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Originally Posted By MotorCityCobra⏩
Das it.im so used to getting raped by the market i dont even care now
We don't care no more
05-09-2022, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
Definitely getting numb to it.Das it.
We don't care no more
We don't care no more
Gonna stack some cash and buy more once we start evening out.
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05-09-2022, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By knightofday⏩
LethalGainz posted this in another thread earlier-This very solid, but very dated imo, advice is going to get soo many in my generation crushed down the road.
They’re going to trigger a collapse before 2040 I’m am 100% certain. It’s all going down for us.
They’re going to trigger a collapse before 2040 I’m am 100% certain. It’s all going down for us.
Many index-fund holders will be disappointed if this comes to pass, of course, so Farrell encourages investors to add more active management to their portfolio. Said Farrell: “We’re going from a period where the best money was made being in an index fund to a period where you make money identifying the right individual stocks and sectors. I’d concentrate more on that.” (Rule No. 10: “Bull markets are more fun than bear markets.”)
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05-09-2022, 04:43 PM
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YTD I'm -20.83%. Would be a lot better if I didn't have 25% in a leveraged 3x sp500 stock. That went from +40% to -22%. Haven't sold anything, gonna rideeeee it out.
Last summer I met with a financial advisor and they wanted me to move over $75k I had in cash to the market, I was like derp derp and only moved over $10k. Very happy about that. Also my savings account interest rate went from .4% to .6%. Yayyy lol.
Last summer I met with a financial advisor and they wanted me to move over $75k I had in cash to the market, I was like derp derp and only moved over $10k. Very happy about that. Also my savings account interest rate went from .4% to .6%. Yayyy lol.
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05-09-2022, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
this is such BS. index funds outperform in bull markets and they outperform even more so in bear markets. you or any fund manager are not going to suddenly become a better market timer or stock picker in a bear market. ludicrous.LethalGainz posted this in another thread earlier-
Said Farrell: “We’re going from a period where the best money was made being in an index fund to a period where you make money identifying the right individual stocks and sectors. I’d concentrate more on that.”
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ss-11652111307
Said Farrell: “We’re going from a period where the best money was made being in an index fund to a period where you make money identifying the right individual stocks and sectors. I’d concentrate more on that.”
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ss-11652111307
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
brads fund is up 8% YTD what do you have to say about thatthis is such BS. index funds outperform in bull markets and they outperform even more so in bear markets. you or any fund manager are not going to suddenly become a better market timer or stock picker in a bear market. ludicrous.
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05-09-2022, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
https://money.cnn.com/2018/02/24/inv...bet/index.htmlbrads fund is up 8% YTD what do you have to say about that
05-09-2022, 05:54 PM
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I'm up about $200,000 over the last 2 months. Because I sold everything and bought puts. Now I'm doing short term puts with smaller amounts of money to try to scalp. Then when we hit a bottom, I'm investing it all again.
05-09-2022, 06:32 PM
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Gordon is right in general and Buffett would say that a short focus is not conducive to long profits. Huge volumes of money moves around every day, todays winner is tomorrow’s loser, etc etc
05-09-2022, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
I claim no such expertise. Just quoting this guy:this is such BS. index funds outperform in bull markets and they outperform even more so in bear markets. you or any fund manager are not going to suddenly become a better market timer or stock picker in a bear market. ludicrous.
Bob Farrell, a 90-year-old retiree in Florida, is hardly a household name on Main Street. But on Wall Street, Farrell is an absolute legend.
To say that Farrell has seen it all is an understatement. He has witnessed every bull-, bubble- and bear market since 1957, when he joined Merrill Lynch as an analyst trainee and embarked on what became a 45-year career with the firm, including a quarter-century as its high-profile chief stock-market analyst.
In the April 27 webcast for Rosenberg Research clients, Farrell said he expects investors in U.S. stock indexes could be mauled with a 30% loss and that downward pressure on share prices could last through summer. He advises selling into rallies rather than buying dips, and otherwise sheltering in value stocks — specifically in the defense, cybersecurity, utilities and energy sectors, as well as owning gold GC00, -0.34% and income-generating master limited partnerships.
“We are in a bear market,” Farrell said. (Rule No. 8: “Bear markets have three stages — sharp down, reflexive rebound and a drawn-out fundamental downtrend.”) “Growth-tech is going out of favor; we’re gradually breaking down the big-cap stocks that have kept the S&P 500 SPX, -3.20% up. By the time this is over, it’s likely that they all go into a larger decline. If the S&P 500 comes down 30%, which I think is a possibility, then you’d be down to 3,460.”
To say that Farrell has seen it all is an understatement. He has witnessed every bull-, bubble- and bear market since 1957, when he joined Merrill Lynch as an analyst trainee and embarked on what became a 45-year career with the firm, including a quarter-century as its high-profile chief stock-market analyst.
In the April 27 webcast for Rosenberg Research clients, Farrell said he expects investors in U.S. stock indexes could be mauled with a 30% loss and that downward pressure on share prices could last through summer. He advises selling into rallies rather than buying dips, and otherwise sheltering in value stocks — specifically in the defense, cybersecurity, utilities and energy sectors, as well as owning gold GC00, -0.34% and income-generating master limited partnerships.
“We are in a bear market,” Farrell said. (Rule No. 8: “Bear markets have three stages — sharp down, reflexive rebound and a drawn-out fundamental downtrend.”) “Growth-tech is going out of favor; we’re gradually breaking down the big-cap stocks that have kept the S&P 500 SPX, -3.20% up. By the time this is over, it’s likely that they all go into a larger decline. If the S&P 500 comes down 30%, which I think is a possibility, then you’d be down to 3,460.”
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Originally Posted By GordonXXXS⏩
Yes but he’s talking about real money - pounds sterling - not worthless American pesos“I don’t know how much money I’ve got, but I said to the girl who runs the accountant’s office, ‘Give me a call when it’s time to f**kin’ curb my enthusiasm.’ Or as we say in England, ‘Give me a call when I’m down to my last four million.’” - Noel Gallagher - Oasis
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Couldn't imagine holding AUD.Yes but he’s talking about real money - pounds sterling - not worthless American pesos
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Or any fiat tbh. But bidenbucks stand out as one of the worstCouldn't imagine holding AUD.
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Originally Posted By GordonXXXS⏩
It’s a shame because all the plumbers I’ve met make your “net worth” in a yeari don't take financial advice from f**king plumbers.
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Anyone holding now when the global indices look like they're going into a bear cycle is playing with fire lol. The DOW will fall to 28000 points before any decent recovery.
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LMAO me too.
Love this for me.
Love this for me.
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My advice is - Allocate, buy, hold, rebalance, and stay the course.
“It was the best advice and the earliest advice. I was working at a brokerage house one summer while in college, and one of the guys who was another runner at the firm delivering securities said, “Let me tell you all you need to know about the investment business.” I said, “What’s that?” He said, “Nobody knows nuthin’.” That sounds cynical, but we don’t know what the markets hold, certainly not in the short run. We have no idea.” - John Bogle
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
barely get you an apartment in London or LACall me when I'm down to my last $2M.


better get back to work
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
A lot of plumbers are millionaires or are you joking around?It’s a shame because all the plumbers I’ve met make your “net worth” in a year
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
Def srsA lot of plumbers are millionaires or are you joking around?
They get into the labour force as apprentices at 16
Fully qualified and doing jobs from 19
Smart ones get their builders license or start doing construction/hydraulics
BRB sole contractors accelerated writeoff on their $150k trucks
BRB warehousing profits at 30% in their companies
BRB cash jobs
BRB mates rates on all the other trades when building their houses
BRB pay zero tax on capital gains from their primary residence and concessional tax on any investment properties
BRB get their building licenses and pick up both the developer margin and the builders margin
BRB housing market of peace and prosperity
Yes somewhat jelly
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Originally Posted By knightofday⏩
Like they’re getting crushed now buying into meme stocks when the market couldn’t lose? Had they listened to the outdated advice, they’d only be down 10-20% rather than 50-60+.This very solid, but very dated imo, advice is going to get soo many in my generation crushed down the road.
They’re going to trigger a collapse before 2040 I’m am 100% certain. It’s all going down for us.
They’re going to trigger a collapse before 2040 I’m am 100% certain. It’s all going down for us.
You forget most people aren’t competent enough to read the signals or even understand the factors involved in investing. Most are best off DCA’ing into an index fund and forgetting about it until 5-10 years out of retirement.
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