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post 1667784633 09-13-2022, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah
That's why touristic EU visas for russians needs to be stopped. Russian men and women taunted ukrainian refugees in Germany and Austria too.

Russians who want to flee from the Putin regime can still apply for asylum and citizenship. A russian from my thaiboxing gym came here after the war started. He's a highly qualified engineer and got here with his wife and daughter after the war started. He's already working as an engineer in a german company and is a nice guy. It's not about isolating the cool and smart people but to keep the dumb Vatniks out that hate Europe but want to spend every vacation here.



It was clear from the beginning that Putin would kill russias economy by trying to fight an economic war with EU. They only have energy as a lever and they need the revenue from it more than EU needs the russian gas. It was cheap and easy but it's not irreplacable. EU has technology, money and trade flows which are irreplacable for russia though.

Now it seems like Putin is going to let russian men die in Crimea in a war that's basically over already.
Imagine if Russia loses Sevastopol, their only warm water port/base.

Completely over for Russia but doubt Putin will let this happen without a hard fight...
post 1667784653 09-13-2022, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah
That's why touristic EU visas for russians needs to be stopped. Russian men and women taunted ukrainian refugees in Germany and Austria too.

Russians who want to flee from the Putin regime can still apply for asylum and citizenship. A russian from my thaiboxing gym came here after the war started. He's a highly qualified engineer and got here with his wife and daughter after the war started. He's already working as an engineer in a german company and is a nice guy. It's not about isolating the cool and smart people but to keep the dumb Vatniks out that hate Europe but want to spend every vacation here.



It was clear from the beginning that Putin would kill russias economy by trying to fight an economic war with EU. They only have energy as a lever and they need the revenue from it more than EU needs the russian gas. It was cheap and easy but it's not irreplacable. EU has technology, money and trade flows which are irreplacable for russia though.

Now it seems like Putin is going to let russian men die in Crimea in a war that's basically over already.
lmfao the delusion is strong

Russia hasn't even gotten started yet, bud.
post 1667784823 09-13-2022, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted By vatn1k
lmfao the delusion is strong

Russia hasn't even gotten started yet, bud.
post 1667785143 09-13-2022, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted By vatn1k
Surely Russia is finished now!

No more SWIFT

Omg!!
post 1667785183 09-13-2022, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted By vatn1k
lmfao the delusion is strong

Russia hasn't even gotten started yet, bud.
Russia is really bad if 50k of their soldiers died before they even started.
post 1667785213 09-13-2022, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021
what will be remembered is that you are a mentally ill, cow murderer that should be reported to some kind of government agency for animal abuse.
Originally Posted By LukeLissen
I'm gonna take some time off from this subject. I've got too many IRL duties to take care of and focusing on this is not something I should be doing right now. My favorite cow died and I blame myself for focusing on this crap instead of doing my chores as best as I can. Both on my Twitter account and here and elsewhere.

I may start back posting on this at some point but for right now I need to focus on my real world stuff as much as possible.

I still think 'Ukraine will win' and 'Putin's war will be defeated' but it's gonna have to happen without me for right now, and this is going to be a long conflict so my warning for all is to not expect a quick outcome.

Memcop and others - long term conflicts such as this are often not solely decided by brute military power but the political, economic, and social aspects as well. The outcomes of many wars show this to be the case. Good luck everybody and may good things happen instead of bad. My interest in this is and always has been the good people of Ukraine winning their fight against brutal oppression. That is what I have grown to love over these years - the strong people of Ukraine and their desire for a better future. Maybe they will succeed; maybe they won't.
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post 1667785303 09-13-2022, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted By vatn1k
lmfao the delusion is strong

Russia hasn't even gotten started yet, bud.
The cope of vatniks is amazing.
post 1667785443 09-13-2022, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted By dusky99
Proud Black man fighting for Ukraine

lol convinced to fight for a russophobic nazi state just so they can claim territory and ethnically cleanse Russians

fukking lol
post 1667785513 09-13-2022, 06:16 AM
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post 1667785673 09-13-2022, 06:21 AM
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LOL guess who runs ISW? That's right. Kim Kagan. Kagan? Does that name ring a bell? Why yes, her husband was one of the members of PNAC and the architects of all the warmongering we have seen in the last 3 decades. Pretty cool huh? Remember when Trump was talking about the swamp and the deep state? Yeah. The Kagans are part of that deep state. Surprise!

BTW guess who supports and funds ISW? Besides us of course? Why, you guessed it! Defense contractors!!! Shocking isn't it? FKING LMAO!!

INB4 2 shots to the back of the head suicide.

But naw, go ahead and trust their tOtAlLy ObJeCtiVe analysis of the situation. Surely the folks who brought us Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and a host of other fuk ups have our best interests at heart. They care oh so much about the American taxpayer right?

Who benefits from Black Sea encirclement (hint: Russia uses the Black Sea to supply Syria) and the destabilization of the middle east?



And they call it antisemitism if you criticize it. AIPAC has their hands up our country's asshoel. Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer wrote a fantastic book about this. Eliot Cohen, also a PNAC member accused them of antisemitism.

Just fukking lol

Oh remember Victoria Nuland? She's married to another Kagan btw. Just putting that out there.
post 1667785923 09-13-2022, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
Lol, no. 40 to 1 loses - just fcking lmao
You should watch the interview i posted with the american special forces dude. He seems confident ukraine can win but he's clearly frustrated by the russian strategy. "Every time we try to engage them they just retreat and bomb the chit out of everything".

Russia is taking limited losses because they're not really fighting, they're just firing artillery
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post 1667786093 09-13-2022, 06:34 AM
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Russian state TV is pissed by the footage of a Black man fighting in Ukraine

post 1667786173 09-13-2022, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted By vatn1k
LOL guess who runs ISW? That's right. Kim Kagan. Kagan? Does that name ring a bell? Why yes, her husband was one of the members of PNAC and the architects of all the warmongering we have seen in the last 3 decades. Pretty cool huh? Remember when Trump was talking about the swamp and the deep state? Yeah. The Kagans are part of that deep state. Surprise!

BTW guess who supports and funds ISW? Besides us of course? Why, you guessed it! Defense contractors!!! Shocking isn't it? FKING LMAO!!

INB4 2 shots to the back of the head suicide.

But naw, go ahead and trust their tOtAlLy ObJeCtiVe analysis of the situation. Surely the folks who brought us Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and a host of other fuk ups have our best interests at heart. They care oh so much about the American taxpayer right?

Who benefits from Black Sea encirclement and the destabilization of the middle east?



And they call it antisemitism if you criticize it. AIPAC has their hands up our country's asshoel. Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer wrote a fantastic book about this. Eliot Cohen, also a PNAC member accused them of antisemitism.

Just fukking lol
I will say they don't post inaccurate maps though they may take a while to "confirm" a non-liked advance. Otherwise theor analysis is adjective based editorial. Previous to this they'd be pretty decent at objectively reporting skirmishes as they develop, and, and the result. They do not do this any longer. They tell is how forces feel etc or otherwise post vague one sided ambiguous statements.
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post 1667786453 09-13-2022, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
You should watch the interview i posted with the american special forces dude. He seems confident ukraine can win but he's clearly frustrated by the russian strategy. "Every time we try to engage them they just retreat and bomb the chit out of everything".

Russia is taking limited losses because they're not really fighting, they're just firing artillery
No one is listening.

They don't care.

I've tried for months on end.

It's a non-stop OODA Loop. It should be clear that as of now Russia has no goal other than LPR/DPR Crimea with goals to chew up mobile forces with artillery on strong lines they cannot respond to.
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post 1667786523 09-13-2022, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted By memcop
I will say they don't post inaccurate maps though they may take a while to "confirm" a non-liked advance. Otherwise theor analysis is adjective based editorial. Previous to this they'd be pretty decent at objectively reporting skirmishes as they develop, and, and the result. They do not do this any longer. They tell is how forces feel etc or otherwise post vague one sided ambiguous statements.
True. Can't really spin the map that much. But they do spin as much as they can. They are not a neutral observer.
post 1667786613 09-13-2022, 06:49 AM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...es-ammunition/

Wounded Ukrainian soldiers reveal steep toll of Kherson offensive

"Winning"
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post 1667786833 09-13-2022, 06:55 AM
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post 1667786973 09-13-2022, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Procta
intredesding

That was with Yeltsin, who America spent millions to help get elected in Russia. (muh election interference) Gorbachev was told not one inch, but it was never written. There was an understanding that NATO would become largely obsolete or shift its mission. Then the Clintons came in and fuked everything.

And the Partnership for Peace's mission was not intended to be a front for NATO expansion. Jack Matlock has a whole discussion on this. We were supposed to cooperate with Russia and build a security framework for Eurasia. What ended up happening was some hard nosed people convinced Clinton that we could keep expanding and to dress up imperialism in liberal rhetoric.

Basically, silly Billy actually fuked everything. And it's been chit ever since with multiple different presidents failing to resist the Blob. Even Trump succumbed. If Trump were a smarter man, he would not have armed Ukraine. Obama, having failed in Libya, was wise to resist them.

Bottom line is this: multiple ppl in our foreign policy did not believe Russia had changed after the cold war. And to this day, they refuse peace. They have sought to antagonize them to validate their own misperceptions. Now they yell, "See! we told you!" when they made this happen. They bring about the horror they claim to fear. They are warmongers -- bitter chauvinistic hopeless and spiteful people who care nothing for this world.

Russia does not want to be our enemy, and neither does China. They were forced into this by our provocations. Putin tried for decades to reach out to us. We snubbed him. We mocked him. We disrespected his great civilization. And we threatened him. The coup de grace was colluding with literal fuking nazis and trying to screw Russia out of the Black Sea. We have betrayed everything the UN is supposed to stand for, and Kennedy's vision for peace. We are unworthy of the power we wield. The sun sets on our empire. Only a revolution in foreign policy can save our failing country and heal the wounds of the world before it is too late and the fires of war consume us all.
post 1667787223 09-13-2022, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted By memcop
No one is listening.

They don't care.

I've tried for months on end.

It's a non-stop OODA Loop. It should be clear that as of now Russia has no goal other than LPR/DPR Crimea with goals to chew up mobile forces with artillery on strong lines they cannot respond to.
Another one of Memecop's great predicitions, you must be a comedian in real life.
Originally Posted By Stizzel
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...es-ammunition/

Wounded Ukrainian soldiers reveal steep toll of Kherson offensive

"Winning"


Tell us bro how does russian copium taste like?
post 1667787403 09-13-2022, 07:11 AM
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Amazing to see people still swallowng the propaganda. You guys really never learn.
post 1667787903 09-13-2022, 07:22 AM
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Wincel the dimwit who is repeatedly on record for flat out hating his country and countrymen and hoping that the US "loses" this one barfing up Kremlin talking points.

Colour me shocked. In Russia you would have been gulag'd for far less, you mongoloid.

We're almost seven months in, when are the Russians going to REALLY start their whole thing, hmm?
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Originally Posted By ****inator
This is a victim of your """glorious""" army vatniks:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...an_near_izium/

Putin putting all those brainwashed poor russians into the meatgrinder...
Look at that face...


Literally orcs.
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba
Looks like now that terrortard tuckered himself out now we get "Stolen Valor" ****gy doing a shift.

Still can't stop LOLing at all they keyboard warriors running around like they didn't do anything but **** post behind a keyboard while a lot of people died.
How many shifts/people do you guys think run this account from Nigeria?
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post 1667788673 09-13-2022, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted By eternalnoob
Amazing to see people still swallowng the propaganda. You guys really never learn.
Yea very strange that westerners would be so susceptible to kremlin propaganda
post 1667788703 09-13-2022, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt
How many shifts/people do you guys think run this account from Nigeria?
Who do you think runs my account?
post 1667788733 09-13-2022, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
Yea very strange that westerners would be so susceptible to kremlin propaganda
It's not. Read into it, and you'll see Putin has a valid argument for this war. It was a last resort, and the US and Ukraine could have avoided it.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Another one of Memecop's great predicitions, you must be a comedian in real life.



Tell us bro how does russian copium taste like?
Wapo is now a kremlin source ladies and gemtlement

Fukin retard crew, please never change
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Originally Posted By vatn1k
It's not. Read into it, and you'll see Putin has a valid argument for this war. It was a last resort, and the US and Ukraine could have avoided it.
Yea of course lmao


Putin is just trying to help the ukrainians by destroying the cia chemical weapon plants in ukraine. What a noble guy.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
This is a good video.

I didn't sleep well because I was up watching this so late at night.
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Originally Posted By metroins
This is a good video.

I didn't sleep well because I was up watching this so late at night.
Mad respect for that guy putting his life on the line to do what he thinks is right
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