sport guy, Nintendo guy)
Yeah every site is ran differently so I can't comment on them all, just relating my personal experience and telling you how some sites do things.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
It's not discussion, you're just being a ****in dork like usual. Your obsession with me and Jay is just cringe at this point. When's the last time you've gone a single day on this forum without typing me or Jay's name? It's not healthy, you're weird af. I ignore you like 90 percent of the time yet when I'm in a thread you always come in and talk about me/Jay to someone else. Usually we joke about these things but we really are living in your head rent free, it's pretty obvious to everyone on this forum.
You get rustled at the fact I get a laugh out of you and Jay's post history and want it to be something more than miscing and having a laugh, but it's not, sorry.
Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
Interdasting. The reason I said it was because I was looking earlier at review profiles.

One guy did elden ring, Mario party, nobody saves the world, king of fighters, ghost of sushi expansion

One guy did destiny witch queen, windjammers 2, dying light 2, sable, Zelda skyward sword, Pokémon crown tundra

One did subbautica, age of empires 4, shin Megami tensei 5

Another forbidden west, cod vanguard, Mario golf, disco Elysium

Or Mario odyssey, halo infinite, the ascent, cod black ops, luigis mansion 3

That’s all a pretty big variety. So I’m definitely not saying you are wrong, but it probably depends on publication by publication. And While I’m sure there is definitely overlap between who reviews something and their personal tastes, I don’t think it’s usually to the extent like in my comment (racer guy, sport guy, Nintendo guy)
Couldn't be a better example of variety then what you posted.
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Thank you, OP. If I made this thread I'd get negged into oblivion. I don't understand the hype around this game.
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Originally Posted By LearnedManlet
Thank you, OP. If I made this thread I'd get negged into oblivion. I don't understand the hype around this game.
graphics are complete dog chit and I fukking love the environment 10/10

not sure they can do good graphics considering the drawdistances of everything

they're clearly going for a feel versus bling

but its pretty bad
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Originally Posted By LearnedManlet
Thank you, OP. If I made this thread I'd get negged into oblivion. I don't understand the hype around this game.
Now that GT7 is out I already forgot about this game lol, guess it was just a flavor of the week sorta thing among the gaming press.

Souls fans are always really cultish as well. In my experience the more hardcore the fanbase the more aggressive they are when it comes to feedback. Hardcore gamers think only fans should be allowed to voice an opinion.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Now that GT7 is out I already forgot about this game lol, guess it was just a flavor of the week sorta thing among the gaming press.

Souls fans are always really cultish as well. In my experience the more hardcore the fanbase the more aggressive they are when it comes to feedback. Hardcore gamers think only fans should be allowed to voice an opinion.
This is kind of silly. Of course “you forgot about it”, you were never interested in it in the first place and dismissed it last week. And just because you aren’t into it, does not indicate “it was the flavor of the week”.

And I have found that souls fans are generally pretty helpful and friendly too newbies. And the “muh cult” comment makes no sense when you look how irs selling and been received. A “cult” type game is something like no more heroes.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
This is kind of silly. Of course “you forgot about it”, you were never interested in it in the first place and dismissed it last week. And just because you aren’t into it, does not indicate “it was the flavor of the week”.

And I have found that souls fans are generally pretty helpful and friendly too newbies. And the “muh cult” comment makes no sense when you look how irs selling and been received. A “cult” type game is something like no more heroes.
That was mostly just a comment on the fan aggressiveness towards something like this thread, I'm sure the fan community is fine if you're into it. The point of what I said is simply that I have my two cents on this game here in this thread and now that I got something new grabbing my attention I couldn't care less about discussing this any further.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Not even the hardest NES game. Try something like Battletoads, Ghosts n Goblins, or Ninja Gaiden.
All of those were good. Castle Anita the first one was my kryptonite as a youngster. Like the other miscer said ^ they quit making games like that. I for one enjoy the challenge and difficultly.
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar
All of those were good. Castle Anita the first one was my kryptonite as a youngster. Like the other miscer said ^ they quit making games like that. I for one enjoy the challenge and difficultly.
Yeah that's why I still love me some retro gaming, especially when I am in the mood for some classic game genres or something different. Modern gaming does many things well, but when it comes to some genres they were better in the past.
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I don’t have an issue with difficult games.

The way these games go about being “difficult” just looks incredibly dumb.

People are like 50 hours into the game and just beating the first big boss after dying like 276 times. Lmfao at calling that fun.

Just lmfao at playing a game that graphically wouldn’t have impressed anyone in 2012 that looks this god damn boring.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
I don’t have an issue with difficult games.

The way these games go about being “difficult” just looks incredibly dumb.

People are like 50 hours into the game and just beating the first big boss after dying like 276 times. Lmfao at calling that fun.

Just lmfao at playing a game that graphically wouldn’t have impressed anyone in 2012 that looks this god damn boring.
Looks incredibly dumb, because you haven't played it.

Took a while to click for me but when it did, I got hooked. I agree it's not everyone's cup of tea but I assure you many people actually love the gameplay and aren't just faking it to be part of the cult.
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