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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
We should start writing letters to our local elected officials to put up bike paths
good luck. we have a stupid fuk senator here who literally campaigns and has commmercials about widening the i-10..... Biden's infrastructure plan involves building and repairing roads and bridges.... FOR CARS.

yeah because wider roads solves traffic problems. lmao.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
My point is that exercising as a necessity of life (cycling, walking) is completely different than allocating free time toward "exercise".

For people like us, gyming is fun. For 95% of the population, it is not.

but 95% of the population DOES drive 1 mile to buy groceries, and that is absolutely insane.

I think the only reason we do that in america, is because our infrastructure sucks dick for walking/cycling. You walk along a sidewalk with a 45mph speed limit and feel like you will die at any minute. If ped paths were seperate, or at least had railings to seperate the cars from the pedestrians, people would actually use them.

Now imagine if that infrastructure went to the extreme of the netherlands, where riding a bike was faster than driving.... Now you get almost a 100% participation rate from your population BY DEFAULT.

telling people to take their free hour in the afternoon to hit the gym is not going to work.
Cities like Utrecht were built with biking in mind, and to do that in say...Detroit, would be damn near impossible both logistically and financially. I do understand what you're saying, but we need to start somewhere and a father of 3 paying 5-600 dollars a month to insure his family might start hitting the gym if he knows he can recoup some of that cash. Then it becomes habit forming, and he instills those values into his family. They start walking after dinner. He encourages his wife to buy healthier foods, and there's a cultural shift in the home. Other than that I agree with you.
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post 1660346293 04-27-2022, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
Cities like Utrecht were built with biking in mind, and to do that in say...Detroit, would be damn near impossible both logistically and financially. I do understand what you're saying, but we need to start somewhere and a father of 3 paying 5-600 dollars a month to insure his family might start hitting the gym if he knows he can recoup some of that cash. Then it becomes habit forming, and he instills those values into his family. They start walking after dinner. He encourages his wife to buy healthier foods, and there's a cultural shift in the home. Other than that I agree with you.
Was just in Utrecht a few weeks ago. Beautiful place. And yeah good luck getting Detroit to bike. You'd have to worry about being mugged or hit with a stray bullet on top of the usual infrastructure stuff.
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
Nothing will work until there's a revolution of the mind. We need to return to logic and common sense over fantasy and emotions

When society is allowed to admit that being fat is disgusting and unhealthy again, we can start to address the issues which are diet and exercise
This. It really starts from politics and most politicians don't care. You're on your own to lose weight and a lot of Americans don't have the will power.
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Originally Posted By sfgiants13⏩
Was just in Utrecht a few weeks ago. Beautiful place. And yeah good luck getting Detroit to bike. You'd have to worry about being mugged or hit with a stray bullet on top of the usual infrastructure stuff.
I'm more concerned with how chitty the drivers are than getting mugged or shot. The drivers here are absolutely the worst. Aloof, reckless, can't deal with changing conditions. Someones getting mowed down for sure.
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post 1660346583 04-27-2022, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
Cities like Utrecht were built with biking in mind, and to do that in say...Detroit, would be damn near impossible both logistically and financially. I do understand what you're saying, but we need to start somewhere and a father of 3 paying 5-600 dollars a month to insure his family might start hitting the gym if he knows he can recoup some of that cash. Then it becomes habit forming, and he instills those values into his family. They start walking after dinner. He encourages his wife to buy healthier foods, and there's a cultural shift in the home. Other than that I agree with you.
while this is true, cities in the netherlands have been REMOVING car areas and REPLACING them with pedestrian areas. entire streets, and parking areas have banned cars, thus allowing people to navigate the areas without cars. Every city in the USA could move this same way. los angeles is a literal laughing stock of traffic... it never even crosses their mind that taking a bike would be exponentially faster, and they have FLAWLESS weather year-round LMAO.... absolutely pissening.

also, michigan has started doing rail to trail systems, which is a respectable START to solving the problems of too many cars.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
you will adapt, srs.

amsterdam is COLD af in the winter, but their population isn't a bunch of fat pussies so they just deal with it.

literally thousands of bikes line the streets on a snowy day.

I don't mind the cold at all. But humidity has me sweating hard mane. If everything was in close proximately I guess a 10 minute right wouldn't hurt.
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Biden is already doing it by burning down food plants
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Why even entertain this idea? Jfl if you think the government wants you healthy srs
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post 1660346843 04-27-2022, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
I don't mind the cold at all. But humidity has me sweating hard mane. If everything was in close proximately I guess a 10 minute right wouldn't hurt.
if the infrastructure was correct, and you had an e-bike to ride, it would not be a problem.... I'd argue that getting into a hot ass car that has been sitting in the sun would be worse.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
My point is that exercising as a necessity of life (cycling, walking) is completely different than allocating free time toward "exercise".

For people like us, gyming is fun. For 95% of the population, it is not.

telling people to take their free hour in the afternoon to hit the gym is not going to work.
im going to add to this, that often times that "one hour" is completely insufficient to evoke weight loss. The number of calories someone will burn from an hour of gaming is mind glowingly low. Its something like 300 above expected energy expenditure. Obviously this number will vary depending upon the intensity used and type of exercise done, but how many people are going to do go to the gym 5 days a week to lose what amounts to less than a half pound of fat loss per week assuming they dont alter their diet

now the other issue with American obesity is that outside the metropolitan areas like NY and LA, the population density doesnt allow for this kind of infrastructure, Unlike the European countries with very high population densities.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
It's the American lifestyle really. All people do is eat out at restaurants and hit the bar after work. And You're looked at as weird for eating healthy. My office just got bacon covered donuts and I'm resisting
My work has been using food to make people want to come into the office. Donuts, ice cream, cookies, pizza days, free food from the cafeteria on Fridays. It's f'ing ridiculous. As if everyone didn't get fat enough during the pandemic.
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Originally Posted By Legz422⏩
My work has been using food to make people want to come into the office. Donuts, ice cream, cookies, pizza days, free food from the cafeteria on Fridays. It's f'ing ridiculous. As if everyone didn't get fat enough during the pandemic.
Can confirm this works though. Used to make it a point to work at a specific office when I knew they would have left over pizza or free food after big meetings. This was even before Covid.
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
im going to add to this, that often times that "one hour" is completely insufficient to evoke weight loss. The number of calories someone will burn from an hour of gaming is mind glowingly low. Its something like 300 above expected energy expenditure. Obviously this number will vary depending upon the intensity used and type of exercise done, but how many people are going to do go to the gym 5 days a week to lose what amounts to less than a half pound of fat loss per week assuming they dont alter their diet
agreed 10000%
now the other issue with American obesity is that outside the metropolitan areas like NY and LA, the population density doesnt allow for this kind of infrastructure, Unlike the European countries with very high population densities.
EDIT: sorry misread that at first. suburbs CAN accommodate bike infrastructure now more than ever due to E-bikes. I really think the e-bike has potential to change our lives and motivate better pedestrian infrastructure....

imagine raising a child in a pedestrian friendly country..... it would be fuking incredible.
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We should also push VR Gaming. VR gaming is way more fun than running on the treadmill for hours at a time.

Really though, people are just tired of the 9 to 5. Your mind is exhausted after staring at a computer screen for so long, it's no wonder people just want to drink and at the bars afterwards. It's the closest thing to relief.
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It's like turning around the life of a homeless bum. They need to want it that bad and the chances are that most are far too gone.

Same thing with weight, noting the American averages of: 65% overweight & 30% obese. Game over for most of them.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
while this is true, cities in the netherlands have been REMOVING car areas and REPLACING them with pedestrian areas. entire streets, and parking areas have banned cars, thus allowing people to navigate the areas without cars. Every city in the USA could move this same way. los angeles is a literal laughing stock of traffic... it never even crosses their mind that taking a bike would be exponentially faster, and they have FLAWLESS weather year-round LMAO.... absolutely pissening.

also, michigan has started doing rail to trail systems, which is a respectable START to solving the problems of too many cars.
we should have been moving into a mass transit model decades ago, but the auto industry cuckery kept that from happening. Places with warm/warmer climates should have transitioned over to pedestrian areas a long time ago. One city that missed the ball was Atlanta. They've developed so much in the last 30 years, and have the absolute worst fuking traffic.
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its over ...........only thing you can do is try and save the under 12s from their parents by classifying fat kids as child abuse
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
we should have been moving into a mass transit model decades ago, but the auto industry cuckery kept that from happening. Places with warm/warmer climates should have transitioned over to pedestrian areas a long time ago. One city that missed the ball was Atlanta. They've developed so much in the last 30 years, and have the absolute worst fuking traffic.
I'm always going to point at L.A. because it's literally the biggest chithole city on earth and it should be a glowing pedestrian utopia of sun, beaches, walking, cycling, and 70 degrees all year round....

the los angeles forecast this week is highs of 67-77, and lows of 52-56 all week, sun every day... and fat ass motherfukers are sitting in hours upon hours of traffic.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I'm always going to point at L.A. because it's literally the biggest chithole city on earth and it should be a glowing pedestrian utopia of sun, beaches, walking, cycling, and 70 degrees all year round....
Just imagine being able to see downtown LA from the Hills without all that f'ing smog.
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Most peoples diets consist of drinking calories and pre packaged foods.

They know better but refuse to change when its easily right in front of them and fresh real foods are readily available and cheap.

They real problem started when it somehow became a sin for women to know how to cook and care for a family.

These things simply wont get any better. On the bright side, you just have to be normal size to be considered in shape.
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
It's a start I guess.

I think there needs to be better education but then again I remember in High School not caring lol

There needs to be commercials/ads to eat apples and bananas and broccoli and to work out

Schools need better PE programs.

Participating in sports should be a requirement in education curriculum.
better education is def a big part. The average person is clueless when it comes to eating a balanced diet.
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Originally Posted By Rylol⏩
It's like turning around the life of a homeless bum. They need to want it that bad and the chances are that most are far too gone.

Same thing with weight, noting the American averages of: 65% overweight & 30% obese. Game over for most of them.
sad but kinda true.
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its over ...........only thing you can do is try and save the under 12s from their parents by classifying fat kids as child abuse
agreed, and pedestrian infrastructure would essentially solve childhood obesity.

the average child in the Netherlands rides a bicycle 100 miles per month, and that is mainly just commuting to school. That's probably about 12-15 hours of cycling per month. And the kid learns how to navigate their city, etc.
Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
Just imagine being able to see downtown LA from the Hills without all that f'ing smog.
and the lack of noise.... Like I said, what we have today are CHITHOLE cities that have the potential to be absolutely incredible. If los angeles was a pedestrian-centric city, I would actually WANT to raise a family there. LA would transform from "wow, never even going to pass through that chit hole" to "wow, I'd raise a family there."
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
sad but kinda true.



agreed, and pedestrian infrastructure would essentially solve childhood obesity.

the average child in the Netherlands rides a bicycle 100 miles per month, and that is mainly just commuting to school. That's probably about 12-15 hours of cycling per month. And the kid learns how to navigate their city, etc.



and the lack of noise.... Like I said, what we have today are CHITHOLE cities that have the potential to be absolutely incredible. If los angeles was a pedestrian-centric city, I would actually WANT to raise a family there. LA would transform from "wow, never even going to pass through that chit hole" to "wow, I'd raise a family there."
LA where everyone is on a bike, kids and teens on bikes, sound like the GOAT place to be.
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