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post 1663491683 06-26-2022, 05:27 PM
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LMAO So, when a man gets a woman pregnant, he’s up for 18 years child support

That’s always been the case

Doesn’t matter if she deliberately trapped him, it was an accident, or he “just wasn’t ready to have children”.

He gets no choice in the matter. Once he’s proven as the father, if the woman chooses to have the baby, he can be up for 18 years of child support payments.

The man gets no “choice”.

There is no “my wallet, my rights”

Basically indentured servitude for 18 years. She might get half of the value of his labour.




But suddenly when the turntables are turned and women in some states potentially find their choices being restricted

They expect men to be outraged on their behalf?


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post 1663491743 06-26-2022, 05:28 PM
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just knock up a really successful woman so she pays you
post 1663491863 06-26-2022, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
That’s always been the case

Doesn’t matter if she deliberately trapped him, it was an accident, or he “just wasn’t ready to have children”.

He gets no choice in the matter. Once he’s proven as the father, if the woman chooses to have the baby, he can be up for 18 years of child support payments.

The man gets no “choice”.

There is no “my wallet, my rights”

Basically indentured servitude for 18 years. She might get half of the value of his labour.




But suddenly when the turntables are turned and women in some states potentially find their choices being restricted

They expect men to be outraged on their behalf?


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Logic is lost on many of these people, its better not to try and reason w/ them and just fix the problem they've made and move on.

Hopefully, this will be the next fix.
post 1663492063 06-26-2022, 05:35 PM
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Which states will be the first to legislate against forced fatherhood lol
post 1663492253 06-26-2022, 05:39 PM
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Very valid point. People were just using abortions as a form of birth control. Hopefully this will make both male and females use actual birth control to avoid having a kid… probably not.
post 1663492303 06-26-2022, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted By regl8r⏩
Very valid point. People were just using abortions as a form of birth control. Hopefully this will make both male and females use actual birth control to avoid having a kid… probably not.
once the male bc pill is a thing, I think we'll have fewer babies born than before rvw was overturned
post 1663492343 06-26-2022, 05:41 PM
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My wife and I discussed this topic today and I made this point.

Told her that men aren't necessarily being cruelly insensitive, rather this has been our reality all along so the feelings just aren't there. Got over them and accepted this fact a long time ago so I really don't have any for women in our boat now.

My overall sentiment is "welcome to the club."
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post 1663492363 06-26-2022, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
just knock up a really successful woman so she pays you
0.000000000000001% chance of happening IRL
We’re all gonna make it.
post 1663492423 06-26-2022, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted By dizzin9⏩
0.000000000000001% chance of happening IRL
It's law, if i filed tomorrow my ex would pay me around $850/mo
post 1663492643 06-26-2022, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
The problem is not that simple...

If the father wants nothing to do with the child, you can't force the mother to abort.

If it would be possible for the father to "financially abort" a child, that would leave the state to take care of the child financially.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to fund someone else's failure to pull out in time.
Sure.

I’m not saying the rules regarding “forced paternity” are likely to change or even that they should

I’m just amazed at the sudden outrage, and the hypocrisy of women expecting men to be outraged on their behalf

“Rules for thee and not for me” and all that
post 1663492813 06-26-2022, 05:51 PM
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I call it "Celebration". It's sexual, and violent...

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post 1663493153 06-26-2022, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted By GolfPants⏩
the GOAT
Holy hell when did he come out with that

Can’t have been in the last few days

Absolute GOAT comedian and now it seems time traveller
post 1663493233 06-26-2022, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I can understand that. Butjust like women with good morals would never find themselves in a situation where they require abortion,men with good morals would never find themselves in a situation where "financial abortion" would be a logical option.
Inb4 edge cases like incest and grape used to justify casual murder for everyone
post 1663493243 06-26-2022, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Which states will be the first to legislate against forced fatherhood lol
Forced marriage by state. Not the worst idea

Make the nuclear family great again
See you tomorrow
post 1663493383 06-26-2022, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Pterodactyl314⏩
Forced marriage by state. Not the worst idea

Make the nuclear family great again
No, I mean which state will be the first to legislate that men cannot be forced into 18 years a slave

Surely the 13th amendment would provide some basis
post 1663493463 06-26-2022, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
just knock up a really successful woman so she pays you
This doesn't happen, at least not with any frequency you can count on. For the most part, family courts function to unilaterally transfer money and assets, based on gender much moreso than actual financial situation.
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Originally Posted By Redundanteater⏩
This doesn't happen, at least not with any frequency you can count on. For the most part, family courts function to unilaterally transfer money and assets, based on gender much moreso than actual financial situation.
It is state by state but most are moving away from that. PA has for awhile and it's pretty clear cut. If it's 50/50 custody, whichever parent makes more pays the other. And you can file adjustments and flip it around if the top earner changes.
post 1663493803 06-26-2022, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Get sole custody
Take the other person to the cleaners

Just need a great lawyer.
there's that too.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
It is state by state but most are moving away from that. PA has for awhile and it's pretty clear cut. If it's 50/50 custody, whichever parent makes more pays the other. And you can file adjustments and flip it around if the top earner changes.
Well I hope you're right, and I hope it continues. I find actual deadbeat dads pathetic losers, however there has been a very real bias against men in family court for far too long. There needs to be a balance between making men take responsibility and confiscating what amounts to "cash and prizes" to any manipulative woman.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Get sole custody
Take the other person to the cleaners

Just need a great lawyer.
Buddy of mine went through it. Solid guy with a great job, no criminal history, etc. His lawyer basically told him he would need video evidence of the mom doing hard drugs to have any chance of getting sole custody. Granted this was some years ago, and in California at that...
post 1663494053 06-26-2022, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Redundanteater⏩
Buddy of mine went through it. Solid guy with a great job, no criminal history, etc. His lawyer basically told him he would need video evidence of the mom doing hard drugs to have any chance of getting sole custody. Granted this was some years ago, and in California at that...
well it's almost equally hard for the woman to get sole custody in most states as well.

but getting 50/50 is the norm in a lot of states, never give the primary, fight for the 50/50 split
post 1663494353 06-26-2022, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
No.

Fight for sole custody, accept 50/50 if you can't get it.
It's so close to impossible and you risk looking retaliatory to the custody master. Fighting for 50/50 makes you look like the reasonable one.

Unless you have a legitimate reason the mom shouldn't have custody
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Holy hell when did he come out with that

Can’t have been in the last few days

Absolute GOAT comedian and now it seems time traveller
2019
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If an adult woman has sex with a minor boy, the boy's parents still have to pay child support. When he turns 18, he has to pay child support to his rapist. That is the law in most states.

Probably the same if a woman rapes a man in the dark while his girlfriend is making a sandwich in the other room. No one cares if the man consented.
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How about this:

If both parents want custody, they both get 50% of the custody and neither pays child support. If only one parent wants custody, the other parent pays child support.

Don't like it? Don't knock up randoms then
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Inb4 edge cases like incest and grape used to justify casual murder for everyone
As if that makes up more than like 0.01% of abortions
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