Thread: White cop shoots black dude
04-15-2022, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
“Why didn’t he just flying arm bar him?” Is the new, “why didn’t he just shoot the gun out of his hand?”Cops seriously need more training. The average Joe is obese, it shouldn't be hard to take one down. What happened to bjj or judo training?
It wasn't worth shooting him in head. Let him go and call back up, pretty simple thing to do.
It wasn't worth shooting him in head. Let him go and call back up, pretty simple thing to do.
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seems reasonable
hurr durr cops kill black people
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hurr durr cops kill black people
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04-15-2022, 05:07 AM
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didnt the cop utter the N word as he approached the jogger?
Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
What kind of weirdo talks like this? LMFAOOOI don't think it was a good shoot. Definitely not the worst shoot either.
04-15-2022, 05:51 AM
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Criminals should be allowed to resist, fight and grab at police weaponry without any fear of consequences!!!!!!!!
04-15-2022, 06:13 AM
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04-15-2022, 06:31 AM
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wait a minute, I thought a Taser was a LTL weapon??
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04-15-2022, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted By ye193x⏩
Once again, if only someone like you joined the force to show us how its done....Why are american cops so incompetent? Srsly? Struggling to contain unarmed fat manlet, rear neck chock would've put him to sleep in seconds and all of this could've been avoided.
And chokeholds? What could go wrong with a chokehold?
04-15-2022, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
A vicious cycle - no father figure/respectful role model, media telling them to fear cops, culture telling them FUK THE PO PO.well its like 95% of black people have a problem following police orders.no idea if its a genetic thing
and yeh, genetically more likely to show aggression doesn't help
04-15-2022, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
You should see how they act at a hospital. They have this mentality if they're really loud, and act like children the doctor will see them quicker.well its like 95% of black people have a problem following police orders.no idea if its a genetic thing
04-15-2022, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted By PAU1⏩
It should be expected to know how to grapple and thus have more in your arsenal of non lethal interventions...Strong oblivion npc vibes at the beginning of the stop
“Why didn’t he just flying arm bar him?” Is the new, “why didn’t he just shoot the gun out of his hand?”
“Why didn’t he just flying arm bar him?” Is the new, “why didn’t he just shoot the gun out of his hand?”
We were not expected to know how to grapple fight or wrestle but you finally learn cause once the rank patch goes off you in da hood
04-15-2022, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
What people don't understand is there are times where it takes 4-5 of us to subdue someone. These miscers on the other hand belive that somehow, it should be easy to subdue someone by yourself.I’m a believer that cops need better training in general. I also believe there should be stricter health and fitness requirements.
However, I haven’t been able to figure out how someone with bjj skills can avoid being shot with their own weapon?
Can someone explain how you’re supposed to engage and neutralize a suspect with grappling techniques without them grabbing your gun? Not sure if many people have done bjj but your hands are usually busy and it seems unreasonable to expect someone to use those techniques while the other person can easily grab a weapon off your person.
However, I haven’t been able to figure out how someone with bjj skills can avoid being shot with their own weapon?
Can someone explain how you’re supposed to engage and neutralize a suspect with grappling techniques without them grabbing your gun? Not sure if many people have done bjj but your hands are usually busy and it seems unreasonable to expect someone to use those techniques while the other person can easily grab a weapon off your person.
04-15-2022, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Top control. Side control. Its certainly dangerous but what else you gonna do?I’m a believer that cops need better training in general. I also believe there should be stricter health and fitness requirements.
However, I haven’t been able to figure out how someone with bjj skills can avoid being shot with their own weapon?
Can someone explain how you’re supposed to engage and neutralize a suspect with grappling techniques without them grabbing your gun? Not sure if many people have done bjj but your hands are usually busy and it seems unreasonable to expect someone to use those techniques while the other person can easily grab a weapon off your person.
However, I haven’t been able to figure out how someone with bjj skills can avoid being shot with their own weapon?
Can someone explain how you’re supposed to engage and neutralize a suspect with grappling techniques without them grabbing your gun? Not sure if many people have done bjj but your hands are usually busy and it seems unreasonable to expect someone to use those techniques while the other person can easily grab a weapon off your person.
He should of had backup and proper de escalation techniques. Sad to see
04-15-2022, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
As was the case with floyd. 3 cops couldn't even get him in the back of the squad car.... which is why he ended up on the ground. He literally was in the car, he wormed his way out of the car onto the ground while saying "can I be on the ground"What people don't understand is there are times where it takes 4-5 of us to subdue someone. These miscers on the other hand belive that somehow, it should be easy to subdue someone by yourself.
but yeah it's the cops fault somehow.
04-15-2022, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Cops don’t need a whole lot. One of the officers at our gym does seminars every once I awhile for police specifically. Midwest has some great police bjj program/groups too.I’m a believer that cops need better training in general. I also believe there should be stricter health and fitness requirements.
However, I haven’t been able to figure out how someone with bjj skills can avoid being shot with their own weapon?
Can someone explain how you’re supposed to engage and neutralize a suspect with grappling techniques without them grabbing your gun? Not sure if many people have done bjj but your hands are usually busy and it seems unreasonable to expect someone to use those techniques while the other person can easily grab a weapon off your person.
However, I haven’t been able to figure out how someone with bjj skills can avoid being shot with their own weapon?
Can someone explain how you’re supposed to engage and neutralize a suspect with grappling techniques without them grabbing your gun? Not sure if many people have done bjj but your hands are usually busy and it seems unreasonable to expect someone to use those techniques while the other person can easily grab a weapon off your person.
They need about 3 months, 3days a week to get the most out of it. 1 stripe white belt at best. No need to even go to blue. And we actually get a fair amount of cops that come in just for those few months.
Arm drags, kimura grips, side control, few trip take down like osoto-gari, scarf holds, etc..
You quickly learn how to make someone’s arms stop moving and how to pressure them into a “stuck” position. Once grips are developed if you don’t want to advance position can just sit there. I could probably hold someone who outweighed me by like 25% In a scarf hold for hours if I wanted too.
Although I guess we shouldn’t tell them knee on neck is a legal move for us still.
04-15-2022, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted By demfeelsbro⏩
Yeah when youre in your early teens..... but imagine a grown up , not knowing right from wrong.A vicious cycle - no father figure/respectful role model, media telling them to fear cops, culture telling them FUK THE PO PO.
and yeh, genetically more likely to show aggression doesn't help
and yeh, genetically more likely to show aggression doesn't help
Alot of black people feel they are entitled to everything for what their ancestors went through 500 years ago ...... while in reality the majority are bums, youll see a 6"6 fat fukc sitting home or at the corner of the street smoking a joint with other fails in life like him rather then having a decent hard working job.
How they are raised plays a huge role but they also have a genetic predisposition of violence,stupidity and lack of logic .
Some of them are really good, trust worthy but the majority , men and women are just meh
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
yah, its sad manYou should see how they act at a hospital. They have this mentality if they're really loud, and act like children the doctor will see them quicker.
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04-15-2022, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
All while keeping in mind that his buddy is in the car a few feet away, who can be armed, or who might try come and interfere.Let’s roll together. You wear a side arm and I will role play like I have nothing to lose.
You gain top control. Congrats, now you have to keep my sweaty, slippery hands from reaching for your side arm. You’ll need both hands to do this, so good luck calling for backup or even grabbing a set of zips to bind my hands. How long do you suppose you’ll last before giving up? I have nothing to lose, so I won’t be giving up.
Same goes for side control, chokes, etc.
Oh by the way I don’t speak English very well, so good luck with trying to deescalate.
I recognize the point you trying to make, and it’s likely coming from a genuinely good thought process, however it’s just not practical.
Armchair quarterback is the easiest position in the NFL.
You gain top control. Congrats, now you have to keep my sweaty, slippery hands from reaching for your side arm. You’ll need both hands to do this, so good luck calling for backup or even grabbing a set of zips to bind my hands. How long do you suppose you’ll last before giving up? I have nothing to lose, so I won’t be giving up.
Same goes for side control, chokes, etc.
Oh by the way I don’t speak English very well, so good luck with trying to deescalate.
I recognize the point you trying to make, and it’s likely coming from a genuinely good thought process, however it’s just not practical.
Armchair quarterback is the easiest position in the NFL.
As we saw in the Floyd case, the courts and witnesses don't think like what you wrote. Wonder whatever happened with the other cops in that case.
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Well with a scarf hold your one arm is jammed into the ground and your other arm is immobilized behind your head. The whole point is you can’t move your arms at all and are being pinned from your shoulders.Let’s roll together. You wear a side arm and I will role play like I have nothing to lose.
You gain top control. Congrats, now you have to keep my sweaty, slippery hands from reaching for your side arm. You’ll need both hands to do this, so good luck calling for backup or even grabbing a set of zips to bind my hands. How long do you suppose you’ll last before giving up? I have nothing to lose, so I won’t be giving up.
Same goes for side control, chokes, etc.
Oh by the way I don’t speak English very well, so good luck with trying to deescalate.
I recognize the point you trying to make, and it’s likely coming from a genuinely good thought process, however it’s just not practical.
Armchair quarterback is the easiest position in the NFL.
You gain top control. Congrats, now you have to keep my sweaty, slippery hands from reaching for your side arm. You’ll need both hands to do this, so good luck calling for backup or even grabbing a set of zips to bind my hands. How long do you suppose you’ll last before giving up? I have nothing to lose, so I won’t be giving up.
Same goes for side control, chokes, etc.
Oh by the way I don’t speak English very well, so good luck with trying to deescalate.
I recognize the point you trying to make, and it’s likely coming from a genuinely good thought process, however it’s just not practical.
Armchair quarterback is the easiest position in the NFL.
I agree it’s not a perfect solution but it’s much better then some of the dumb chit that I see.
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Everyone protesting this kinda chit needs to volunteer for these scenarios and see what happens
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I don’t think people realize what it’s like (myself included) to suit up daily knowing there’s a chance you aren’t gonna make it home.
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04-15-2022, 09:01 AM
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a lot of larpers here act like BJJ is foolproof, but it is easy to make mistakes, and sometimes the suspect can be stronger or weigh more than you or pull out a knife. also hard to grapple when you're wearing more gear, and you risk getting your own weapon pulled on you. also not easy to learn
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Originally Posted By Skirrel⏩
Why do you look like a Thai trannie.a lot of larpers here act like BJJ is foolproof, but it is easy to make mistakes, and sometimes the suspect can be stronger or weigh more than you or pull out a knife. also hard to grapple when you're wearing more gear, and you risk getting your own weapon pulled on you. also not easy to learn
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Lol this is ridiculously potato. Here is what you do:Let’s roll together. You wear a side arm and I will role play like I have nothing to lose.
You gain top control. Congrats, now you have to keep my sweaty, slippery hands from reaching for your side arm. You’ll need both hands to do this, so good luck calling for backup or even grabbing a set of zips to bind my hands. How long do you suppose you’ll last before giving up? I have nothing to lose, so I won’t be giving up.
Same goes for side control, chokes, etc.
Oh by the way I don’t speak English very well, so good luck with trying to deescalate.
I recognize the point you trying to make, and it’s likely coming from a genuinely good thought process, however it’s just not practical.
Armchair quarterback is the easiest position in the NFL.
You gain top control. Congrats, now you have to keep my sweaty, slippery hands from reaching for your side arm. You’ll need both hands to do this, so good luck calling for backup or even grabbing a set of zips to bind my hands. How long do you suppose you’ll last before giving up? I have nothing to lose, so I won’t be giving up.
Same goes for side control, chokes, etc.
Oh by the way I don’t speak English very well, so good luck with trying to deescalate.
I recognize the point you trying to make, and it’s likely coming from a genuinely good thought process, however it’s just not practical.
Armchair quarterback is the easiest position in the NFL.
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- shoot grappling gun at citizens hand to restrain him while he is on the ground
- using meditation techniques to calm citizen down and de escalate situation
- ask citizen a series of questions designed to rehabilitate his mental health
- release citizen
- citizen becomes a time-traveling astronaut engineer
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Originally Posted By Skirrel⏩
There are rules and an honor system in bjj (all martial arts). There is none of that in a life and death struggle.a lot of larpers here act like BJJ is foolproof, but it is easy to make mistakes, and sometimes the suspect can be stronger or weigh more than you or pull out a knife. also hard to grapple when you're wearing more gear, and you risk getting your own weapon pulled on you. also not easy to learn
A lot of these people that will be saying the cop should have done xyz will also tell you that you need to be a biologist to do something as simple and intuitive as define a woman.
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