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post 1664010233 07-06-2022, 08:09 PM
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Dude contractors are such crooks lmao

So I need a french drain installed on one side of my house. Had a couple contractors come out essentially they need to dig a 60' trench and lay 60' of sloped perforated PVC pipe. Labor would be $2090 (no problem) and materials would be $700 (fkn lol). Told him he has a deal if I can supply my own materials and pay the $2090 for labor. He tells me that works and gives me an estimate reflecting this.

A couple days later, I call him with my credit card ready to go. He tells me his boss told him I can't supply the materials and they'll only do it if they supply the materials. Maximum bait and switch.

Do you know how much 60' of perforated PVC pipe costs? It costs $54 max at full retail price. They would like to charge me $700 for supplying $54 of pipe. That is a 1,300% mark up. This company literally went back on what they told me just so they can charge me 1,300% on materials. Fkn lol.

Just wrote this idiot an email telling him I don't want his pipe and to fist himself lol. Unbelievable.
post 1664010393 07-06-2022, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By TheScapeGOAT⏩
So I need a french drain installed on one side of my house. Had a couple contractors come out essentially they need to dig a 60' trench and lay 60' of sloped perforated PVC pipe. Labor would be $2090 (no problem) and materials would be $700 (fkn lol). Told him he has a deal if I can supply my own materials and pay the $2090 for labor. He tells me that works and gives me an estimate reflecting this.

A couple days later, I call him with my credit card ready to go. He tells me his boss told him I can't supply the materials and they'll only do it if they supply the materials. Maximum bait and switch.

Do you know how much 60' of perforated PVC pipe costs? It costs $54 max at full retail price. They would like to charge me $700 for supplying $54 of pipe. That is a 1,300% mark up. This company literally went back on what they told me just so they can charge me 1,300% on materials. Fkn lol.

Just wrote this idiot an email telling him I don't want his pipe and to fist himself lol. Unbelievable.
French drain needs aggregate and fabric as well.

What size pipe?
post 1664010783 07-06-2022, 08:22 PM
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As a contractor myself, 10 times out of 10 when the home owners “supplies” his own materials, there is problems. They shouldn’t have done a bait and switch and material does seeem high. There’s rocks, fabrics, a lot more too it I’m sure. If not, I’d recommend renting a mini skid steer or back hoe and doing it yourself
post 1664010993 07-06-2022, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Bigworm365⏩
As a contractor myself, 10 times out of 10 when the home owners “supplies” his own materials, there is problems. They shouldn’t have done a bait and switch and material does seeem high. There’s rocks, fabrics, a lot more too it I’m sure. If not, I’d recommend renting a mini skid steer or back hoe and doing it yourself
Strong this. I always love when someone thinks they're an expert tradesman, but have no idea wtf they're talking about. (Ded fkn Srs)
post 1664011263 07-06-2022, 08:33 PM
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You are the worst kind of customer. If you know how to do the job at such a low cost then do it yourself. The owner probably walked away because he could see from a mile away you are a headache.
post 1664011323 07-06-2022, 08:34 PM
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Just do it yourself. Tradies are scam artists lmao
post 1664011673 07-06-2022, 08:42 PM
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Do it yourself you cheap fawk
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post 1664011763 07-06-2022, 08:45 PM
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I hate contractors with a burning passion. They take every job and swear they can do it. Do it sloppy and whatever it takes to get the job done and move onto the nice job. Zero pride and craftsmanship anymore. Managers who are supposed to oversee them don't do ****
post 1664012003 07-06-2022, 08:50 PM
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You're probably better off finding a tradie on Craigslist and do it for half the price. I have a personal non contract/licensed tradie handy man that does house work for me. He does a good job for half the price as licensed contractors. I refer him to all my friends
post 1664012023 07-06-2022, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
Strong this. I always love when someone thinks they're an expert tradesman, but have no idea wtf they're talking about. (Ded fkn Srs)
This.

I had a client call me today telling me he found a much cheaper quote "online" and that my quote was too expensive after already closing with me 2 hrs before. I proceeded to politely school him on how he is basically an idiot who doesn't chit, he ended up apologizing at the end.
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post 1664012113 07-06-2022, 08:53 PM
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What size pvc pipe? I have a hard time believing there is anything out there for less than $1/foot
MFC
post 1664012123 07-06-2022, 08:53 PM
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There's a huge demand for a way to accurately rate contractors

Yelp, next door, word of mouth etc are all useless

How has some software company not solved this yet
post 1664012153 07-06-2022, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted By regl8r⏩
You are the worst kind of customer. If you know how to do the job at such a low cost then do it yourself. The owner probably walked away because he could see from a mile away you are a headache.
Yeah he saw he couldn’t scam someone so decided to just move on

Lmao at contractors. How long to do the job you think? Absolutely in no world more than 10 hours. They wanna make $200/hr for an unskilled labor job plus mark up the materials. Tradies in a nutshell
post 1664012273 07-06-2022, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Yeah he saw he couldn’t scam someone so decided to just move on

Lmao at contractors. How long to do the job you think? Absolutely in no world more than 10 hours. They wanna make $200/hr for an unskilled labor job plus mark up the materials. Tradies in a nutshell
“Unskilled” labor is expensive especially when you throw in general liability and workers comp insurance, then there are tools and vehicles to maintain.
post 1664012423 07-06-2022, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted By neilsabo⏩
There's a huge demand for a way to accurately rate contractors

Yelp, next door, word of mouth etc are all useless

How has some software company not solved this yet
Because how can you take the word of some literal dumbass costumer as an objective opinion?

Example, today I had a customer told me "but that doesn't fit there" to which I had to reply after bert staring "this is just a sample, mam".

No single review is evidence of anything, you have to read dozens and try to find a negative or positive pattern to get a ballpark idea if the vendor is offering a good service/product or not.
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post 1664012633 07-06-2022, 09:05 PM
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Lots of hidden costs like the time it takes to buy all the stuff and transporting it etc. unless it's supposed to just magically *POOF* on over to your house.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
post 1664012693 07-06-2022, 09:06 PM
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Upgrading to a 400a panel cost me nearly 60k using a contractor. **** them.
post 1664012933 07-06-2022, 09:11 PM
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But seriously LOL at tradies now use your tears to lube yourself so the giant girthy tradie cocks don't tear your butthole too bad.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
post 1664013053 07-06-2022, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By luckyboy23⏩
Upgrading to a 400a panel cost me nearly 60k using a contractor. **** them.
What??!

How the hell does it end up coming out to that much?
post 1664013203 07-06-2022, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
But seriously LOL at tradies now I’ll use your tears to lube myself up for my dads giant girthy tradie cock. Hopefully I don't tear my butthole too bad.
Fixed
post 1664013293 07-06-2022, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted By JeepBruh⏩
What??!

How the hell does it end up coming out to that much?
Had to dig a trench corner to corner in a small 7 car parking lot to pull/upgrade the wire from the utility pole.. $5k just for sketches (that pissed me off).. Other than that, a tiny, easy job.. It included 3 200a panels (whoopdie-doo). Permits, electric company, asbestos testing (scam), blah blah blah.. The contractor basically threw the book at me which is why it ended up being so much.

He didn't lift a finger. He had a couple of tradie workers doing ALL of the work, he was rarely on site. When he was, he was kickin it on some portable rubbermaid table. Those tradies were probably making $20-$30 per hour.. They were cool ass, smart hard working employees though. I'm not using the term "tradie" in a derogatory fashion.
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Originally Posted By blazenbb⏩
Fixed
Sorry Timmy but we're men not pencil pushers.

Hope you find your dad some day, I'm sure it doesn't take that long to buy a pack of smokes.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
post 1664013453 07-06-2022, 09:22 PM
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How bout you shove that french drain up your ass, op. Stop talking chit about tradies.
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For a contractor to do a job they require $X per hour. Now if they provide materials they will naturally mark them up and then quote a lesser quote for labor. If you provide the materials then they would just provide a quote with the labour portion being more expensive than usual. Their time is the most valuable part, not the materials. They will likely still want to make the same amount of money for the job regardless of who provides materials. Not to mention you might be providing the wrong materials or of a low quality which could reflect poorly on the contractor.

In short you're in the wrong here OP, sorry brah.
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Originally Posted By CuttyUnderleaf⏩
“Unskilled” labor is expensive especially when you throw in general liability and workers comp insurance, then there are tools and vehicles to maintain.
Yet they will always slice their bids in half for me when they really need a job

I know the tradie game bro, you ain't foolin' me

I only used licensed tradies for roof, HVAC, foundation, electrical and plumbing. Anything else and I can pay a guy per hour
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Originally Posted By luckyboy23⏩
Upgrading to a 400a panel cost me nearly 60k using a contractor. **** them.
You got absolutely raped lmao
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Originally Posted By Miscbob⏩
For a contractor to do a job they require $X per hour. Now if they provide materials they will naturally mark them up and then quote a lesser quote for labor. If you provide the materials then they would just provide a quote with the labour portion being more expensive than usual. Their time is the most valuable part, not the materials. They will likely still want to make the same amount of money for the job regardless of who provides materials. Not to mention you might be providing the wrong materials or of a low quality which could reflect poorly on the contractor.

In short you're in the wrong here OP, sorry brah.
He's really not though
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
You got absolutely raped lmao
Sure did. They know how to gauge well too.. See a small business, property owner, checking out what I drive, wear, how busy we are etc.. It's rape I had to accept.
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They can ask any price they want to, you don't have to say yes. This is how you work this deal.

Ask for an itemized list of materials and their costs including quantities and brand name with part numbers. If they do this, do your own research and then call asking why their prices are so high. "hey you can get this at Home Depot for X but you are charging Y". If they use an expensive brand they should be able to explain why they are using that brand. If they won't do these things they are just shady AF and don't use them even if they do use your materials. Get another estimate. Honestly at this point I would just start off fresh with someone new because you've already kind of messed up that one.
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I dunno brah, I mean i get the sentiment but if I'm a contractor I'm guaranteeing my work and materials not some chit you got at the dollar store to save a buck.
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