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post 1660624433 05-02-2022, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
No answers.
Trying to move goalposts.
Ackchyually it's American involvement so it doesn't count.
Ackchyually if I try to be vague as usual I can pretend that the results that don't count are "overly inflated" either way.

Ok memecope.
It's only us and our children's lives you're happy to involve. Your ilk will be the cause of your very own death, potentially. Lol at "goalposts," typical democrat fashion dodging the point.

You Lust. Over what? Two ****hole countries that have zero to do with us. Russia will have its goal, as they have already achieved the minimum of taking the east. Let's keep pretending Ukraine with US involvement is 1. Necessary 2. Relevant. 3. Not dangerous.

Call names all day. You should be ashamed of yourself as a man and an American if you technically are one.

Pelosi and Schiff were standing tall with Ukraine in their capital. That's you lol.
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post 1660625213 05-02-2022, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop
It's only us and our children's lives you're happy to involve. Your ilk will be the cause of your very own death, potentially. Lol at "goalposts," typical democrat fashion dodging the point.

You Lust. Over what? Two ****hole countries that have zero to do with us. Russia will have its goal, as they have already achieved the minimum of taking the east. Let's keep pretending Ukraine with US involvement is 1. Necessary 2. Relevant. 3. Not dangerous.

Call names all day. You should be ashamed of yourself as a man and an American if you technically are one.

Pelosi and Schiff were standing tall with Ukraine in their capital. That's you lol.
The fact that Pelosi recently met with Zelenskyy tells me all I need to know - it shows me that I'm on the ride side of what's going on at the moment.

She's evil, rotten & corrupt to the core - exactly like Zelenskyy. No surprise though since Pelosi is probably the one that cherry-picked/installed Zelenskyy as President.

Also fukn lol at crying bitch Adam Kinzinger pushing for military intervention if Russia uses chemical/biological weapons. The RINO swamp rat would stay at home in his cushy residence while he sends people off to die.

Absolute fukcing KUNT.
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post 1660626203 05-02-2022, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
and what will be left of the ukraine if and when that actually happens?
how will it actually happen?

ukraine can't do it alone and even if he is adding more countries to the western alliance nobody in that alliance is actually doing something that makes an actual difference.
In my opinion, the economic warfare will make a ukranian invasion untenable past September. It takes months for joblessness, dwindling supply chains and macro economic policies to fully hit mainstream Russians. Interest rates are curremtly above 20% and there's more but I don't want to type a book.

Ukraine only needs to outlast the Russians, the economic, diplomatic and likely cyber warfare will force Russia to retreat. Unable to access credit, insurance rates through the roof, unstable supply chains and more.

Personally, I think putin has a chance to withdraw this month to stave off complete economic collapse.
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post 1660626303 05-02-2022, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
Ukrop shills still melting down after 300 pages


Its so cringey srs
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post 1660627133 05-02-2022, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Its so cringey srs
The only people “melting down” are ones who think Russia is somehow winning and aren’t being hurt by sanctions.
post 1660627353 05-02-2022, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup
The only people “melting down” are ones who think Russia is somehow winning and aren’t being hurt by sanctions.
Posted by someone that thinks everyone with a russian name is a russian spy

To be clear russia isn't winning, they already won
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post 1660627543 05-02-2022, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup
The only people “melting down” are ones who think Russia is somehow winning and aren’t being hurt by sanctions.
146 out of 152 Ukrainian airplanes have been destroyed.

Since you're dumb as fukc that means Ukraine only has 6 airplanes left.

Cope harder.

Keep telling yourself & your wife that Ukraine is winning.

Fukn dumb ass lmao.
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Originally Posted By Slavbrahh
146 out of 152 Ukrainian airplanes have been destroyed.

Since you're dumb as fukc that means Ukraine only has 6 airplanes left.

Cope harder.

Keep telling yourself & your wife that Ukraine is winning.

Fukn dumb ass lmao.
His wife's country is going to get divided between russia and poland, the guy is a mess

Bonus though when zelensky retires in miami chalup can suck his dik for real, a dream come true
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Originally Posted By metroins
In my opinion, the economic warfare will make a ukranian invasion untenable past September. It takes months for joblessness, dwindling supply chains and macro economic policies to fully hit mainstream Russians. Interest rates are curremtly above 20% and there's more but I don't want to type a book.

Ukraine only needs to outlast the Russians, the economic, diplomatic and likely cyber warfare will force Russia to retreat. Unable to access credit, insurance rates through the roof, unstable supply chains and more.

Personally, I think putin has a chance to withdraw this month to stave off complete economic collapse.
russia has a vast supply of natural resources the world needs.
notice nobody has stopped buying their oil.
their sales have gone up and they are expected to make 300 billion on that alone this yr.
they are what the second largest oil supplier to the world?

then there is grain.
major exporter of that.
there is a grain shortage now even with russia pushing almost 2 tons a month out the door.

basically we disrupt russia's exports the world suffers far quicker than russia suffers.
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Originally Posted By Slavbrahh
146 out of 152 Ukrainian airplanes have been destroyed.

Since you're dumb as fukc that means Ukraine only has 6 airplanes left.

Cope harder.

Keep telling yourself & your wife that Ukraine is winning.

Fukn dumb ass lmao.
That's 6 ghosts of Kiev bro, Russia is fukt
post 1660628513 05-02-2022, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
russia has a vast supply of natural resources the world needs.
notice nobody has stopped buying their oil.
their sales have gone up and they are expected to make 300 billion on that alone this yr.
they are what the second largest oil supplier to the world?

then there is grain.
major exporter of that.
there is a grain shortage now even with russia pushing almost 2 tons a month out the door.

basically we disrupt russia's exports the world suffers far quicker than russia suffers.
Their sales have went up? Yeah? Post a single source stating this. Their sales are down 30% genius.
post 1660628603 05-02-2022, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
That's 6 ghosts of Kiev bro, Russia is fukt
I don't know if you heard but the ghost of kiev is dead

Pls send more money for his memorial
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Originally Posted By chalup
Their sales have went up? Yeah? Post a single source stating this. Their sales are down 30% genius.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russ...nctions-2022-4

Russian oil sales have gone up — not down — after massive sanctions from the West

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post 1660628803 05-02-2022, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
https://www.businessinsider.com/russ...nctions-2022-4

Russian oil sales have gone up — not down — after massive sanctions from the West

And here's the kicker: Europe has agreed to pay in ROUBLES......
Everything I post is satire.
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post 1660629073 05-02-2022, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
And here's the kicker: Europe has agreed to pay in ROUBLES......
where you getting that from?



Simson said: “Many European energy companies are due to make the next payment to Gazprom in mid-May and are trying to understand better what they should do and we need to give them the clarity that paying in roubles through the conversion mechanism managed by the Russian public authorities and a second dedicated account at Gazprom bank is a violation of the sanctions and cannot be accepted.
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
And here's the kicker: Europe has agreed to pay in ROUBLES......
This thread is basically 300 pages of braney and chalup getting basic information wrong in between accusing anyone that doesnt believe in the ghost of kiev of being a russian shill
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post 1660629333 05-02-2022, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
where you getting that from?



Simson said: “Many European energy companies are due to make the next payment to Gazprom in mid-May and are trying to understand better what they should do and we need to give them the clarity that paying in roubles through the conversion mechanism managed by the Russian public authorities and a second dedicated account at Gazprom bank is a violation of the sanctions and cannot be accepted.
It's right here, buddy boyo... they found a legal loophole.... Chadimir Putin got Europe by the muthaf/ckng balls.... they ain't getting off Russian fossil fuels any time soon..


Europeans care a hell of a lot more about their air conditioning than they do about Ukraine...





Everything I post is satire.
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post 1660629343 05-02-2022, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
It's right here, buddy boyo... they found a legal loophole.... Chadimir Putin got Europe by the muthaf/ckng balls.... they ain't getting off Russian fossil fuels any time soon..


Europeans care a hell of a lot more about their air conditioning than they do about Ukraine...





strong source lmao



thanks bro
post 1660629443 05-02-2022, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
strong source lmao



thanks bro
Hey man, this ****** news network has been more credible than either CNN or Fox News... they're actively calling out Europe's hypocrisy while Western media outlets remain silent...


... and that news anchor is sexy....
Everything I post is satire.
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
Hey man, this ****** news network has been more credible than either CNN or Fox News... they're actively calling out Europe's hypocrisy while Western media outlets remain silent...


... and that news anchor is sexy....
not sure if srs.


thats groce m8
post 1660630043 05-02-2022, 08:48 PM
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The Ukrainian military destroyed the heavy equipment of the invaders near Izyum before the next wave of the offensive.
vid -




two of these Raptor patrol boats were destroyed off the coast of Snake Island
https://www.naval-technology.com/wp-...e-3-Raptor.jpg
vid -
longer vid-https://mobile.twitter.com/clashrepo...53873305276416

also a ZSU AA gun and a Strela-10 short-range SAM were destroyed on Snake Island
vids-







minus one RU ammo depot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbjsOxBYskY





Ukrainian SOF hit Russian armour in Kharkiv Oblast, damaging or destroying 2x tanks (Claimed to be a T-90A and T-80BVM), 2x MT-LB variants, and a TOS-1A thermobaric MRL- which fires rockets wildly after being hit by artillery fire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHpXx8OYJpI
post 1660630453 05-02-2022, 09:01 PM
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ukriame is the first country on the planet to win by losing
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
not sure if srs.


thats groce m8
This. Fukn no. I've seen like three sexy Indian chicks in my time and boy let me tell you, she isn't one of them.
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post 1660630543 05-02-2022, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
so we can't deal with putin directly.
we obviously can't throw billions at the problem either as that really didn't deal with putin either.

it's really an impossible situation and we should of never gotten involved.

putin does not want to start chit with NATO.
so he would of stopped at NATO borders.
resistance or otherwise he is carrying out his plan and it is going to absolutely happen whether anyone wants it to or not and no amount of money or weapons put in the ukraines hands are going to change that so...

why drag it out?
I hear ya. I agree that Putin was never going to attack a NATO country. But would he have taken non NATO countries (eg Moldova, Finland, etc.) should he have been unopposed in Ukraine? I don't know the definitive answer to this (and I don't believe any other miscer knows the answer either). But the possibility is that he would and I think this is what western leaders fear, a fear that keeps us in the proxy war.

Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
the confusing part (and i don't know if plano has said this) is i keep getting told russia is running out of army.
so if that were true putin couldn't go any further if he wanted to.
I've never claimed Putin is running out of army, nor do I believe he will anytime soon.

Originally Posted By Stizzel
Maybe, but putin hasnt even tried crossing that border so saying ukraine resistance stopped them is just as confusing.
Not sure what was confusing about my statement (other than the clarification I needed to make). I certainly didn't claim that Ukraine resistance stopped Putin. Again, my question was initially unclear, but now that it's clarified do you think Putin would have stopped at Ukraine's western border had he been unopposed in Ukraine. My suspicion is no, he would not.
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
russia has a vast supply of natural resources the world needs.
notice nobody has stopped buying their oil. their sales have gone up and they are expected to make 300 billion on that alone this yr.
they are what the second largest oil supplier to the world?

then there is grain.
major exporter of that.
there is a grain shortage now even with russia pushing almost 2 tons a month out the door.

basically we disrupt russia's exports the world suffers far quicker than russia suffers.
The world would not suffer quicker than Russia. ​Russia is one country, with very little support that relies on western technology and finance.

The Wests plan is to weaken Russia for decades.

Macro economic policies take months and years to be realized. Russia's credit rating is selective default and junk status. Russia needs to raise money for military, infrastructure or growth via bonds? Well good luck with that and it takes years to rebuild their rating, which wasn't that great to begin with.

Russia nationalized leased aircraft, effectively stealing from the global industry. A niche industry. Need more passenger jets after the war? Good luck with that. Need jet parts? Sanctions. Unemployment. Brain drain.

Large construction projects, aircraft, shipping etc all require reinsurance. SwissRE, MunichRE, Lloyd's, Marsh, etc. Nope.

We are about two months in, it's like a family using their emergency cash during a crisis. You can survive but very soon you run out of supplies, no jobs and you have no friends. You'll scrap by for a bit until it starts to all fall apart.

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Russia's industry may be working now but the West is playing the long game.
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Originally Posted By ymer
tldr; Just two more weeks until sanctions cripple Russia.
I said months and possibly years, crippling for a decade plus. This is economic warfare and that's how wars are won.

Come punch me in the face. Instead of hitting you back I'll be in court for the next 5 years draining you in attorney fees.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Posted by someone that thinks everyone with a russian name is a russian spy

To be clear russia isn't winning, they already won
I'm curious - what metrics are you using to claim that Russia has won? I'm not saying they've accomplished nothing but I can't see how they've won at this point, especially as they're still shelling places like Odessa which is far from the disputed lands in the east of Ukraine.
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It's a hair over 6 days until the Moscow May 9 Victory Day Parade.

The parade will begin at 10 am Moscow time or 3 am eastern US time on Monday, May 9.

At about 9:55 am Moscow time is the scheduled arrival of the President and the Prime Minister.
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter
I'm curious - what metrics are you using to claim that Russia has won? I'm not saying they've accomplished nothing but I can't see how they've won at this point, especially as they're still shelling places like Odessa which is far from the disputed lands in the east of Ukraine.
Im being cheeky but im also going off what that military analyst said. The first thing russia did was destroy ukraines ability to move units around and once that was done it was over. Jives with what i've seen of russia targeting railways, etc
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