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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

post 1667631133 09-10-2022, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
"But whatabout that other thing? Let's not talk about this thing. Also bilateral treaties between countries go poof when there is a change in governments."

Thank you Ivan, very cool.

China wouldn't do it out of the goodness of their heart, it's their own interest that their retarded neighbours don't go shooting off nukes and stay in line. They could just ask for/take Siberia as a reward.
LOL buddy Xi knew about this entire thing before it happened. Just lol if you think otherwise. I'll also add that their "bilateral arrangement" would surely go out the window if Ukraine joined the West and started sanctioning China. So why should Xi care about the Ukrainians? LOL
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Man, if only those Poles were in some kind of military alliance where members are obligated to retaliate in case an outside force attacks one of them...
An obligation that has never been tested and is completely empty when it comes to nuclear weapons. Treaties are pieces of paper. You should know if you're American.

SURELY THE CHINESE WILL SAVE US!!! SLAVA UKRAINIIII!

lmao

We all know how this ends bud.
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
Absolutely nothing. NATO barely exists. The nuclear umbrella was never a credible threat. It was always fluff. It makes no sense for America, France, or the UK to risk annihilation to protect the other countries.
Nuking a NATO country would provoke a reaction - and literally the whole world knows it. Not to mention it’s far more West. How do you think Germany would respond to a nuke going off in a neighboring country?
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Nuking a NATO country would provoke a reaction - and literally the whole world knows it. Not to mention it’s far more West. How do you think Germany would respond to a nuke going off in a neighboring country?
Can Germany do anything? Do they have nuclear weapons?

News to me.

Your plan was to back a nuclear bully into a corner. Then you will find out what happens, but I don't think you've thought it through. I think you think you're immortal.
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
An obligation that has never been tested and is completely empty when it comes to nuclear weapons. Treaties are pieces of paper. You should know if you're American.
Not American, so it's cool.

But please, go ahead and keep chitposting that nuking a NATO member of all countries would have zero consequences.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Not American, so it's cool.

But please, go ahead and keep chitposting that nuking a NATO member of all countries would have zero consequences.
Ask Henry Kissinger. He seemed to think so.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
American Marine who is involved in the war in Ukraine is Troy Oftenbecker (may be inaccuracies in the surname). Troy has military experience, participating in the storming of the Iraqi city of Fallujah.
How long will Washington claim that it is not taking part in hostilities?
What a weird post. Is this the newly emailed talking point from the Kremlin?
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
An obligation that has never been tested and is completely empty when it comes to nuclear weapons. Treaties are pieces of paper. You should know if you're American.

SURELY THE CHINESE WILL SAVE US!!! SLAVA UKRAINIIII!

lmao

We all know how this ends bud.
****ing lol

China backing Ucranian Nazis over a treaty

LOL


Cringe

This guy makes PukePissen look like a Caltech PhD holder
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Nuking a NATO country would provoke a reaction - and literally the whole world knows it. Not to mention it’s far more West. How do you think Germany would respond to a nuke going off in a neighboring country?
Germany doesn't have oil and gas to do ****
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Fun question for all the NATO lovers: If NATO were truly credible, why are deployed nuclear arms under the control of the US and not the host country?

LOL

Let me let you in on a little secret about America. To Americans, Ukrainians are also Russians. We are letting Russians kill Russians and jacking off to it. That's all this is. If we cared about and believed in Ukraine, we'd send our forces. We are just using Ukraine to hurt Russia.

And btw there wasn't a "change of government" in Ukraine. It was a coup. And the country effectively ceased to exist as it was. The new country didn't honor any of its agreements with Russia. And it leaned into US demands for how it dealt with China.
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Look at this copium FUKKING LMAO.



I think this might boil down to the Russian military being ran by complete fukking morons, as well as the corruptness of the the entire military itself.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
I don't have a good feeling about any of this. Something is very off.
You’ve been off since day 1 just like Macgregor. I bet you still think Putin is holding back on sending his best troops and the sanctions aren’t destroying the ruski economy
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
American Marine who is involved in the war in Ukraine is Troy Oftenbecker (may be inaccuracies in the surname). Troy has military experience, participating in the storming of the Iraqi city of Fallujah.
How long will Washington claim that it is not taking part in hostilities?
Washington isn't taking part. Some American (ex-military) have traveled to Ukraine on their own. Malcolm Nance is there and wants Russia to know...
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post 1667631903 09-10-2022, 09:44 AM
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Russian trolls are extremely hysterical today. Maybe they have to work overtime or enjoy some quality gulag time if they refuse.
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Originally Posted By SUCIO⏩
You’ve been off since day 1 just like Macgregor. I bet you still think Putin is holding back on sending his best troops and the sanctions aren’t destroying the ruski economy
Exactly, since day 1 he's been pro-Russia claiming that all news that Russia's operation wasn't going to plan was fake propaganda. Now he's having a hard time denying it so he's freaking out.
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post 1667632043 09-10-2022, 09:47 AM
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Ruh roh


Moscow Municipal Lawmakers Demand Putin's Resignation

"Municipal deputies in the Moscow district of Lomonosovsky have appealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin to resign, saying "everything went wrong" since the start of his second term and they believe a change of power is necessary for the sake of the country.

The deputies posted their protocol decision on the Lomonosovsky district's website, including a 30-minute video of their meeting on September 8.

In their appeal, the deputies emphasize that the aggressive rhetoric of Putin and his subordinates has thrown Russia back into the Cold War era. They disputed economic data showing a doubling of the country's GDP and said the minimum wage did not increase to the level declared by the government.

They also said smart and hard-working people have left Russia en masse, and there is no trace of the promised stability.

Addressing Putin directly, they said: "Your views, your management model are hopelessly outdated and impede the development of Russia and its human potential."

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A similar protest earlier this week by local lawmakers in St. Petersburg resulted in authorities summoning them to the police department.

Seven lawmakers demanded parliament's lower chamber, the State Duma, charge Putin with high treason over his decision to launch his unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.rferl.org/a/moscow-munic.../32027762.html
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Originally Posted By SUCIO⏩
You’ve been off since day 1 just like Macgregor. I bet you still think Putin is holding back on sending his best troops and the sanctions aren’t destroying the ruski economy
I posted a video a couple days ago by a non biased Russian who made a lot of very good points and basically said he was tired of hearing that everything is fine when the reality is the opposite.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Ruh roh


Moscow Municipal Lawmakers Demand Putin's Resignation

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Sounds like some people will be getting chucked out of buildings then. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
Sounds like some people will be getting chucked out of buildings then. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think they were already arrested
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
I think they were already arrested
lmao classic Chadimir
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
Absolutely nothing. NATO barely exists. The nuclear umbrella was never a credible threat. It was always fluff. It makes no sense for America, France, or the UK to risk annihilation to protect the other countries.
We (UK) would never engage nukes first nor retaliate for someone else, but if London was hit then we'd 100% hit Moscow back quickly imo. These nukes are all stored on Royal Navy Vanguard-class submarines and so Russia would surely know not to test that, even though their State TV are constantly threatening to turn us into a puff of smoke (above anyone else).

BTW I do believe that we should stay fully out of what's going on there. It also feels strange to me that Putin would send kind words to the Queen and again yesterday to the new King. Why would he do that if we are enemy #1? The answer could be that Western media are the problem. They don't like to tell the true story and would prefer to stick the knife in for those clicks.
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Gonna be a lot of sad ukrines in the coming weeks.
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Originally Posted By Rylol⏩
We (UK) would never engage nukes first nor retaliate for someone else, but if London was hit then we'd 100% hit Moscow back quickly imo. These nukes are all stored on Royal Navy Vanguard-class submarines and so Russia would surely know not to test that, even though their State TV are constantly threatening to turn us into a puff of smoke (above anyone else).

BTW I do believe that we should stay fully out of what's going on there. It also feels strange to me that Putin would send kind words to the Queen and again yesterday to the new King. Why would he do that if we are enemy #1? The answer could be that Western media are the problem. They don't like to tell the true story and would prefer to stick the knife in for clicks.
The western media? Did you ignore the countless videos of official Russian media saying they will nuke the sea to cause a tidal wave that will wipe all of UK out? Poots can have his people send words of love for the queen and all is good?
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
Gonna be a lot of sad ukrines in the coming weeks.
Why do you insist on being a complete fukkin retard? How mad are you right now?
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Originally Posted By Rylol⏩
We (UK) would never engage nukes first nor retaliate for someone else, but if London was hit then we'd 100% hit Moscow back quickly imo. These nukes are all stored on Royal Navy Vanguard-class submarines and so Russia would surely know not to test that, even though their State TV are constantly threatening to turn us into a puff of smoke (above anyone else).

BTW I do believe that we should stay fully out of what's going on there. It also feels strange to me that Putin would send kind words to the Queen and again yesterday to the new King. Why would he do that if we are enemy #1? The answer could be that Western media are the problem. They don't like to tell the true story and would prefer to stick the knife in for those clicks.
Because Putin wants us to stop being hysterical, understand where he is coming from, and help him end this war. He even thanked Americans for helping in WW2 in his speech. But ofc media won't tell you that. According to our media, Putin is the next Hitler when it is quite the opposite. He is fighting some wannabe Hitlers right now.
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wincel sure knows how to get the Ukie retard crew in a huff.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
The western media? Did you ignore the countless videos of official Russian media saying they will nuke the sea to cause a tidal wave that will wipe all of UK out? Poots can have his people send words of love for the queen and all is good?
They were just reminding the world of their deterrent. We do the same thing to them.
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Originally Posted By 6-SPEED⏩
Russia should be capable of taking out a weapons manufacturing location in Ukraine without a nuke. What does Russia gain by using a nuke?
An escalation by military doctrine. It's next in the event they'd start losing. It is an escalating warming shot. It's intent is not conventional in nature. The first step was already completed by the firing of a hypersonic at the Lvov NATO transfer facility.
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Cnn
in its first response to the gains made by ukrainian forces in the last few days, the russian defense ministry has said that "the decision was made to regroup russian troops in the areas of balakleya and izyum and redirect their efforts in the donetsk direction."

the ministry said in a series of statements saturday: "the operation to liberate donbas included a number of diversionary and demonstration actions marking the actual troop activities," and claimed that russian forces had "destroyed more than two thousand ukrainian and foreign combatants, including well over 100 armored vehicles and artillery in three days."

the ministry said the "russian federation's forces were reduced and redeployed to the dnr [donetsk people's republic] over three days," and had "opened heavy fire on the enemy in order to prevent incurring losses."

the ministry did not acknowledge any retreat from kharkiv, suggesting instead a planned redeployment.

Earlier saturday, the ministry briefing displayed a map of territorial control in ukraine showing that kupiansk and izium were still in russian hands. Neither city is any longer held by russian forces.
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Guess you just cant best the west lol

Anyone not seeing the writing on the wall at this point is delusional. Having an entire front collapse is a disaster and there is no way Russians enemies are going to relieve pressure after seeing a massive ceding of territory like this.

Paper bear indeed.
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