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Originally Posted By EasyPassive⏩
Years ago I read something that was eye-opening. Not saying having a home doesn't have benefits for most people.lol just LMAOOOOOOOOO at homecels,
Especially those that bought in the last 3 years LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O O O O O O O O O O
Imagine, just IMAGINE thinking a home is an investment LOLLLLLLLLMAMAMAMAMAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOOOOOOOOOO OO
Imagine not understanding opportunity cost LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Imagine being completely locked in a mortgage in this economy LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
COPE INCOMING LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Especially those that bought in the last 3 years LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O O O O O O O O O O
Imagine, just IMAGINE thinking a home is an investment LOLLLLLLLLMAMAMAMAMAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOOOOOOOOOO OO
Imagine not understanding opportunity cost LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Imagine being completely locked in a mortgage in this economy LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
COPE INCOMING LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
But I read that highest percentage of renters are the very poor...and the very rich. Cuz rich people can better returns on their money elsewhere.
obvs not always true as some markets tend to stay hot NYC SF.
04-28-2022, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By andrepmeet⏩
100%Years ago I read something that was eye-opening. Not saying having a home doesn't have benefits for most people.
But I read that highest percentage of renters are the very poor...and the very rich. Cuz rich people can better returns on their money elsewhere.
obvs not always true as some markets tend to stay hot NYC SF.
But I read that highest percentage of renters are the very poor...and the very rich. Cuz rich people can better returns on their money elsewhere.
obvs not always true as some markets tend to stay hot NYC SF.
I agree most renters are brokecels,
But some are really smart and understands a home is NOT an investment, and these people are much richer than homecels
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Fuark, if it only crashes 15% I'll only be able to sell for a small profit after paying RE agent.Obviously no 30% crash is coming. Even in 2008 nationally prices dropped ~15% and we're nowhere near that repeat. No NINJA loans these days. I think it will be back to the normalcy of it depends where you live. If prices flatlining or even going down a little freaks someone out, they probably sell every time the stock market has a few bad days.
I think you guys spouting stuff about how buyers are in debt up to their eyeballs overestimate the payments on a mortgage when rates are in the 2.8% range. A $500,000 mortgage at that rate is only $2,054/month, of course taxes and insurance add on to that but if you bought somewhere that isn't a tax prison (in my state, for example) your taxes and insurance will only add like $300 to that. $2,354 a month for housing is affordable easily on a household income of $100k, and the median home sold for like $350k last year so take that for what its worth.
04-28-2022, 02:42 PM
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I could probably whip up a decent covid vax thread if you've been missing them.Remember back when certain miscers used to make endless threads about things like hair/height/incel chit? The daily rentcel threads have basically replaced them all at this point.
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04-28-2022, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By EasyPassive⏩
Hnnnng bought my house end of 2018, for $615k, appraised for 1.4m couple months ago.lol just LMAOOOOOOOOO at homecels,
Especially those that bought in the last 3 years LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O O O O O O O O O O
Imagine, just IMAGINE thinking a home is an investment LOLLLLLLLLMAMAMAMAMAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOOOOOOOOOO OO
Imagine not understanding opportunity cost LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Imagine being completely locked in a mortgage in this economy LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
COPE INCOMING LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Especially those that bought in the last 3 years LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O O O O O O O O O O
Imagine, just IMAGINE thinking a home is an investment LOLLLLLLLLMAMAMAMAMAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOOOOOOOOOO OO
Imagine not understanding opportunity cost LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Imagine being completely locked in a mortgage in this economy LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
COPE INCOMING LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HNNNNNNNNNNG COPEEEEEEE WHATEVER WILL I DO
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
We had a lot of investment buyers with the lower interest rates coming through our funnel. To the point we had to alter our software to better service what had previously been an edge case. That number has dropped off.You're missing the difference here.
Interest rates don't really matter to people buying investment properties.
If rates skyrocket, that's just going to make it harder for your tenants to ever consider anything besides renting.
Beyond that, hardly anyone has adjustable rate loans anymore.
This market will definitely cool off and correct at some point, but it's not going to be a collapse. There's nothing to feed the spiral. People aren't going to randomly foreclose on their homes when their payments stayed the same.
Interest rates don't really matter to people buying investment properties.
If rates skyrocket, that's just going to make it harder for your tenants to ever consider anything besides renting.
Beyond that, hardly anyone has adjustable rate loans anymore.
This market will definitely cool off and correct at some point, but it's not going to be a collapse. There's nothing to feed the spiral. People aren't going to randomly foreclose on their homes when their payments stayed the same.
04-28-2022, 03:06 PM
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House across the street from me just sold at 100k over prices 2 years ago. When it went up on the market everyone laughed because rates were now at 5.2% + and the asking price was absurd.
Literally within 2 days I watched like 20 people come and go, and that was just about 2 hours after work, It was contingent, then back on the market, then the next day sold.
This is in IL too so I'm still not seeing any sort of housing crisis on the horizon here. Even with all of these "indicators."
I noticed something too when watching the people going to the house. They were all younger couples going with their families. You know what that means? Parents are putting the down payment down or helping their kids to get a house because of the prices.
Literally within 2 days I watched like 20 people come and go, and that was just about 2 hours after work, It was contingent, then back on the market, then the next day sold.
This is in IL too so I'm still not seeing any sort of housing crisis on the horizon here. Even with all of these "indicators."
I noticed something too when watching the people going to the house. They were all younger couples going with their families. You know what that means? Parents are putting the down payment down or helping their kids to get a house because of the prices.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
It does?I noticed something too when watching the people going to the house. They were all younger couples going with their families. You know what that means? Parents are putting the down payment down or helping their kids to get a house because of the prices.
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It's stupid. Just sold my rental house and walked away with $162K
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Interesting. i was always told "Even a blind squirrel will get lucky and find a nut" I wonder if depending on where you live, the animal in the saying is slightly altered.Is this like the March 2022 crash that OP predicted?
Here's the thing with "predicting crashes" all the time -eventually the blind chicken finds a worm too.
Here's the thing with "predicting crashes" all the time -eventually the blind chicken finds a worm too.

04-28-2022, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
Yes. My mother is in commercial property, but talks to a lot of people obviously, and I guess this is the new thing now. I brought it up after seeing so many parents with these young couples at the house and she said that a lot of people are helping their kids with the down payments of their houses now.It does?
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04-28-2022, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
I've read that you should estimate 3% of your home value in operating costs every year above the mortgage payment. So that's things like taxes, utilities, maintenance, plumber visits etc, appliances, expensive stuff that you might need every ten years like a new roof, furnace, etc. Even taking care of the lawn costs a bit annually. So your $500k home has a 2k mortgage plus about 1.5k a month in other overhead (obviously spread over time).Fuark, if it only crashes 15% I'll only be able to sell for a small profit after paying RE agent.
I think you guys spouting stuff about how buyers are in debt up to their eyeballs overestimate the payments on a mortgage when rates are in the 2.8% range. A $500,000 mortgage at that rate is only $2,054/month, of course taxes and insurance add on to that but if you bought somewhere that isn't a tax prison (in my state, for example) your taxes and insurance will only add like $300 to that. $2,354 a month for housing is affordable easily on a household income of $100k, and the median home sold for like $350k last year so take that for what its worth.
I think you guys spouting stuff about how buyers are in debt up to their eyeballs overestimate the payments on a mortgage when rates are in the 2.8% range. A $500,000 mortgage at that rate is only $2,054/month, of course taxes and insurance add on to that but if you bought somewhere that isn't a tax prison (in my state, for example) your taxes and insurance will only add like $300 to that. $2,354 a month for housing is affordable easily on a household income of $100k, and the median home sold for like $350k last year so take that for what its worth.
One trap home owners fall into all the time is thinking that it's just the mortgage payment. Renters don't pay for most of that stuff (usually utilities and that's it) and landlords can only charge what the market will bear, so it's not like they can recoup losses all the time by charging more to the next guy.
Rentals in my city are currently MUCH lower than if you bought the same place, especially when you consider people are overbidding like crazy and already house poor when they start out. So many house poor people coming into play once interest rates go up a couple of more points.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
Lol at thinking renters don't pay for maintenance costs.I've read that you should estimate 3% of your home value in operating costs every year above the mortgage payment. So that's things like taxes, utilities, maintenance, plumber visits etc, appliances, expensive stuff that you might need every ten years like a new roof, furnace, etc. Even taking care of the lawn costs a bit annually. So your $500k home has a 2k mortgage plus about 1.5k a month in other overhead (obviously spread over time).
One trap home owners fall into all the time is thinking that it's just the mortgage payment. Renters don't pay for most of that stuff (usually utilities and that's it) and landlords can only charge what the market will bear, so it's not like they can recoup losses all the time by charging more to the next guy.
Rentals in my city are currently MUCH lower than if you bought the same place, especially when you consider people are overbidding like crazy and already house poor when they start out. So many house poor people coming into play once interest rates go up a couple of more points.
One trap home owners fall into all the time is thinking that it's just the mortgage payment. Renters don't pay for most of that stuff (usually utilities and that's it) and landlords can only charge what the market will bear, so it's not like they can recoup losses all the time by charging more to the next guy.
Rentals in my city are currently MUCH lower than if you bought the same place, especially when you consider people are overbidding like crazy and already house poor when they start out. So many house poor people coming into play once interest rates go up a couple of more points.
This whole rent vs buy conversation is dumb though. For some people it makes sense to rent and for others it makes sense to buy. Lifestyle is the determining factor, a home isn't an investment.
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ITT: Rentcells showing their stupidity as per usual. SSDD
No there won't be a crash like we saw in 2008-2012. However I think it will calm down quite a bit. This BS of homes going for 20% over market value is about to fall off. It will probably go back to a more normal market but inflation will keep the prices up there.
No there won't be a crash like we saw in 2008-2012. However I think it will calm down quite a bit. This BS of homes going for 20% over market value is about to fall off. It will probably go back to a more normal market but inflation will keep the prices up there.
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All I know is, when in doubt, jack the rent.
Its far better to make some rentcel pay the mortgage.
Its far better to make some rentcel pay the mortgage.
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
The person posting that response never says anything beyond a statement he never backs up and a smiley face.It's hilarious how defensive and angry homewnercels always get when they are called out with numbers and facts.
Not a single argument, only "lmao" and "cope" responses.
Not a single argument, only "lmao" and "cope" responses.
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I really hope the housing markets corrects itself as is now its absolutely insane how the prices have gone up. I would say the pay rate has gone up maybe 10% on average in the last 3-4 years and the housing prices have increased 50%-100% in that same period..
Also lol at everything falling apart with the Dems in charge litearlly everything is falling apart. Even Amazon posted a 3.8 billion quarterly loss INSANE.
Also lol at everything falling apart with the Dems in charge litearlly everything is falling apart. Even Amazon posted a 3.8 billion quarterly loss INSANE.
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
yeah it'll calm down about 40%.ITT: Rentcells showing their stupidity as per usual. SSDD
No there won't be a crash like we saw in 2008-2012. However I think it will calm down quite a bit. This BS of homes going for 20% over market value is about to fall off. It will probably go back to a more normal market but inflation will keep the prices up there.
No there won't be a crash like we saw in 2008-2012. However I think it will calm down quite a bit. This BS of homes going for 20% over market value is about to fall off. It will probably go back to a more normal market but inflation will keep the prices up there.
NAR is a RE bull and they say values will decrease 9% this year.
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Biggest COPE of the misc for the last couple years has to be the rentcels playing mental gymnastics thinking they aren't getting absolutely CUCKED.
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
Bro I am struggling with the same issue! Bought my house in April 2019 for 1M and now Zillow/Redfin have it at 2.2M. How should I handle my $730k loan without being upside down and losing my whole life blahhhhh cooooppppeeeee hnnnnggggg fuuuuuuuuHnnnng bought my house end of 2018, for $615k, appraised for 1.4m couple months ago.
HNNNNNNNNNNG COPEEEEEEE WHATEVER WILL I DO
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Originally Posted By BothellBarbell⏩
I think the part where you didn't sell at the peak to realize your gains is the issueBro I am struggling with the same issue! Bought my house in April 2019 for 1M and now Zillow/Redfin have it at 2.2M. How should I handle my $730k loan without being upside down and losing my whole life blahhhhh cooooppppeeeee hnnnnggggg fuuuuuuuu
home sales are down 9% in march
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Originally Posted By BothellBarbell⏩
Lol!Bro I am struggling with the same issue! Bought my house in April 2019 for 1M and now Zillow/Redfin have it at 2.2M. How should I handle my $730k loan without being upside down and losing my whole life blahhhhh cooooppppeeeee hnnnnggggg fuuuuuuuu
You don't know it, but that thing would sell for maybe $1.2M right now. And less than what you paid for it in another 6 months. Homes in my city are being listed for about 15% less than what Zillow Algorithms are pricing them at, and selling for less.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
Probably would only get 1.2 million right now. Lol at people taking this Zillow estimate seriously.Lol!
You don't know it, but that thing would sell for maybe $1.2M right now. And less than what you paid for it in another 6 months. Homes in my city are being listed for about 15% less than what Zillow Algorithms are pricing them at, and selling for less.
You don't know it, but that thing would sell for maybe $1.2M right now. And less than what you paid for it in another 6 months. Homes in my city are being listed for about 15% less than what Zillow Algorithms are pricing them at, and selling for less.
All Florida agents in my ******** are posting everday looking for leads, and some "Successful" agent i know from NY is flogging like a free appraisal worth 250 dollars lol.
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Originally Posted By GeezersPalace⏩
Florida sales numbers are down in general just from lack of inventoryProbably would only get 1.2 million right now. Lol at people taking this Zillow estimate seriously.
All Florida agents in my ******** are posting everday looking for leads, and some "Successful" agent i know from NY is flogging like a free appraisal worth 250 dollars lol.
All Florida agents in my ******** are posting everday looking for leads, and some "Successful" agent i know from NY is flogging like a free appraisal worth 250 dollars lol.
people just haven't listed houses in the first place so RE agents have to take what they can get.
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Despite objectively looking like a sub 80 iq manlet at the moment OPs got a good schtick going. If he keeps saying real estate will crash he'll be right and can just forget about the years he spent being wrong. Meanwhile everyone who bought a home before rates went up will be sitting on 30% increased equity and payments lower than anyone in history even after the coming "crash".
If op had any actual knowledge of RE he'd stfu and use it to maximize his own profit.
I'll keep on happily paying my mortgage that is equivalent to a 190,000 mortgage at today's rates, guess if my home loses 51% of it's value (I did the math) I'll be underwater for a few months until it recovers. How will I cope
If op had any actual knowledge of RE he'd stfu and use it to maximize his own profit.
I'll keep on happily paying my mortgage that is equivalent to a 190,000 mortgage at today's rates, guess if my home loses 51% of it's value (I did the math) I'll be underwater for a few months until it recovers. How will I cope
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