You clearly don't have any experience with these types of individuals. He is a wealthy successful guy who is providing for her. There's no reason she should try to control his life. The only reason she was doing so is because she had "split" him black, and was looking to control and dominate him.

His only mistake was not having a good enough support system to tell him to "GTFO" before he was in too deep with this girl. Drinking and doing drugs is not anything more than drinking and doing drugs, and words said in anger don't really mean anything.

I have paid almost no attention to this case other than what I've seen here, but all of these Cluster B's act exactly the same so I can accurately predict her actions.

Just because they've dealt with trauma doesn't excuse their demonic actions. At the very least, the public should be educated on these types of people so they know to get away before it's too late. You seem to want to sympathize with them, which allows them to continue to terrorize.

Oh I see now. I think we fundamentally disagree that asking your husband to stop or get help for their substance abuse issues is controlling them.

That is 100% the definition of attempting to control a person. I doubt he started using drugs after they got married, and I'm sure she had no issues with his drug use while she was "Idealizing" him.

The Cluter B girl I dated was the one buying drugs for me at the beginning of our relationship lol. Then her personality flipped after like 30 days and decided that drug use was bad(while she became closer friends with a couple who also liked to use drugs). These people are disordered, and I'm starting to think you may be disordered as well for thinking this behavior is normal.

Want to know how I know youre crazy yourself? Because youre self identifying with this batchit crazy bish.

Sort of agree there as well. I think in marriage it's completely acceptable to expect your spouse to get help for substance abuse issues and if they don't, you let them go.

No where have I said this behavior is normal. I also do not think accepting drugs from your new girlfriend is normal.The testerics are a bit much. This is actual gaslighting, same with Oliver.

I see the point of view stated in these threads that a skilled cluster b could pull anyone in, but I really wonder about that sometimes. Maybe I'm showing my naivete, but I do wonder if some people are just particularly susceptible to that type of influence. I freely admit I've never been around anyone like that. But I don't spend time with people who try to bend my morals or who are manipulative; maybe that offers some protection or maybe I'm just lucky.

I haven't heard much about the case other than the funny memes of her sh!tting in the bed.

Bingo. It's possible that you've just been lucky, but these people always show flags and cracks. What's been posted so far are like those massive flags you see at car dealerships in the midwest, LOL. I assume you'd not accept drugs from your brand new girlfriend and maybe re-evaluate things at that point. They don't just pull anyone in, they pull people in who are willing to be and who make bad relationship decisions.

I dont think so. It maybe a little hyperbolic but youre doing that thing that almost all woman do. Take another woman's side because you see yourself in that situation, not the person that IS in that situation.

shes still hot
she doesnt need money you already know that no matter what there are some rich guys out there willing to make her their everything

she dated Elon Musk ffs, literally the richest man in the world lol. and prob would still be with him if she wasnt psycho

her career is over and fame forever damaged. She doesnt have 50mil either so good chance she files bankruptcy,; but shes 36 so some rich dude can easily scope her up and they can still have a kid. she better hurry up tho the clocks ticking

I've called her an unhinged lunatic numerous times, and she is. She's unstable, mentally unwell, and so is he. My addressing his numerous issues isn't taking her side.

I don't see myself in that situation because I would never be in that situation. I don't keep company with substance abusing maniacs.

Wait I'm not supposed to be doing that?

imagine the misc with SilenceSpeaks on mute...never see, let alone have to read, her posts.

Apparently the sex is great or something? IDK, thank G-d I don't think with a dick.I totally agree that evil is real, but I also think attributing dark forces to our terrible choices is cope. Recognizing your part (which in fairness, you have done!) seems to be the only way to avoid these people and circumstances in the future, and I don't see how that's possible by using sweeping words instead of talking about actual behaviors. Do you know what I mean? Unsure if I'm explaining myself here.

Nah, they can't pull everyone in. But they're very persistent. Like my ex gf was staying at the same hotel I was at, and I kinda ignored her first couple subtle(but not really that subtle) attempts, and then she eventually just came and sat down next to me at the pool and started talking to me. I was there solo, and she was with friends, so she talked me into going out with them that night. Then her friends left, and by then I had already fuked her a couple times and she ended up staying with me in my room for a couple nights, then we just kept staying together for a couple weeks.

I wouldn't always be susceptible to that type of stuff, but she asked me a bunch of questions then kind of came up with a fake personality to get what she wanted out of me while also figuring out what I wanted so I wouldn't push her away. But I was by myself, on vacation, with no plans and all the freedom in the world, so as soon as she started talking to me she knew she found someone she could get whatever she wanted out of at the time.

Ultimately, they are users. They are looking to use you for whatever they can, and once that supply is cut off is when they start acting terribly and all the abusing stuff begins.