As a job requirement maybe, but you could switch jobs.
Evidently to be a Cop in Chicago you are not forced to get it, so there is that.....

Can't believe we're still getting this flagrant misinformation about the vaccines being ineffective or not stopping spread this late into the game.

Vaccine was 88% effective even during Delta's peak:https://www.washingtonpost.com/conte...-2744e4e25f2e/

Vaccine is close to 100% when it comes to preventing severe illness and death:https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/cov...om-the-states/


The only real variable or cause for concern here is the emergence of a variant that is more effective at spreading, and since the vaccine is not 100% effective breakthrough cases are inevitable. But this is simply severe binary thinking where something must be either perfect or useless.


Vaccines don't reduce transmission? Demonstrably BS. There are studies which show that vaccines reduce transmission in the community:

1. This study shows that you halve the chances of the unvaccinated returning a positive test when you pass the 20%, 40% etc. vaccination thresholds:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01407-5

2. Healthcare workers, once vaccinated, halve the risk of infecting their households after two vaccine doses:https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...275v1.full.pdf

3. Household transmission risk halved after vaccination:https://khub.net/documents/135939561...e-9c9b25a8122a


Vaccines directly contribute to herd immunity since you can't spread a virus anywhere near as effectively if your viral load is dramatically lowered and your infectious period shortened. Your risk of catching it is also lowered if everyone else is vaccinated.

As a job requirement maybe, but you could switch jobs.
Evidently to be a Cop in Chicago you are not forced to get it, so there is that.....

Same answers you've already been given: The statistics you replied to and quoted proved that vaccines are highly effective. Why did cases go up? Because the virus evolved and mutated. Meanwhile, unvaccinated people suffered the most as a result.

But we already know that they counted lots of deaths and hospitalizations that were not caused by Covid as Covid deaths and Covid hospitalizations. When you roll out hundreds of millions of doses of a highly effective vaccine don’t you think the numbers should get better?

But we already know that they counted lots of deaths and hospitalizations that were not caused by Covid as Covid deaths and Covid hospitalizations.

Huh? If covid deaths are being miscounted, that wouldn't cause the unvaccinated to die at a far greater rate. The miscounting would equally apply to everyone.

Your "counted lots of deaths as covid" claim is also disproven by facts. Annual US deaths in 2020-2021 were 600,000 higher than 2018-2019. Which lines right up with the number of stated Covid deaths.





The numbers DID get better... for the vaccinated. Seriously, right there in the graphs I posted earlier. And overall US death rates plummeted in the months after vaccines were introduced. You're making up fiction to argue with.

Huh? If covid deaths are being miscounted, that wouldn't cause the unvaccinated to die at a far greater rate. The miscounting would equally apply to everyone.

Your "counted lots of deaths as covid" claim is also disproven by facts. Annual US deaths in 2020-2021 were 600,000 higher than 2018-2019. Which lines right up with the number of stated Covid deaths.





The numbers DID get better... for the vaccinated. Seriously, right there in the graphs I posted earlier. And overall US death rates plummeted in the months after vaccines were introduced. You're making up fiction to argue with.

You do realize they blatantly told us that they were counting deaths with Covid as deaths from Covid, and they were doing the same with hospitalizations, correct??




2020 had ups and downs similar to 2021, despite there being no injections that year. Also, you are pointing out a specific snapshot of the timeline(when we also saw a similar drop the same time of year during the previous when no injections were available). Again, we rolled out hundreds of millions of doses and ended up with worse numbers overall. That doesn’t point to a “highly effective” vaccine being administered to the population.

There was a rise in excess deaths too you fuking muppet

Let me guess Wincel, lockdowns worked?

IDK who this wincel is you are referring to you mr "we gonna bring da k9 den", but no, they didn't work that well because our people are retarded. They've worked fine in China.

Sure they did.

I violated the mandates, the lockdowns, and restrictions. Should I have lost my job?

You keeping up with your boosters? Might as well shill for them as well......

You do realize they blatantly told us that they were counting deaths with Covid as deaths from Covid, and they were doing the same with hospitalizations, correct??

Let me guess Wincel, lockdowns worked?

Bizarre response to basic Facts that dispute your irrational anti-vaccine agenda... just change the subject.

Have you noticed the anti-vaccine crowd acts just like conspiracy theorists? Ignore facts and constantly change the subject when your claims are disproven.

Yet the statistics that you quoted, then ignored, clearly show a dramatic increase in deaths... which track with stated Covid deaths.





TWO YEARS is a "specific snapshot in time"? Of course viral response has ups and downs. It's irrational to claim or think otherwise. People come together, they separate, travel habits change, etc. And STILL, you ignore the clear facts that the Unvaccinated die at a far greater rate.

Yet the statistics that you quoted, then ignored, clearly show a dramatic increase in deaths... which track with stated Covid deaths.





TWO YEARS is a "specific snapshot in time"? Of course viral response has ups and downs. It's irrational to claim or think otherwise. People come together, they separate, travel habits change, etc. And STILL, you ignore the clear facts that the Unvaccinated die at a far greater rate.

Why are you so concerned about the unvaccinated when guaranteed you've had minimum 4 jabs?

Why should I get it? Real simple question.

Why are you so concerned about the unvaccinated when guaranteed you've had minimum 4 jabs?

Real simple answer, not sure how many more times I need to say the same thing:Because your risk of death after infection is much lower if vaccinated.

I'm only concerned with people spreading lies to support their irrational anti-vaccine agenda. Get a vaccine or don't, your decision really doesn't affect me at this point.

I'm only concerned with people spreading lies to support their irrational anti-vaccine agenda. Get a vaccine or don't, your decision really doesn't affect me at this point.

Real simple answer, not sure how many more times I need to say the same thing:Because your risk of death after infection is much lower if vaccinated.

That’s not true depending on who you are. The vaccine can’t help people who weren’t gonna die from it anyways. And if you look at the stats, anyone young and without 4 existing comorbidities, you faired pretty well.

Which is why vaccine kids and anyone young is absurd