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post 1660667873 05-03-2022, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Florida sales numbers are down in general just from lack of inventory

people just haven't listed houses in the first place so RE agents have to take what they can get.
The Cope continues.

Maybe people have realised that the return on NINJA loans means bubble and that houses in places like Tampa and jacksonville aren't worth more than 300k
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Even the blind chicken finds a worm eventually.

And OP "maximized his own profit", by selling off his properties - almost two years ago!
Imagine gloating about your market knowledge while selling your rentals right before the largest rent increases in modern history. A real financial wonderkind. If I did that I'd pray nobody found out.
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Originally Posted By RICHSTRONG⏩
How's Florida lookin? I'm ready to buy a cheap trailer as soon as bottom falls out
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
And you sold almost two years before the peak.
huh weird. Could of sworn I sold a property a little over a year ago, and have a property listed now.

odd.
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post 1660673413 05-03-2022, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
Imagine gloating about your market knowledge while selling your rentals right before the largest rent increases in modern history. A real financial wonderkind. If I did that I'd pray nobody found out.
there's no guarantee a lease would be up during this period, and it would only represent an increase for short amount of time.

the manlet thing is hilarious. It's true, I'm 5'6" and 270lbs.

And I've never stated there was going to be a crash until covid happened. At that point its frustratingly obvious, and its even more frustrating explaining every single point of an obvious problem when the complement of said outcome is impossible to support. There's no reason to believe this market will even remain at these levels, in fact its not. 10% in a few months is far outside normal deviation, especially when adjusted for season.
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post 1660673613 05-03-2022, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted By GeezersPalace⏩
The Cope continues.

Maybe people have realised that the return on NINJA loans means bubble and that houses in places like Tampa and jacksonville aren't worth more than 300k
No doubt. The natural market pricing was about 50% off of where it is now. Those $300k homes really should be $150k, but in the crash I'm sure we'll see it go lower due to the psychology of the market.

Largely the answer key to this test is simple. The prices before covid are the natural market prices. WFH may have changed some mindsets but people are already returning.
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post 1660673823 05-03-2022, 03:43 PM
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Zestimate up big time from when I bought. Feelsgoodman!

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post 1660673893 05-03-2022, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted By SouthDakotaBrah⏩
Zestimate up big time from when I bought. Feelsgoodman!

Amortizationchad checking in
You aware zillow almost went bankrupt from using their own zestimates right? lmao.
Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
There's no telling what is going to happen until we see the Fed's behavior with interest rate increases. I think they'll do it because they have no other option.
my brother in christ

the fed has already ended QE, and interest rates have doubled. They've directly stated they're going to keep increasing rates, and utilize quantitative tightening.

Only complete absolute retards are defending any section of any market right now.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Seeing price cuts. Its a bizarre mix of realtors pricing homes at 600k for a normal chitty suburb residence down the block from the same track home priced at $400k now.

Everyone I know from cali is moving back. This humidity is running them out. There are no silicon valley tech jobs here. It is hard cut engineering firm work.

edit: trailers cost more than entry level homes here. They're the golden ticket to 55+ age communities and the sexual debauchery within. I am not exaggerating, dear brother in christ I am not exaggerating. Micco florida has one of the world's largest trailer parks and its shaped like a pentagram.

Those people absolutely fuk.
I've been watching the market and haven't noticed anything about average pricing srs. if it's going to drop it needs to hurry the fuk up. i need my life back
i looked up old listing from JUST before covid. homes on the beach doubled. yes 100%.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Right but they've reversed action in the past (which I'm hoping they don't do again).

I hope they keep forward with aggressive rate hikes.
agreed, but I don't think they can reverse it with this level of inflation. Its not just the fed spending causing inflation, its also sUpPlY cHaIn IsSuEs.
Originally Posted By HairyWBush⏩
I've been watching the market and haven't noticed anything srs. if it's going to drop it needs to hurry the fuk up. i need my life back
Florida has a quarter of the inventory it used to. The rest of the country has nearly recovered supply, but florida is lagging hard. The interest rate hike will help dramatically with this.
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post 1660674213 05-03-2022, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
No doubt. The natural market pricing was about 50% off of where it is now. Those $300k homes really should be $150k, but in the crash I'm sure we'll see it go lower due to the psychology of the market.

Largely the answer key to this test is simple. The prices before covid are the natural market prices. WFH may have changed some mindsets but people are already returning.
If there's a 50% crash in RE prices we'll see a crashed economy and home prices will be the least of our concerns. Prices crashed 9.5% in 2008, for reference, which is a record.

I also agree that prices will drop (slightly) or at the very least start growing less than inflation until normalized but your take is truly unhinged.

Also, at 5'6" 270 I hope your making use of the info on bb.com. honestly.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
agreed, but I don't think they can reverse it with this level of inflation. Its not just the fed spending causing inflation, its also sUpPlY cHaIn IsSuEs.



Florida has a quarter of the inventory it used to. The rest of the country has nearly recovered supply, but florida is lagging hard. The interest rate hike will help dramatically with this.
that's because everyone's moving here, desperately snatching up any and every home. home's can't be on the market because they can't STAY on the market. guy at work had the nerve to say it's all the people from texas. L O L it's from cali, new york, PA, and everything else comes in 2nd
Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
If there's a 50% crash in RE prices we'll see a crashed economy and home prices will be the least of our concerns. Prices crashed 9.5% in 2008, for reference, which is a record.

I also agree that prices will drop (slightly) or at the very least start growing less than inflation until normalized but your take is truly unhinged.

Also, at 5'6" 270 I hope your making use of the info on bb.com. honestly.
look up satellite beach. 100% increase
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post 1660674443 05-03-2022, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
You're missing the difference here.

Interest rates don't really matter to people buying investment properties.

If rates skyrocket, that's just going to make it harder for your tenants to ever consider anything besides renting.

Beyond that, hardly anyone has adjustable rate loans anymore.

This market will definitely cool off and correct at some point, but it's not going to be a collapse. There's nothing to feed the spiral. People aren't going to randomly foreclose on their homes when their payments stayed the same.
What could happen in certain cities with a large presence of investors is that prices could start returning back to what they were prior to 2021, and those that bought homes that they don't actually live in for 2x or 3x what they were just two years ago could start dumping in order not to end up underwater. Many of these homes are in undesirable parts of metros that realistically locals can't afford now under any circumstances. In addition to this I've seen realtors post appreciation predictions for some of these markets where home values will continue growing at this insane rate for the next decade at least. That's ridiculous unless the dollar completely collapses, and is that really a win at that point? I suppose it's better than losing all that money.

The real winners are those who bought before all this happened, then refinanced at record low rates.
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Originally Posted By HairyWBush⏩
that's because everyone's moving here, desperately snatching up any and every home. home's can't be on the market because they can't STAY on the market. guy at work had the nerve to say it's all the people from texas. L O L it's from cali, new york, PA, and everything else comes in 2nd
Yes

We have no more migration than normal but those that are migrating are from well off demographics. Its important to make that distinction, because then you realize the factors that will affect migration constituency. Its not a never ending pot. The impetus these types of people have for moving has passed. Those that are here may, or may not, stay here but more are not coming.
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
If there's a 50% crash in RE prices we'll see a crashed economy and home prices will be the least of our concerns. Prices crashed 9.5% in 2008, for reference, which is a record.

I also agree that prices will drop (slightly) or at the very least start growing less than inflation until normalized but your take is truly unhinged.

Also, at 5'6" 270 I hope your making use of the info on bb.com. honestly.
Yeah, it was a record crash which proved other record crashes could happen. Its not a waterline for worst case scenarios nor is it the only path in which a crash can happen. Calling my take unhinged is hilarious when I've called the exact mechanism out a year ahead of time and now that its came to pass we're seeing the market wind down dramatically.

but whatever lmao

What type of engineer are you? Are you familiar with forced and natural responses? breaking systems down into constituent components is used in finance as well.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Yes

We have no more migration than normal but those that are migrating are from well off demographics. Its important to make that distinction, because then you realize the factors that will affect migration constituency. Its not a never ending pot. The impetus these types of people have for moving has passed. Those that are here may, or may not, stay here but more are not coming.
??? new homes and complexes being built=more room to stuff immigrants from other states
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
You aware zillow almost went bankrupt from using their own zestimates right? lmao.



my brother in christ

the fed has already ended QE, and interest rates have doubled. They've directly stated they're going to keep increasing rates, and utilize quantitative tightening.

Only complete absolute retards are defending any section of any market right now.
Amortizationchad checking in. Feels good seeing my equity increase each month with every payment I make on my 15-year mortgage (srs)
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Originally Posted By RICHSTRONG⏩
How's Florida lookin? I'm ready to buy a cheap trailer as soon as bottom falls out
Rich my friend, I'm just watching the market now waiting to swoop in on some lovely gulf beach town property. Naturally I'm looking at Tampa south, I ain't white trash.

But you boyo are welcome in my casa de freedom crib when purchased. Although you may need to come and go at night...no offense.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
I'll come and visit Sillie.
Hell, you can come and go during the day Rob. While conservative at least it's unlikely that your married relatives were first cousins.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Yeah, it was a record crash which proved other record crashes could happen. Its not a waterline for worst case scenarios nor is it the only path in which a crash can happen. Calling my take unhinged is hilarious when I've called the exact mechanism out a year ahead of time and now that its came to pass we're seeing the market wind down dramatically.

but whatever lmao

What type of engineer are you? Are you familiar with forced and natural responses? breaking systems down into constituent components is used in finance as well.
Saying a coming crash will beat a record is not unhinged, however saying a crash will beat the record crash by 500% is. If anything RE prices will crash to where they were before the last 2 years but also take into account the normal appreciation (aka normalize). The median home price in 2019 was 258,000. In 2022 that number is 392,000. If prices were to reset back to 2019 that would represent an approximate 35% "crash". Black Knight stated in 2019 that home appreciation averages 3.8% per year, so normal growth would mean a home that cost 258,000 in 2019 would be 288,543 today. That represents a 27% crash.

Stating a crash that is 500% larger than the record, and isn't in line with the 27% number I quoted above, is unhinged. Provide any type of data, evidence, or corroborating opinions you have for that. I've provided plenty in this post alone to argue that you are an idiot.

And FWIW if my house dropped 50% my mortgage would be the same as a mortgage on 50% of my home at the current rate so I don't really have a dog in this fight, I just think you are a moron.

Edit to add - this also doesn't incorporate inflation or average home size growth which both lean in my favor. I'm an IT engineer but have an MBA so I'm fairly familiar with the world of finance.
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Meh...rich peeps will swoop in when it all goes to total chit. Turn the properties into rent properties with asinine rent prices. And yet again, the middle class will continue to miss out and continue to get more and more chit on in modern America. We basically won't have a "middle class" before long. It'll just be poor and rich. No in-between.

Home ownership as an average paid American is done unless you're willing to settle for a crack house.
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Where do you see that home builders have overbuilt OP?
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
Saying a coming crash will beat a record is not unhinged, however saying a crash will beat the record crash by 500% is. If anything RE prices will crash to where they were before the last 2 years but also take into account the normal appreciation (aka normalize). The median home price in 2019 was 258,000. In 2022 that number is 392,000. If prices were to reset back to 2019 that would represent an approximate 35% "crash". Black Knight stated in 2019 that home appreciation averages 3.8% per year, so normal growth would mean a home that cost 258,000 in 2019 would be 288,543 today. That represents a 27% crash.

Stating a crash that is 500% larger than the record, and isn't in line with the 27% number I quoted above, is unhinged. Provide any type of data, evidence, or corroborating opinions you have for that. I've provided plenty in this post alone to argue that you are an idiot.

And FWIW if my house dropped 50% my mortgage would be the same as a mortgage on 50% of my home at the current rate so I don't really have a dog in this fight, I just think you are a moron.

Edit to add - this also doesn't incorporate inflation or average home size growth which both lean in my favor. I'm an IT engineer but have an MBA so I'm fairly familiar with the world of finance.
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why would I expect this crash to be inline with 2008 when I didn't found it on any of the same factors? Thats been the bear argument this entire time. 5%, 50%, 500% doesn't matter at all. What matters is the composite effect from said deviant factors and how they weigh the market value. And in this case its easy to see the forced response of the market is doubling values.

SO lets apply your logic to the market build up. The build up from 2020 would be impossible to you, because there's no way the market would increase that much.

The path for failure is just success in reverse....
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News has been starting to break the last couple days that more houses are going up for sale. The first year over year increase in 3 years.

If the pattern holds it should be clear as day that real estate is starting to get dumped on the market.

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Originally Posted By 10w30⏩
News has been starting to break the last couple days that more houses are going up for sale. The first year over year increase in 3 years.

It could just be a fluke, but if the pattern holds it should be clear as day that real estate is starting to get dumped on the market.

bro buyers already had a 41%+ dti then interest rates cut their purchasing power 30+%

you'd have to be a COMPLETE RETARD to think the market wasn't going to crash

I've repeated this a billion times. This isn't 2008. The crash is happening on the demand side, not the supply side. People absolutely cannot fukking fathom this. Its completely impossible to them.
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