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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

post 1667644163 09-10-2022, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Where are Russia's 200,000+ men at? How does such a huge frontline crash so incredibly quick?

That attack was massive in the south. It may have drawn manpower same in DPR as claimed by Russia

Let me see. I'll be back in a bit to see how large it is.

I mentioned earlier we had seen massive amounts of reserves moving as well as the 3rd bn moved into Ukraine. I just assumed an offensive attempt in the coming weeks.

I think Russia is lying about why there is a void. Saying that they are moved to DPR
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post 1667644293 09-10-2022, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Imagine being one of the politicians in the Donbas region who pushed to be independent and have Russia's backing. Those people are beyond fukked.
Yep. Anyone with so much as a russian passport is going to be tortured and killed
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post 1667644433 09-10-2022, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Where are Russia's 200,000+ men at? How does such a huge frontline crash so incredibly quick?

200k men cant defend a front of this size. They have DPR militias defending the front with token forces that have to stall out an attack until reserves can mobilize. Thats why russia is fighting a war of attrition. Putin would rather eat the embarassment of a retreat than have his men die trying to hold ground that cant hold out for the 2-3 days it would take for reserves to get there

Basically the opposite of zelensky. He clearly gives 0 fuks how many men die for a PR win.

Thats not to say this isnt a real win for ukraine
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post 1667644863 09-10-2022, 01:59 PM
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post 1667645033 09-10-2022, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
200k men cant defend a front of this size. They have DPR militias defending the front with token forces that have to stall out an attack until reserves can mobilize. Thats why russia is fighting a war of attrition. Putin would rather eat the embarassment of a retreat than have his men die trying to hold ground that cant hold out for the 2-3 days it would take for reserves to get there

Basically the opposite of zelensky. He clearly gives 0 fuks how many men die for a PR win.

Thats not to say this isnt a real win for ukraine
Putin can stop the killing at pretty much any moment.
post 1667645143 09-10-2022, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Putin can stop the killing at pretty much any moment.
Why would he want to?
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post 1667645263 09-10-2022, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Why would he want to?
Can you not even remember your BS propaganda talking points one post later?
post 1667645373 09-10-2022, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
[ this is ] a real win for ukraine
That's right.

It's not just a win for Ukraine but for the whole world.

Meanwhile in Moscow, tents are tires are being brought forward.

Vickie is baking cookies near Red Square as we speak.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Why would he want to?
- gain territory over the span of several months
- lose it in a matter of days to the first counterattack

What's the point?
post 1667645653 09-10-2022, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
- gain territory over the span of several months
- lose it in a matter of days to the first counterattack

What's the point?
But don’t you know Putin cares about the lives of his soldiers so much. According to Stizzle.
post 1667645673 09-10-2022, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Putin can stop the killing at pretty much any moment.
Interesting how this fundamental point is lost on some. Deliberately of course, but interesting.
post 1667646573 09-10-2022, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
And what russian technology specifically do you use lmao?
Defeat the defeatist.
post 1667646753 09-10-2022, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
Interesting how this fundamental point is lost on some. Deliberately of course, but interesting.
because it's senseless masturbation.
Zelensky could stop the war too by surrendering just like Putin, and?
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post 1667647453 09-10-2022, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
because it's senseless masturbation.
Zelensky could stop the war too by surrendering just like Putin, and?
Really stupid comparison.
post 1667647593 09-10-2022, 03:04 PM
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Anyone from Ukraine can confirm that the average person there only makes like $300 per month even before the war?? Like how do they live on that?
post 1667647763 09-10-2022, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
because it's senseless masturbation.
Zelensky could stop the war too by surrendering just like Putin, and?
Is Russia being invaded by Ukraine? If not, your comparison is retarded
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Fukkin LMAO
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post 1667647833 09-10-2022, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
because it's senseless masturbation.
Zelensky could stop the war too by surrendering just like Putin, and?
What's the point of trying to keep up the invasion?

Almost 7 months in with nothing to show for it and the Ukies made more progress in 5 days than the Russkies in 5 months, separatists have self reported 50%+ losses, Russians have lost most of their best troops and equipment which they cannot replace, we're close to another mud season and US lend-lease will only start in October.

They have also managed to cut themselves off from Western tech which is deleting their economy and made most of the EU countries look for alternatives for Russian petro exports.

What is there to gain? Something about Crimea?
post 1667648003 09-10-2022, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
Anyone from Ukraine can confirm that the average person there only makes like $300 per month even before the war?? Like how do they live on that?
How the hell did you honestly not know that Ucraine was a **** hole that makes the slums of Detroit look like Monte Carlo?

If you thought Rasha was poverty then you better look up the socioeconomic conditions of Ucraine

How do you think chalup could afford his 'wife'

Anyways, at least your doing some secondary research so props. Don't believe anything you hear from an Ucranian. vermin of this planet
post 1667648083 09-10-2022, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted By kostapoulos⏩
How the hell did you honestly not know that Ucraine was a **** hole that makes the slums of Detroit look like Monte Carlo?

If you thought Rasha was poverty then you better look up the socioeconomic conditions of Ucraine

How do you think chalup could afford his 'wife'

Anyways, at least your doing some secondary research so props. Don't believe anything you hear from an Ucranian. vermin of this planet
Lmao someone give this varnik the suicide hotline #.
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post 1667648113 09-10-2022, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
What's the point of trying to keep up the invasion?

Almost 7 months in with nothing to show for it and the Ukies made more progress in 5 days than the Russkies in 5 months, separatists have self reported 50%+ losses, Russians have lost most of their best troops and equipment which they cannot replace, we're close to another mud season and US lend-lease will only start in October.

They have also managed to cut themselves off from Western tech which is deleting their economy and made most of the EU countries look for alternatives for Russian petro exports.

What is there to gain? Something about Crimea?
The point is what it's always been... to keep more land. Russia had a bad week but I doubt they are ready to give up all the land Zelensky wants (everything)
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post 1667648383 09-10-2022, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
to keep more land
For what reason? Largest country with the largest amount of natural resources on the planet. By far.

LPR and DPR are now completely depleted miserable chitholes just like pretty much everything they've taken besides Crimea, Kherson and Melitopol. Most of the towns/cities they've "liberated" are now just piles of worthless rubble pumped with UXO with their economies and civilian structures bombed to chit.

And what did it cost them?
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
For what reason? Largest country with the largest amount of natural resources on the planet. By far.

LPR and DPR are now completely depleted miserable chitholes just like pretty much everything they've taken besides Crimea, Kherson and Melitopol. Most of the towns/cities they've "liberated" are now just piles of worthless rubble pumped with UXO with their economies and civilian structures bombed to chit.

And what did it cost them?
Infrastructure can be rebuilt. Just look at what they did in Grozny. Place was leveled. 20 years later it's a great asset.
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my goodness
nsfw
tank getting blowed up
occupant hits eject
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...uzzian_t80bvm/
post 1667648713 09-10-2022, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
my goodness
nsfw
tank getting blowed up
occupant hits eject
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...uzzian_t80bvm/
Lmao!
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Can you not even remember your BS propaganda talking points one post later?
When did I say Putin doesnt want ukrainians to be killed? You seem to be confused/disturbed
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post 1667649083 09-10-2022, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Russia has lost most of their best troops and equipment. Really? Does the same apply to Ukraine? Even if we give a 1 to 1 loss ratio which is probably 4 to 1, they should at a minimum Ukraine have lost their best troops as well.

Do you really believe we have seen the best Russia can offer? I readily admit they've been embarrassed these last few days but to say their capabilities are diminished and cant be ramped up, just doesnt hold water.
What you're suggesting would be the equivalent of the US invading Iraq/Afghanistan/whatever with members of the National Guard riding Shermans and keeping the modern/cool chit back home because...reasons. And just continuously feeding troops and equipment into the meat grinder. What's the point? Why not pull out the top shelf chit on day one to overwhelm and break any sign of opposition, especially when the opponent is - supposedly - nowhere close to being near-peer?
Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
Infrastructure can be rebuilt. Just look at what they did in Grozny. Place was leveled. 20 years later it's a great asset.
Bad example, Russkies were sent home after the first Chechen war, still took horrible losses in the second one and have been pouring in ridiculous amounts of funds each year ever since then to keep them from rebelling.

Meanwhile they've somehow missed rebuilding Kaliningrad.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
When did I say Putin doesnt want ukrainians to be killed? You seem to be confused/disturbed
You understand plenty of Putin’s soldiers are getting killed too - yes? See above.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Do you really believe we have seen the best Russia can offer?
Yes. We have.

They're not hiding any secret, unused, game changing personnel/units/capabilities anywhere unless you've got some new info.

They're pulling shells from 6400 miles away North Korea by train, emptying prisons for new fighters, shipping rusted T-62's to replace their blown up tanks, greatly slowed cruise missile use for lack of supply, and are filling new units with old/fat/unfit personnel.
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