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post 1666633003 08-23-2022, 05:12 PM
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If you do you’re gonna have to walk the streets with your head on a swivel. Dude could run you over, shoot you, hurt a loved one, etc at any time.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Normally i agree with you my brah but here i have to disagree. I despise unloyal women, but me NOT fuking a woman in a relationship wont make her loyal. They are unloyal the second they decide to fuk me, regardless of whether i go with it or not.

A relationship is a 2 person agreement, not an agreement with the whole world. I think its a mistake to expect other men to keep your woman loyal. I wouldnt want my girlfriend to cheat on me, id hate her for it, but shes my GF, the commitment is between her and me. I wouldnt think twice about the guy unless i knew him or was a friend, only then is it different.




I dont consider the bible nor other religions to be the end of all moral compass. Gluttony is a capital sin yet the majority of people are overweight. Does that mean majority of people are evil? Of course not. Biological instincts and individual needs rule over the bible, quran or whatever.

Religion falls into the idealism category. How the world should be, everyone should be righteous and ignore individual needs. Of course that cant be a realistic moral compass to have, otherwise vast majority of us falls into the evil side of the compass. Makes no sense if we follow a normal distribution of morality.
By sleeping with a married woman you two are both responsible for your own actions, and both actions are culpable for the sin of adultery. Morality only comes from religion. If you aren't religious in any sense, then you can't get mad at a female for cheating as there is no moral spectrum, right? Then morality is fluid and person to person. So who are you to put your morality over another persons idea of morality?

See how retarded that all is? You shall not commit adultery is one of the 10 commandments It also shows as a man you have zero integrity. This is how the culture of our world has crumbled. Typically culturally these actions would have severe punishments in which would mitigate a lot of people wanting to commit the act because of the added fear of the punishment. Now though, it is suddenly accepted in our culture, isn't punished, and is even celebrated and perpetuated by people because they just offload the morality onto the other person and pointing fingers. You can't complain about the world's issues when you're part of it. You can't say porn is bad and then masturbate to it. Stealing goes unpunished in our society in certain areas now. If you lived there, would you then steal? If the world said murder isn't against the law, would you murder? Who's morality do you follow? Is it a buffet where you can pick and choose?

I'm sorry but there is no way to justify it.
post 1666633163 08-23-2022, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Women arent "goods", they are conscious beings, capable and free of making their own decisions (assuming 18+ of course). People dont own people.


Edit: And i wouldnt say buying stolen things is a good thing, wouldnt say its a bad thing either. 99% of people would buy something half its market price if given the chance, stolen or not, if they knew they wouldnt face consequences. Again, i dont think something that most people would do can be classified as "bad", as the majority of people cant be bad. Majority of people are "normal".
Man, if you know the dude and **** his wife, you are intentionally ruining hisl life. It's worse than punching him in the face. There is no reasonable justification to make it ok.

If some random married woman goes home with you from the bar and doesn't mention she's married, fine. Like Charlie Sheen fuked that guys wife in Major League

The wife is a piece of chit in either case. You are a piece of chit in the firsr scenerio only.
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Don't do it.
Don't tell her husband.
Cut contact and avoid ruining your life.

Marriage is no joke. There are many men who would kill, including myself and many on this forum. You are dealing with a human who has committed his existence to another in one way or another. Be aware of the danger that brings and make the right decision.
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Originally Posted By naich
Considering ruining a marriage and I'm the idiot, right.

Asking that question to see if there was some texting, some pics, some anything besides her stopping by from time to time. Not giving us a lot to work with here brah.
That's because this isn't actually happening.
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post 1666633503 08-23-2022, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Normally i agree with you my brah but here i have to disagree. I despise unloyal women, but me NOT fuking a woman in a relationship wont make her loyal. They are unloyal the second they decide to fuk me, regardless of whether i go with it or not.

A relationship is a 2 person agreement, not an agreement with the whole world. I think its a mistake to expect other men to keep your woman loyal. I wouldnt want my girlfriend to cheat on me, id hate her for it, but shes my GF, the commitment is between her and me. I wouldnt think twice about the guy unless i knew him or was a friend, only then is it different.
All the more reason why we surround ourselves with friends/family of good character and consciously make smart decisions in regards to seeking therapy and communicating openly with our partners when things aren't peachy so we don't run into the arms of the first willing person to get that fix of whatever void we may have at that moment.

And that's on the two people in the relationship to build that and nobody else.
post 1666633763 08-23-2022, 05:28 PM
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post 1666634603 08-23-2022, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
By sleeping with a married woman you two are both responsible for your own actions, and both actions are culpable for the sin of adultery. Morality only comes from religion. If you aren't religious in any sense, then you can't get mad at a female for cheating as there is no moral spectrum, right? Then morality is fluid and person to person. So who are you to put your morality over another persons idea of morality?

See how retarded that all is? You shall not commit adultery is one of the 10 commandments It also shows as a man you have zero integrity. This is how the culture of our world has crumbled. Typically culturally these actions would have severe punishments in which would mitigate a lot of people wanting to commit the act because of the added fear of the punishment. Now though, it is suddenly accepted in our culture, isn't punished, and is even celebrated and perpetuated by people because they just offload the morality onto the other person and pointing fingers. You can't complain about the world's issues when you're part of it. You can't say porn is bad and then masturbate to it. Stealing goes unpunished in our society in certain areas now. If you lived there, would you then steal? If the world said murder isn't against the law, would you murder? Who's morality do you follow? Is it a buffet where you can pick and choose?

I'm sorry but there is no way to justify it.
Morality doesnt only come from religion. Its just that their moral compass is naive and idealistic, not realistic. You are an idealist, and possibly morally righteous too, one of the few good people, and i do believe you wouldnt do immoral acts even if they served your purpose.

Im just saying that most humans arent like that. Most humans CLAIM to be morally righteous, but do wicked acts behind closed doors. Now thats what is hypocritical, not someone like me simply stating how humans truly are to our core. Humans cheat to please their own needs, steal if hungry to survive, kill out of envy, take territory out of greed etc. Its just how humans are.

I simply have a more realistic moral compass. I dont see a guy fuking a random woman in a relationship as an evil or bad dude, because he never made a commitment with anyone about that relationship, he wasnt there with the two of them when they agreed to be exclusive, he didnt agree to it. People are free to fuk, kiss, talk, think about whoemever they want, we are nobodies property. Why put the needs of another man over your own? That might make you a good man but if you dont, sure as hell doenst make you a bad man.


Again, you probably do have integrity, but most people dont. Most people, if they know 100% they will get away with it, will have sex with someone they really like even if that person is in a relationship. I dont see how an act that would be done by the vast majority of people can be seen as evil, i just see it as "human". I simply have a more realistic moral compass, thats why i wouldnt get mad at a random dude for fuking my GF. Shes hot as fuk, if shes a sloot and gives a guy the chance, 99% of guys will fuk her, and im aware of that. Thats why i expect loyalty FROM HER, not from random men.

I dont want to be with a woman that the reason shes faithful to me is only because other men dont want to fuk her.





Originally Posted By nothingshocking
Man, if you know the dude and **** his wife, you are intentionally ruining hisl life. It's worse than punching him in the face. There is no reasonable justification to make it ok.

If some random married woman goes home with you from the bar and doesn't mention she's married, fine. Like Charlie Sheen fuked that guys wife in Major League

The wife is a piece of chit in either case. You are a piece of chit in the firsr scenerio only.
You arent ruining nobodies life bro. The guys life and marriage is ruined whether you fuk her or not, because shes a cheater. Whether you put your dick inside her or not doesnt change the fact that he married a cheater and shes for the streets. Should be irrelevant to a guy what his woman does the second after she decides she would cheat if the circumstances allowed.
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post 1666634743 08-23-2022, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
You missed the point, and decided to be pedantic instead.

But I guess we can t least agree that these days, since the majority of people are "normal" according to the examples stated above, it it can be considered "normal" to be morally corrupt.

I'll gladly be part of the 1% of people who aren't.
Boomers have a slightly better moral compass, i agree with it. The times allowed for it, pushed for it and encouraged it.


Im speaking in general tho, about how humans are at our core, regardless of the era we live in. Trough history, humans have been anything but the righteous people religion expected us to be. I also dont thin its black and white like most people think.

If i need to pay my kids school and food, and i see a wallet on the street, will i return it or feed my kid and pay for its education? What does your moral compass say? What if you know the wallet's owner is a billionaire? Im just saying, its not just right or wrong, its a compass, not a lightswitch.
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post 1666635323 08-23-2022, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Boomers have a slightly better moral compass, i agree with it. The times allowed for it, pushed for it and encouraged it.


Im speaking in general tho, about how humans are at our core, regardless of the era we live in. Trough history, humans have been anything but the righteous people religion expected us to be. I also dont thin its black and white like most people think.

If i need to pay my kids school and food, and i see a wallet on the street, will i return it or feed my kid and pay for its education? What does your moral compass say? What if you know the wallet's owner is a billionaire? Im just saying, its not just right or wrong, its a compass, not a lightswitch.
I dunno man, I never felt it to be some morally difficult decision to not sleep with a married woman. It pretty much strikes me as immediately immoral on a fundamental level. Maybe our perceptions of normality differ.
post 1666635953 08-23-2022, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
And now you're resorting to mental gymnastics to justify being morally corrupt.
Don’t make it personal man, we are just having an interesting debate, like in a philosophy class. I’m not talking about myself, my experiences, etc.

I simply don’t think that actions that would be done by the majority of people can be seen as morally corrupt, if so, then most people are morally corrupt, and IMO that makes no sense. That’s not how a normal distribution works.


Would you agree that most single men would fuk a woman they really like and that also “belongs” to another man they don’t know? If they knew for a fact that there would be zero consequences? I believe the vast majority of healthy sexually capable men would.

And this is why I think it’s a neutral act. Not good, certainly not bad. It’s just something most would do, and I don’t think most people are morally corrupt. Most people are just humans, flawed creatures .
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The Universe will always balance the scales.

I didn't understand this when I was younger and had to learn the hard way.

Stop letting her over and stay out of it.
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post 1666636233 08-23-2022, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
You arent ruining nobodies life bro. The guys life and marriage is ruined whether you fuk her or not, because shes a cheater. Whether you put your dick inside her or not doesnt change the fact that he married a cheater and shes for the streets. Should be irrelevant to a guy what his woman does the second after she decides she would cheat if the circumstances allowed.
Fine, maybe you're not ruining his life. But you're being beyond disrespectful to the dude. You're fuking his wife. If you don't get that it's wrong to sleep with other guy's wives, I guess you're deserving of what they will want to do to you when they find out.
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking
Fine, maybe you're not ruining his life. But you're being beyond disrespectful to the dude. You're fuking his wife. If you don't get that it's wrong to sleep with other guy's wives, I guess you're deserving of what they will want to do to you when they find out.
I see his point-fidelity is a contract is between a man and a woman. I just feel that most people with a moral foundation extend their own values of fidelity into not participating in another’s infidelity. It’s a natural extension for those who value the principle, rather than the benefits of the principle, when it applies to them and their own relationships.

I remember a friends girlfriend that I made out with before in college (when she was single). He dated her shortly after and she hung out with me and drank after a party. Tried to get cuddly and I backed off. She fell asleep in my bed and I hung out with a roommate and talked about his hunting over the weekend (he brought huge bags of venison). We played cards with another friend and I slept on the couch. The girl is married now with two kids and that guy seems happy as fuk. We do have the option to stop mistakes from happening imo, they are not inevitable.
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If this situation happened to me, I'd likely not do anything about(including making the husband aware).

I actually had the wife of one of my childhood friends try to follow me to my hotel room after my brothers wedding reception(clearly looking for me to bust a quick nut inside of her), and I told her no. I already had sex with her once before they were married though, so that was maybe a slightly different situation. I didn't aware my friend, but I did tell some of our other friends so it's possible someone awared him. They're still together with 3 kids, and he knows she was a fairly big hoe before they got married(pretty much everybody we know fuked her at some point), so he probably wouldn't even care much, but I still wouldn't do that to a friend.

In your situation? Unless you're some incel with absolutely zero other options, it's not a good habit to get into fuking married women. Being cheated on sucks, and honestly while busting a random easy nut is nice you'll probably be happier if you just jerk off and keep things friendly with her.
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Originally Posted By Nicky161200
tell the husband, be a good dude

he might kill you if you **** her btw lol, don't end up dead for some pussy
this, i wood
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I'd just cut contact and not play the part of the hero - Who do you think the husband will believe anyway, his wife or some guy she's friends with?

The reason that you don't want to sleep with a married woman is simple - her husband finds out and does something bad to you.
Originally Posted By domenuts
The Universe will always balance the scales.

I didn't understand this when I was younger and had to learn the hard way.

Stop letting her over and stay out of it.
You my friend have the most perfect post i've seen so far in this thread.

You don't have to be what we call a 'beta' and not hit it, but just stop talking to her and let her live her life and sloot it up else where.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Edit: And i wouldnt say buying stolen things is a good thing, wouldnt say its a bad thing either. 99% of people would buy something half its market price if given the chance, stolen or not, if they knew they wouldnt face consequences.
You are a scumbag.

You'd know....
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Originally Posted By Adam16121
I dunno man, I never felt it to be some morally difficult decision to not sleep with a married woman. It pretty much strikes me as immediately immoral on a fundamental level. Maybe our perceptions of normality differ.
That's because you've been brainwashed by society into thinking that a human being can create a sacred bond and divine contract between two people, when in fact they can't.

It's like how there's the law of man and the law of karma - the law of karma will always prevail over the law of mankind's ego.

Think about it like this - a bisexual and mostly gay (yet good) man marries a good women and they have children (very common scenario).. that won't ever change his attraction towards the opposite sex, and it will either be a lifetime of denial, cheating, or an eventual break up.

A women who loves a man truly will never stop loving him, let alone cheat on him a year after getting married - he's stupid for thinking that she WON'T cheat...

Plenty of people out there who won't commit a crime even if given a perfect opportunity, but those who will, will.
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How does she invite herself to your apartment though?
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Originally Posted By NealIRC
How does she invite herself to your apartment though?
She'll mention she's in the neighborhood.
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Originally Posted By Akd123
Huh.to all the people saying screw her,you are all ligetimet degenerate scum.ive been in a similar situation and I can say I'd off you.i hope you meat a psycho like me.ive been to prison.you pusses wouldn't last a day.go ahead.do it.i hope they fook you up.its wrong
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Originally Posted By skinnyfat88
All the more reason why we surround ourselves with friends/family of good character and consciously make smart decisions in regards to seeking therapy and communicating openly with our partners when things aren't peachy so we don't run into the arms of the first willing person to get that fix of whatever void we may have at that moment.

And that's on the two people in the relationship to build that and nobody else.
How can people honestly have a relationship in today's society when you get into an argument or your boyfriend or husband ignores you and there are white knights willing to talk to you all night so they can get laid. There are just too many options these days to be in a committed relationship. I try to explain this to my therapist and she doesn't get it.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
How can people honestly have a relationship in today's society when you get into an argument or your boyfriend or husband ignores you and there are white knights willing to talk to you all night so they can get laid. There are just too many options these days to be in a committed relationship. I try to explain this to my therapist and she doesn't get it.
just because options are available doesn't mean self-control and self-accountability gets thrown out the window.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
How can people honestly have a relationship in today's society when you get into an argument or your boyfriend or husband ignores you and there are white knights willing to talk to you all night so they can get laid. There are just too many options these days to be in a committed relationship. I try to explain this to my therapist and she doesn't get it.
Lol how are you so retarded. You even say it yourself - they are willing to talk to you for the sole purpose of getting laid.

Blue balls is a powerful thing. Can turn the most charisma void person into he most charming person.

Once the load is blown, they don’t care about you anymore.

You need to settle for a person that is a 4/10 and decent human.
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot
just because options are available doesn't mean self-control and self-accountability gets thrown out the window.
Some people suck with self control, myself being one of them. Hence why I only buy healthy food but then my husband buys root vegetable chips to torture me.

But maybe if I get in a relationship and resist those urges to get attention from beta orbiters my self esteem would improve. Same with the chips. It's a nightly goal to resist them on my therapist's diary card, but he refuses to hide them from me.
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior
Lol how are you so retarded. You even say it yourself - they are willing to talk to you for the sole purpose of getting laid.

Blue balls is a powerful thing. Can turn the most charisma void person into he most charming person.

Once the load is blown, they don’t care about you anymore.

You need to settle for a person that is a 4/10 and decent human.
Guys will text you all day to get laid, but it's like a fantasy that they are giving you undivided attention that no one man can give you.

Then it disappears after sex but they always come back a few weeks later and the texting starts back up again. Every text gives you a dopamine rush.

No decent 4/10 human being gives you that dopamine rush unfortunately

Although now that my sex drive is going down with menopause I don't really care to meet them. I mostly just use them for attention and then flake on meeting.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
How can people honestly have a relationship in today's society when you get into an argument or your boyfriend or husband ignores you and there are white knights willing to talk to you all night so they can get laid. There are just too many options these days to be in a committed relationship. I try to explain this to my therapist and she doesn't get it.
This is why you choose someone you trust (and perhaps even have a conversation with) to perhaps talk to their close friends/siblings/etc when things aren't going well or have an outlet in the form of a hobby to clear their mind and who do not resort to getting attention from someone who wants to sleep with them during those times.

But you should practice what you preach too so if you're not gonna bother cutting off the WK's when you date someone, don't expect them to either.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Its not morally right, but not wrong either. Its morally neutral to fuk a sloot in a relationship. (srs). Doesnt make you a bad person, but sure as hell doesnt make you a good person either.

Something that most people would do, as in 90%+, cant be seen as bad, otherwise the vast majority would be "bad" and thats not how it works.
Weird take

Time to check your compass and views boyo
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