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post 1658265603 03-20-2022, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
Nope Russia's not that inept. It must be mutiny or other division srs. There must be a reason the felt more prepared. Where are the 150k troops that were on the border? How many invaded? Why does Putin think that's enough since this would make them outnumbered?
these things are hard to answer but what is not hard to answer and quite laughable is to think the people running and in control of russia are a bunch of ****ing incompetent idiots. Now that's ****ing insulting.
post 1658265683 03-20-2022, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By ChadShapox
these things are hard to answer but what is not hard to answer and quite laughable is to think the people running and in control of russia are a bunch of ****ing incompetent idiots. Now that's ****ing insulting.
yeah that's what I don't get. Yes men or not, Putin and his generals have been through proxy wars against the us before.
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Originally Posted By ChadShapox
a ****ing detective we have here. You have a point here or what?
Point would be that there are generally interesting connections to be made between past behavior/post content, timing, and other nuance when looking at people who take hardline and controversial stances in social media like this. And I've often found it helpful to look at the history of people doing that.

Makes it very easy when someone has only a few hundred posts over a decade of membership, and I think we could come up with some pretty compelling speculation based on this username's history.
post 1658265773 03-20-2022, 12:24 PM
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"Was bombing of Mariupol theater staged by Ukrainian Azov extremists to trigger NATO intervention?"

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/18/b...-intervention/
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
Nope Russia's not that inept. It must be mutiny or other division srs. There must be a reason the felt more prepared. Where are the 150k troops that were on the border? How many invaded? Why does Putin think that's enough since this would make them outnumbered?
200+K troops were amassed before the invasion started. According to british and american intel, at least 90% are in ukraine currently.

Russia has a bigger military personnel than 200k, so im assuming troops will be rotated as needed or more will be sent in as needed.

The common strategy seems to be to have an initial invasion force which slightly outnumbers the military of the country you are invading.

From my understanding, you never want to go balls out with all your military for an invasion as it leaves your country vulnerable. The US had an invasion force of 450k for iraq 2003, again slightly outnumbering iraqs military when combined with coalition forces.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
I refuse to believe this with out substantial evidence. If this the best of what Russia has to offer then they're not even close to being a superpower.
Their involvement in the initial assault at Hostomel was reported by the Russian MoD itself by publishing footage.



Report on dead VDV Colonel plus other VDV members

"These are the commander of the unit, Colonel Sergei Sukharev , Senior Sergeant Sergei Lebedev , Sergeant Alexander Limonov , Corporal Yuri Dektyarev .

Captain Aleksey Nikitin died in the line of duty - Kostroma served in one of the military units of Anapa."

UA report claimed his deputy, Major Sergei Krylov was killed as well.

https://gtrk-kostroma.ru/news/komand...yu-na-ukraine/



"The Deputy Commander of the VDV's 11th Air Assault Brigade Lieutenant Colonel Denis Glebov was killed in Ukraine. His funeral was held in Ryazan yesterday. His death was announced on March 2nd."



Russian sources in the tweet, including TASS.

"Georgy Dudorov, deputy commander of a reconnaissance company, died while performing a combat mission. The column of his company came under artillery fire from Ukrainian nationalists. “Having found himself face to face with danger, he honorably fulfilled his military duty to the Fatherland, having received mortal wounds,” the UK said."

https://lenta.ru/news/2022/03/14/dudorov/


Six members of Russian special forces killed




And so on and so on.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Their involvement in the initial assault at Hostomel was reported by the Russian MoD itself by publishing footage.



Report on dead VDV Colonel plus other VDV members

"These are the commander of the unit, Colonel Sergei Sukharev , Senior Sergeant Sergei Lebedev , Sergeant Alexander Limonov , Corporal Yuri Dektyarev .

Captain Aleksey Nikitin died in the line of duty - Kostroma served in one of the military units of Anapa."

UA report claimed his deputy, Major Sergei Krylov was killed as well.

https://gtrk-kostroma.ru/news/komand...yu-na-ukraine/



"The Deputy Commander of the VDV's 11th Air Assault Brigade Lieutenant Colonel Denis Glebov was killed in Ukraine. His funeral was held in Ryazan yesterday. His death was announced on March 2nd."



Russian sources in the tweet, including TASS.

"Georgy Dudorov, deputy commander of a reconnaissance company, died while performing a combat mission. The column of his company came under artillery fire from Ukrainian nationalists. “Having found himself face to face with danger, he honorably fulfilled his military duty to the Fatherland, having received mortal wounds,” the UK said."

https://lenta.ru/news/2022/03/14/dudorov/


Six members of Russian special forces killed




And so on and so on.
By what measure are paratroopers special forces?

They’re trained to jump out of planes lol. Apart from that what distinguishes them from infantry?
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Originally Posted By Destor
Is this the alt of a more regular poster who doesn't want their garbage-tier opinions tied to their main username? There are some strange fukkers on this forum
there's a handful of sub 1000 post accounts in this thread who randomly popped in to do some heavy shilling and trolling after years of being inactive. most are probably multi accounts of those who have been banned more than once before the misc got quarantined.
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Originally Posted By ispy
there's a handful of sub 1000 post accounts in this thread who randomly popped in to do some heavy shilling and trolling after years of being inactive. most are probably multi accounts of those who have been banned more than once before the misc got quarantined.
It’s a major world event, very shocking people want to discuss it right /s
post 1658266313 03-20-2022, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By RhysWirral
By what measure are paratroopers special forces?

They’re trained to jump out of planes lol. Apart from that what distinguishes them from infantry?
The last 6 dudes from the special forces are special forces.


Rest are the airborne VDV, a selection from the top of the volunteers with - allegedly - better training and equipment.
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Originally Posted By ispy
there's a handful of sub 1000 post accounts in this thread who randomly popped in to do some heavy shilling and trolling after years of being inactive. most are probably multi accounts of those who have been banned more than once before the misc got quarantined.
Happens leading up to the election as well. I would have thought I'd see the same accounts from the election threads in here but I haven't.

It's obvious when they are a troll farm or not.
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post 1658266593 03-20-2022, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By RhysWirral
It’s a major world event, very shocking people want to discuss it right /s
Not shocking, hence this thread


When you start looking at the patterns in post history for usernames tied to content like this, it definitely raises an eyebrow or two
post 1658266663 03-20-2022, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor
Point would be that there are generally interesting connections to be made between past behavior/post content, timing, and other nuance when looking at people who take hardline and controversial stances in social media like this. And I've often found it helpful to look at the history of people doing that.

Makes it very easy when someone has only a few hundred posts over a decade of membership, and I think we could come up with some pretty compelling speculation based on this username's history.
you use to many words to say nothing
post 1658266783 03-20-2022, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
Nope Russia's not that inept. It must be mutiny or other division srs. There must be a reason the felt more prepared. Where are the 150k troops that were on the border? How many invaded? Why does Putin think that's enough since this would make them outnumbered?

This war makes them look like COMPLETE imbeciles. I doubt they could coordinate anything, much less rig us elections.
Rigging elections is a stretch, sowing division just for the sake of dividing the population however is definitely not. It's also cheap and easy to do af.


Russian military is hilariously corrupt and ineffective, their tech is old and crappy and they can't even replace their "modern" tech because they lack the necessary funds and parts, especially since the sanctions. If you've been following events, they've repeatedly made "here's our newest Wunderwaffe" announcements with crap like the Armata tank and the Su-57 jet, which was supposed to compete with the US made 5th generation jets. They have maybe ten of each on a good day despite announcing hundreds and thousands of tech.

Then we get the lulzy "badass space marine Russian turboarmor" announcements

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidha...h=7c408aa62cdd

- so a biker helmet with some styrofoam and removed optics, probably sold off to a European/American airsoft player.

Also some meme tier announcements








They simply haven't faced a professional army with somewhat modern equipment so far. Ukrainians have been receiving training and some equipment since 2014, and of course a lot more during recent times. Russians thought they would roll over like they did the last time in 2014 and they could just overwhelm them with numbers etc.
post 1658267003 03-20-2022, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
OH OKAY HERES THE CATCH:

Belarus preparing to invade ukraine

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/uk...tes-03-20-2022

Given Russia's absolute refusal to throw their A team at Ukraine, it seems this was planned from the start.
here's the direct link to that article
https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukrain...irect-invasion

They're massing forces in Brest, Belarus which is in the SW corner close to the Ukraine-Poland border






examples vids and pics and info for present and future reference -

Video of the concentration of the Belarusian army in Brest region. The equipment is marked with red square.
This is where the Ukrainians fear Belarus will first invade from




Large convoy of Belarusian military vehicles heading for Brest near the Polish border.
Worrying signs from Belarus in the past 48 hours.
Fears grow of a RU-BEL invasion of Ukraine along the Polish border to cut off access to western weapons deliveries




Luninets, Brest oblast, #Belarus
[trains]




near Brest, yesterday afternoon.
Belarus is readying its military to go in Ukraine along the Polish border?




Today we’ve wrote about the unloading of a train with equipment in Luninets (Brest region).
Among the equipment were at least two 122-mm self-propelled 2S1 Gvozdika howitzers.
The equipment was moving towards the M10 highway. The rest of the equipment was being unloaded further.




Unloading of a train with military equipment was spotted in Luninets (Brest region).
Some of the cars were started, apparently, they will move on their own wheels. About 10-12 armored personnel carriers were seen during the unloading.




unloaded off trains



The transportation of missiles for S-300 or S-400 missile systems was spotted in Baranavichy (Brest region). At least 8 missiles were transported in 2 Russian KamAZ trucks with “V” marks. The 25th region (Eastern Military District of Russia) was indicated on license plates.



10:35 (Minsk time)
A column of military equipment was spotted near Pinsk, moving along the M-10 highway from Luninets towards Brest. The equipment includes MAZ trucks, a mortar and an armoured reconnaissance vehicle. The vehicles have red square marks on them.



11:00 (Minsk time)
Russian military equipment was spotted between Ivatsevichy and Biaroza (Brest region), moving along the M1 highway towards Minsk. The equipment includes Ural and KamAZ trucks.



14:00 (Minsk time)
A column of military trucks with Belarusian license plates is moving along the M1 highway towards Ivatsevichy (Brest region).




twitter search 'brest'



also

11 employees of the Belarusian embassy left #Ukraine. The last employee crossed the border today at 9 am. This is quite worrying

[Mar19th, yesterday]

Belarusian army has also started wearing red armbands


troops have red armbands and new red paint on vehicles







post 1658267043 03-20-2022, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
Idk you guys left quite a bit of stuff in afghanistan lol.

But that was just bad planning, its not like the US withdrew due to botching military operations.

Desert storm was a month, 3 weeks of air operations and 1 week land invasion. Iraq 2003 the US was pulling down statues of sadam in bahgdad within 3 weeks. Afghanistan was totally controlled in a month, with a few mountain rebel controlled areas remaining.

Russia should have done more in the initial stages of the invasion to neutralize ukraines air force and air defence. Something that most military analysts and western intel thought would be done within 4 days.

Ukraine still has around 50 aircraft of their ~120 they started with.
He’s gonna say “whataboutism” apparently in lib land comparing anything to anything is “whataboutism” unless it supports their narrative

But if it DOES support their narrative, they can compare things like jan6 to the holocaust
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Turkey is talking up progress in peace talks. Crimea and the breakaway republics are the biggest obstacles but I think they are gone for good here. I mean Crimea wasn’t really ever going back was it?
post 1658267423 03-20-2022, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted By RhysWirral
Turkey is talking up progress in peace talks. Crimea and the breakaway republics are the biggest obstacles but I think they are gone for good here. I mean Crimea wasn’t really ever going back was it?
Nah it wasnt. Tbh ukraine should give them the breakaway territories.

From what i know they are and were 90%+ ethnic russian, it doesnt make sense for them to be apart of ukraine is the people dont want to be. Let it go.


Zelenskyy has said he is open to recognizing crimea and both breakaway regions though. Ofc russia wants more than that here however, it seem like they want everhthjng south and east of the river.
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Originally Posted By RhysWirral
Turkey is talking up progress in peace talks. Crimea and the breakaway republics are the biggest obstacles but I think they are gone for good here. I mean Crimea wasn’t really ever going back was it?
Yea Crimea will never return back to Ukraine, Zelensky administration will need to come to terms with that. That wont sit well with some of the military folks in Ukraine tho, it is what it is.
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Shills at full force again, doubling down on the whataboutism, made up talking points and trying to start chit to divert attention.


Hilarious, every single time.
post 1658267523 03-20-2022, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Shills at full force again, doubling down on the whataboutism, made up talking points and trying to start chit to divert attention.


Hilarious, every single time.
who gives a **** aout you bruh no one
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Originally Posted By ChadShapox
who gives a **** aout you bruh no one
Most misc regulars already caught air of him, chalupa and terrorgumt of being paid shills.

Minimum wage workers paid by the west to spread propaganda online
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Originally Posted By ChadShapox
who gives a **** aout you bruh no one
Apparently msnbc has taught the masses about “whataboutism”

The newest deflection tool
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
From what i know they are and were 90%+ ethnic russian, it doesnt make sense for them to be apart of ukraine is the people dont want to be. Let it go.

People had a long time to leave Crimea, it's been a chit place to live for anyone in the last 8 years.
Crimea is totally a natural gas play, the same would happen to any other part of Ukraine near the borders which had gas deposits.
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Originally Posted By PISTELERO
Apparently msnbc has taught the masses about “whataboutism”

The newest deflection tool
It's called staying on topic.

If somebody wants to argue Vietnam or Afghanistan they can make a new thread or get in a time machine. Unless it's relevant to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, these whataboutisms are useless distractions.
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Russian VDV vs. Ukrainian elevator. Fuking ded.


https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...y_residential/
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Russian VDV vs. Ukrainian elevator. Fuking ded.


https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...y_residential/
alright give up russia sucks ass they children you win brother all the best
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Russian VDV vs. Ukrainian elevator. Fuking ded.


https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...y_residential/
What's supposed to be happening here?
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Originally Posted By Beast92
Most misc regulars already caught air of him, chalupa and terrorgumt of being paid shills.

Minimum wage workers paid by the west to spread propaganda online
Lives in Mexico, talks about “minimum wage” fukking LOL.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Russians thought they would roll over like they did the last time in 2014 and they could just overwhelm them with numbers etc.
Legit LOLed at videos, nice 1.

Overwhelm them by sending cca 130.000 troops to fight 250.000 ukr army? Hmmm ok.

Some updates on today.

COD Harrier Strike unlocked - Attack on Uks
https://t.me/romanov_92/5193

Footage of the defeat: Stepnoe is littered with equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed by Russian troops
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/4415
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/4407
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/4402

Abandoned corpses of Ukrainian soldiers in Stepnoe.
https://t.me/intelslava/23006

Now, imagine reddit today if they had this same materials. They'd be in Moscow already, and chalup would call out everyone who wasn't pro nazi.

Big news
https://t.me/intelslava/23015
During the liberation of Mariupol, the Deputy Commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Captain 1st Rank Andrei Paly, died in battle.His death was confirmed by the former Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy Vladimir Masorin.
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