brah the main issue with the episode is how it completely ruined almost every story arch, has nothing to do with Trump (imo anyway, I'm not even American lmfao)

- Butcher suddenly deciding to NOT kill Homelander because of... what exactly?
- Maeve sacrificing herself for... who exactly? j/k she has lesbian plot armor so she's fine
- Kimiko casually injecting a bit of V to get her powers back and now she's a happy psycho killer, which she hated for the entirety of the show up until now?
- MM being all over the place really, became an irrational, emotional idiot bystander by the end and also with an unwarranted "racist" jab towards SB
- the entire Hughie/Annie power dynamic that seemed to finally shift abit toward Hughie gets totally destroyed and also with a unwarranted ****gôt jab toward Hughie (by Maeve)

probably forgot a lot but this is all from 10 minutes in one episode completely ruining all previous episodes

God...can you imagine if they did a whole abortion season.....

You could totally do that with some kind of superbeing monster being born or a superbeing who rapes women and so on.

Homelander then caves in and gives some woman a laser abortion because even he has to admit that an abortion is good sometimes.

They could easily make shows about that.

strong incel

1. Butcher made a promise to his dead wife to protect her kid. Thats why he did that, not to save Homelander but to fulfill his promise to the only person he ever gave a chit about.

2. Maeve didnt want everyone in that building to die from Soldier boys blast. Not that complicated.

3. Kimiko explained it in the episode, after Frenchie almost dying in front of her face she decided she wanted her powers back. In the past she was only used as a weapon but now she sees her powers as a means of protection. Not that complicated.

4. MM wasnt all over the place, every thing he did and wanted and believes in has been explained ad nauseum. Soldier boy is a racist.

5. No idea what you even mean with the annie/hughie. That isnt even over Hughie still has the last vile of temp v

Since you are from another country, you can see how crazy people are in the US.

The show sucked and you clearly point out why, but no....it was a great show because you're an emotionally hurt Trump supporter.

Meanwhile, you are from Belgium.

triggered trumpcels cant handle it when they see their retarded ideas parodied. I thought it was the left that couldnt take a joke

Poverty bait.

Token and most of us were fully on board with the season up until the finale and have detailed how it schat the bed. Haven't scrolled through others but both him and I are Europeans who don't give a fuk about and don't have a stake in US politics.

you're still right wing cels that are clearly triggered. stay mad

1. Ryan was never in any real danger, SB blast would've only made him powerless... seems like that SHOULD be a win-win for Butcher with some consistent writing

2. they evacuated the building + having the blast right outside the building didn't really make that much difference, and if you mean protect The Boys they were there on a suicide mission anyway and the powerless supes could've finished of a powerless Homelander

3. it's explained alright, but does it make SENSE?

4. they kept making clear SB killed MM's family, who happen to be black, but did I miss the RACIAL motive?

5. I meant Hughie finally showing some character this season but of course he needs to get emasculated for some reason that I don't understand, they just brought him back to his bland self right when he finally started to develop a bit

Yes, like our Belgian Trump fanatic in this thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

If you have the time and ability to pay attention, this is an important read.

Many people watch shows like The Boys and think it's fun, but it's really not. The messages in shows like this are negative and successful propaganda changes your mind without the writer telling you they are trying to do that.

It's a form of lying that is much worse than directly lying to your face.

1. How do you know that? Yea he's a homelander's kid but he's half normie and only like 12. Easily could have had a different result on him.

2. The full building of that size surely had people still in it. And no the boys were not on a suicide mission except butcher. and even IF they were totally fine with dying, doesnt mean Maeve would want that.

3. Yes, it makes complete sense that somebody would change their opinion on something after they fall in love and almost lose that person when they are powerless.

4. Yes you missed the very obvious implication that Soldier Boy was hurting black people specifically.

5. No idea what you're talking about other than you're mad that he didnt kill himself by taking more v? What else did you want to see him do?

Same exact feelings here, mate.Not a single part of the show dealing with or relating to our real world social/cultural "issues" improved the show off the top of my head, and anything remotely political felt like nothing more than a failed rebuttal to, "the left can't meme," and over a year too late. The latter makesa lotof sense seeing as we're talking about Seth Rogen here.

I was skeptical until real quotes from the creators' themselves are straight up saying Homelander is Trump, so it feels like they're completely divorcing themselves from what made the show/premise enjoyable in the first place (or what made HomelanderHomelander) because apparently masturbating over their political beliefs on Twitter isn't enough for them. The most they've accomplished is proving that "rent free" isn't an exaggeration if they somehow managed to twist an evil Superman-like figure into... Trump. I mean,really?I don't think a person has to like or hate Trump to see how stupid that is across the board; it's not clever writing, it's a cry for help.Yep, like JUSA, I was on board until this last episode spelled out what they're going for and how much they are willing to sacrifice in the name of serving Twitter instead of the actual plot or the characters they had written.

You, Token, and any other non-Americans serve as a really important yet neglected problem that they're digging themselves into with the show, which is how not only does involvingAmericancurrent events date the show for American viewers, but it completely isolates everyone else. Our politics are exhausting and frankly retarded 99% of the time, so doubling and tripling down on more American-centric BS is dragging the entire thing down for everyone except an increasingly narrow segment of people who are just as miserable as the showrunners.

It reeks of self-importance, while also quite evidently hurting the quality when they're trying to squeeze in some extra Twitter-thought-turned-scene into the story.Maeve took the blast point blank to the face, was depowered, and survived falling off a skyscraper - the kid would've been fine.

Better, even, since Butcher would never have to think about including him in his Supe genocide plan.

2.Even the building excuse made no sense when this wastheshot to take down Homelander, who this entire time they've been worried would go completely off the rails at any moment and wipe out the entirehuman race. It only became a plot point because Starlight's writing demands that she be an insufferable, holier-than-thou nag.

It also came off like some missing communication if their mission was to save people at Vought but Kimiko went chimpanzee mode on a bunch of security guards.

4. Nope, Soldier Boy had walked past a white and black gay couple with nothing but a shrug and outright calls Bill Cosby America's dad. Even in MM's recollection of his grandfather's death, Soldier Boy didn't even notice them when tossing a vehicle aside.

And not to be a dick, but this whole bloody time MM made it seem like Soldier Boy personally broke into their house and caved his grandpa's head in, when going by MM's own explanation of the event, it was negligent yet unintentional collateral damage. Then MM's father only died of, um, stress? MM still has every right to be pissed, but they really milked an accident (no pun intended) in order for him to actively turn his brain off while getting in the way this season.
5. Hughie wasn't even in the wrong to go the route he did with Temp V.
- He was helpless to protect his girlfriend from getting vaporized.
- He can't do anything to help The Boys beyond setting up cameras to blackmail A-Train in season 1.
- He is unable to protect Annie from a psychopathic Superman.
- He himself has been used by said psychotic Superman as leverage against Annie.
- And when he finally feels like he's doing something proactive in the fight against Vought without resorting to Butcher's ways, he finds out he's been working for Newman/Head-Popper the entire time.

The reaction towards Hughie using Temp V came off like the writers mixed him up with Butcher, who reallywaschanging for the worse. Hughie finally started to have some self-worth and not be walked over by everyon-aaannnndhe's back to being raw dog bottom.

I don't get why Butcher cares so much about this kid either to be fair. Remember, this is the guy who wanted to abandon the kid and just have he and his wife run away together. I know he "made a promise" or whatever but a guy like that who doesn't really give a sh*t about that kid is not gonna live up to that promise, no offense. There's just nothing in it for him. He wanted her and that was it, which is obvious by flat attempting to convince her to abandon the kid earlier. It was never really about her, it was about himself and what he wanted tbh

So yeah I agree with Butcher going all protective mode. Completely out of character. Especially after the kid chose Homelander. Butcher doesn't have that kind of patience to continue supporting the child until he comes around and see things differently. No chance.

What the hell did Starlight do to her face? She was so cute in the first two seasons and then turned into a plastic surgery monster.

More to the point about Butcher and the kid... the kid at one point asked Butcher to stay with him at the end of season 2 and he straight up left him with that other woman instead so he could go on some revenge tour against HL.... again all for himself. He's not interested in protecting or caring for this kid at all.... so it really doesn't add up as much as the writers want you all to cling to this "promise" storyline.

Overall, I think this show is a like a 6/10. Some interesting tidbits but the writing is kind of all over the place.

They talk about Homelander being practically invincible, yet Maeve can almost go toe to toe with him. Soldier Boy, who is pretty much almost as strong as Homelander, has a hard time beating Butcher who just recently started dosing himself with temporary V? Huh? And when Butcher was busy fighting Soldier Boy, at any moment he could have just stopped and said, "Hey, let me get the kid out of the way and then you can destroy Homelander." But no, can't do that because it ruins the plot. It's almost sitcom quality writing.

And what a cop out that Maeve only had her super powers taken away. Doesn't seem like either Homelander or Soldier Boy are that strong. Might as well just fist themselves.

I also hate how OP some of the powers they give a few of the characters. The AOC clone can pop people's heads off just by thought? That medical facility patient also has a pretty significant power where she can just squeeze people via thought? Da fukk.

A decent show to watch if you have nothing else to do.

Ryan really isn't a character on his own, just a walking plot device that is being set up as a counter to HL, problem is that nobody gives a schit about Ryan and focusing the plot around him means that the crew's efforts take a backseat and everything hinges on Ryan picking arbitrary sides in the whole conflict. It's fuking stupid.

"Let's introduce Temp V so they can finally get superpow- oops sorry, it's gone, back to being normies"
"Let's introduce a supe with a depowering be- oops sorry, Butcher pulled a 180 and SB is now boxed"

Where do they go from here? Reintroducing either to the plot would be idiotic since they have already explored both plot threads and would just hammer it home how both things were just used to pad out things.

Maybe they can toss Hughie's dad into a vat of experimental V so he turns into a HL tier supe who then spends a whole season contemplating his feelings.

Kripke and the rest of the retards actually managed to pull a TLJ move with the show in a single episode. Everything that follows will be stupid and it's pretty much impossible to care about any of the characters.

As a non American, though I see the likeness of real life happenings, doesn't really affect me much.

But question- are the agendas really obvious for American viewers or just those who thinks a lot about political/social issues? Would it really sway American minds on their life view?

That said, lol @ Soldier Boy telling Butcher what the Hell is wrong with him protecting the kid not his. Lol

are you for real?

Inconsistent “power levels,” so to speak, are a pretty common criticism I’ve seen particularly about this season because they went from a relatively consistent, predictable-enough (with twists to keep things interesting), and established to whatever the scene demands at that moment.

-Homelander is supposed to be top tier, above everyone else, with a lot of that doing how he was pretty much a test tube Supe.

-Soldier Boy is like the original Homelander, strong and durable, but he can’t fly or use laser vision.

-We know Maeve is strong and extremely durable to where she can tank a massive vehicle without flinching, and I’ll give them that the fight between her and Homelander came across as the latter holding back, not taking her seriously. One line of reasoning I’ve read is that Homelander didn’t want to kill her, but specifically in part because of what he said about harvesting her eggs. I’m not sure I entirely buy that because he has Ryan now, but I also wouldn’t rule it out completely.

-From what I understand, Newman (head-popper) has to have eye contact with the target at least. It also doesn’t seem like she’s powerful enough to affect Homelander, or he’s quick/strong enough to eliminate her before she can even be a threat.


-Starlight charges up from nearby electricity, but it’s all over the map what this even does. Again, I’ll at least credit the show for having other supes tell her to her face to cut it out because it’s dumb, and at this point I hope they just leave it at that.

Where they’llgo, or at least my guess with their formulaic BS, is that this finale was the tease for some true super saiyan power up for a final confrontation. Now, if the show was consistent with its cynicism/satire, then Starlight standing next to a power plant would just make her head pop or something, which at this point I’d just laugh at.

It was really in that final episode where all of that went out the window for the most part. Even before that, the Temp V introduced a bit of a power level problem on its own because despite being limited to ~24 hours, it somehow put Butcher even remotely close to someone like Homelander or Soldier Boy only made things fall apart faster.

Now we're just left with whether (ha) Butcher goes full V to not die.
That sums it up perfectly.

They introduced the proverbial kryptonite to Homelander evidently far too early and chose the worst way to write it out of the equation. Just as bad, they took the Temp V out of the equation just to shoehorn in some faux moral quandary or whatever for Annie and MM to bitch about to create artificial drama. So what we’re left with is The Boys come up with some new dumbsh*t plan to take out god complex Superman that will ultimately fail so that they can at least stretch this to 5 seasons. And eventhatisn’t set in stone, so they could pad it out further if they get the greenlight for more seasons from Amazon.

If anyone can stretch a prolapsed plot beyond its value, it’s Kripke.A lot of it really can be; in line with what I said earlier, American politics is pretty obnoxious, and I say that as someone who doesn't closely follow it because it's really all around negative.
Also, some of it I would normally be a bit skeptical about, but when the creators are going on Twitter or interviews outright stating that it is their intent for specific things, it follows through with being like the real thing: obnoxious.

Anyway, agreed on Soldier Boy. Incredible how they could write that reaction in, yet not have the wherewithal to see just how daft the entire setup to this whole thing was.

I have seen people saying it's a conservative show because when Homelander didn't want a Muslim on his team, the viewers were like---yeah right!

So, people are picking up on themes in the show whether they understand them or not.

In the US we are bombarded with nonstop propaganda about sexual and political issues. It's in comics, cartoons, news, movies, and it's almost always one sided. Many people, as you see here, are getting really aware of it and tired of hearing the same stuff over and over.

What country are you in?

Does it produce its own entertainment?

If so do you noticed that stories are actually trying to promote some idea or are they just interesting stories?

Sure.

Look at the last episode.

Homelander only hurts people who he believes did something to him. He is wrong to do it, but it's because his feelings are hurt and he's had nothing but that.

In the last Episode, Homelander is once again totally unhappy because of others, not something he did. Then, the one person he really likes, his son is put in danger and he snaps out of being selfish. He typically does not seem to mind Butcher too much as in previous episodes he said he understands why Butcher is angry.

When it came time to protect the kid, Homelander and Butcher turned back into the good guys they really are. Both guys are supposed to be f@cked up but good at heart. That's what it seems to me, but the show is written like crap, lol.