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09-16-2022, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
We share SOME of the blame for this. Putin and Zelensky also share blame. But it is wrong to single out Putin on this one. Sorry. There is the matter of the fundamental injustices in Ukraine. There is the matter of Zelensky refusing to implement the peace agreement. There is the matter of the US actively egging him on not to do so. If you're going to say with a straight face we couldn't have played this differently, IDK what to tell you. On the other hand, had Putin waited longer, it would have clearly been a massive strategic blunder that would have given Ukraine the initiative to build up its military and attack Crimea on its own terms. As the chief provocateur and sitting global hegemon, we should have carried ourselves differently and taken wiser actions.Vatnik “America is to blame for everything, nobody else is responsible for their actions or has any agency.”
It’s like a trope of the self-hating, hugely self-important, braindead liberal type that gives the rest of us a bad name.
And if you are Wincel, again, this is disgusting. Sort yourself out.
It’s like a trope of the self-hating, hugely self-important, braindead liberal type that gives the rest of us a bad name.
And if you are Wincel, again, this is disgusting. Sort yourself out.
09-16-2022, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
LOL another one exposedYou give yourself a "bad name", no one else needs to do it on your behalf.
Miscinbro claims to be a geopolitical expert possessing in depth knowledge of China, Ukraine, and Papa John's newest thin crust pizzas
09-16-2022, 09:18 AM
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Here is the analogy I would use to describe what is happening. Ukraine is the strong independent just turned 18 year old girl trying to figure out who she is. Russia is Jamal from the ghetto. The US is Ukraine's overbearing mom. Ukraine wants to dress sexy and wants to go out wearing 2 pieces of tape and a cork. Now, the US, as mom, should have told her no and to be more responsible. But what did she do? She sent her straight to the hood dressed like that at midnight. And what do you know? Jamal blew her back out and raped her in every hole. And now everyone is flipping out at Jamal. And Jamal rightly deserves blame for being a rapist piece of chit. But we knew this was the fuking ghetto. And we knew there would be people like Jamal out there. So doesn't mom have some responsibility here? Shouldn't mom have thought HMM maybe my daughter shouldn't dress like a whore? Maybe it would be PROVOCATIVE? "YOU'RE VICTIM BLAMING!" liberals would screech. "DON'T SLUT SHAME! She has the RIGHT to dress how SHE WANTS!!" And of course, she does. Technically, she should be able to dress how she wants and walk around at night. But are we all that stupid? Come on.
And then there's the matter of the nazis and the timer aspect of us arming Ukraine, which creates more justification for Russia's actions because it is that unique threat combined with NATO that makes Ukraine qualitatively different from the Baltics or Finland.
And ALL of that aside, even if you assume ALL of that is BS, there is the matter of Crimea being Russia's only warm water port access. Therefore, Russia would probably have gone to war over it anyway, nazis or no nazis. And we knew that. So why on Earth did we try to get them pushed out?
And then there's the matter of the nazis and the timer aspect of us arming Ukraine, which creates more justification for Russia's actions because it is that unique threat combined with NATO that makes Ukraine qualitatively different from the Baltics or Finland.
And ALL of that aside, even if you assume ALL of that is BS, there is the matter of Crimea being Russia's only warm water port access. Therefore, Russia would probably have gone to war over it anyway, nazis or no nazis. And we knew that. So why on Earth did we try to get them pushed out?
09-16-2022, 09:27 AM
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To absolutely nobody's surprise, the dimwit sheltered neet is fantasizing about black dongs and raping white women once again.
Could we please have out regular vatnikposters back?
Could we please have out regular vatnikposters back?
09-16-2022, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
You forgot the part where it was our fault for not offering up the white lady to the black dong because now it’s out fault he “had” to rape her (he keeps going on and on about how the US and NATO left Putin no choice).To absolutely nobody's surprise, the dimwit sheltered neet is fantasizing about black dongs and raping white women once again.
Could we please have out regular vatnikposters back?
Could we please have out regular vatnikposters back?
Just wow.
09-16-2022, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
WutHere is the analogy I would use to describe what is happening. Ukraine is the strong independent just turned 18 year old girl trying to figure out who she is. Russia is Jamal from the ghetto. The US is Ukraine's overbearing mom. Ukraine wants to dress sexy and wants to go out wearing 2 pieces of tape and a cork. Now, the US, as mom, should have told her no and to be more responsible. But what did she do? She sent her straight to the hood dressed like that at midnight. And what do you know? Jamal blew her back out and raped her in every hole. And now everyone is flipping out at Jamal. And Jamal rightly deserves blame for being a rapist piece of chit. But we knew this was the fuking ghetto. And we knew there would be people like Jamal out there. So doesn't mom have some responsibility here? Shouldn't mom have thought HMM maybe my daughter shouldn't dress like a whore? Maybe it would be PROVOCATIVE? "YOU'RE VICTIM BLAMING!" liberals would screech. "DON'T SLUT SHAME! She has the RIGHT to dress how SHE WANTS!!" And of course, she does. Technically, she should be able to dress how she wants and walk around at night. But are we all that stupid? Come on.
And then there's the matter of the nazis and the timer aspect of us arming Ukraine, which creates more justification for Russia's actions because it is that unique threat combined with NATO that makes Ukraine qualitatively different from the Baltics or Finland.
And ALL of that aside, even if you assume ALL of that is BS, there is the matter of Crimea being Russia's only warm water port access. Therefore, Russia would probably have gone to war over it anyway, nazis or no nazis. And we knew that. So why on Earth did we try to get them pushed out?
And then there's the matter of the nazis and the timer aspect of us arming Ukraine, which creates more justification for Russia's actions because it is that unique threat combined with NATO that makes Ukraine qualitatively different from the Baltics or Finland.
And ALL of that aside, even if you assume ALL of that is BS, there is the matter of Crimea being Russia's only warm water port access. Therefore, Russia would probably have gone to war over it anyway, nazis or no nazis. And we knew that. So why on Earth did we try to get them pushed out?
09-16-2022, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
It's our fault for sending her out dressed like a hoe, knowing damn well this mfer might rape her.You forgot the part where it was our fault for not offering up the white lady to the black dong because now it’s out fault he “had” to rape her.
Just wow.
Just wow.
09-16-2022, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
I think I get it.It's our fault for sending her out dressed like a hoe, knowing damn well this mfer might rape her.
Since you think you’re smarter and better than everyone else, but hide in your mom’s basement doing absolutely nothing it’s kind of logical to extend that mentality to the whole country. [1] we all suck so much because that makes your own sucking seem more acceptable, and [2] we, and by extension you, are actually reasonable for everything.
How sad.
09-16-2022, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Believe it or not, my view on this conflict isn't an original opinion. I've seen it circulated by very prominent IR scholars. Realists tend to agree with me. And many of those men have actually been to war and served in the military as well so...ad hominems against me don't change the validity of the argument.I think I get it.
Since you think you’re smarter and better than everyone else, but hide in your mom’s basement doing absolutely nothing it’s kind of logical to extend that mentality to the whole country. [1] we all suck so much because that makes your own sucking seem more acceptable, and [2] we, and by extension you, are actually reasonable for everything.
How sad.
Since you think you’re smarter and better than everyone else, but hide in your mom’s basement doing absolutely nothing it’s kind of logical to extend that mentality to the whole country. [1] we all suck so much because that makes your own sucking seem more acceptable, and [2] we, and by extension you, are actually reasonable for everything.
How sad.
09-16-2022, 09:49 AM
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Wtf where are regular vatniks like ikarzuz, slavbrah or this serbian devops guy when you need them?
09-16-2022, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
today russians learn that rotating a head 70 odd degrees from front facing changes the roundness of their headGosh his head sure seems much rounder than mr nazi
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bro go get laid, you're about 30% of the thread now. Also, 1/3 ukies is now a foreign mercenary, lmfao
reddit retard battalion is apparently more effective than you guys made them out apparently since they'll soon be the majority in the fight
Great MAGA King status
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09-16-2022, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
There's a direct full frontal facial shot of him as well posted earlier brah (I know you're into that sort of thing.). It's not the same guy. Look at the eyes.today russians learn that rotating a head 70 odd degrees from front facing changes the roundness of their head
AMAZIN
bro go get laid, you're about 30% of the thread now. Also, 1/3 ukies is now a foreign mercenary, lmfao
reddit retard battalion is apparently more effective than you guys made them out apparently since they'll soon be the majority in the fight
AMAZIN
bro go get laid, you're about 30% of the thread now. Also, 1/3 ukies is now a foreign mercenary, lmfao
reddit retard battalion is apparently more effective than you guys made them out apparently since they'll soon be the majority in the fight
09-16-2022, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
Your white women and black dong’s analogy was straight out of your head.Believe it or not, my view on this conflict isn't an original opinion. I've seen it circulated by very prominent IR scholars. Realists tend to agree with me. And many of those men have actually been to war and served in the military as well so...ad hominems against me don't change the validity of the argument.
09-16-2022, 09:56 AM
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We learned wincel has an IR porn fetish. Cool
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09-16-2022, 10:00 AM
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09-16-2022, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
I don’t think that Ukraine would have attacked Crimea even after 50 years, even before the start of the war.We share SOME of the blame for this. Putin and Zelensky also share blame. But it is wrong to single out Putin on this one. Sorry. There is the matter of the fundamental injustices in Ukraine. There is the matter of Zelensky refusing to implement the peace agreement. There is the matter of the US actively egging him on not to do so. If you're going to say with a straight face we couldn't have played this differently, IDK what to tell you. On the other hand, had Putin waited longer, it would have clearly been a massive strategic blunder that would have given Ukraine the initiative to build up its military and attack Crimea on its own terms. As the chief provocateur and sitting global hegemon, we should have carried ourselves differently and taken wiser actions.
we all thought that Putin was insane and crazy so he would use nuclear weapons or crush us with his "second army in the world"
09-16-2022, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Hnng seems like she's single when she's only missing her cat... Or she's a sloot.
09-16-2022, 10:22 AM
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09-16-2022, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
You forgot the most important part of her pageDon't forget to send money to this Nazi here
https://send.monobank.ua/jar/3bCbABKoYY
****ing lol
Filthy vermin. Can't wait till this Nazis is bombed
09-16-2022, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
not into men, women touch me. Id see how that doesnt line up with your world viewThere's a direct full frontal facial shot of him as well posted earlier brah (I know you're into that sort of thing.).
Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
It's not the same guy. Look at the eyes.

I dunno what to tell you, id wager at least 80% that these are the same people

Lmao is this the eyes photo youre saying looks different
Ya know ****, i bet you'll look different at 30 and 45 too (looks like its after a bender as well)...

STRESS DOESNT CHANGE HOW PEOPLE LOOK, NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE
Great MAGA King status
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09-16-2022, 10:57 AM
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09-16-2022, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
His eyes are so much rounder tho...You can tell it is a different person. The dude in the nazi pic looks german but the other guy is russian.not into men, women touch me. Id see how that doesnt line up with your world view

I dunno what to tell you, id wager at least 80% that these are the same people

Lmao is this the eyes photo youre saying looks different
Ya know ****, i bet you'll look different at 30 and 45 too (looks like its after a bender as well)...

STRESS DOESNT CHANGE HOW PEOPLE LOOK, NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE

I dunno what to tell you, id wager at least 80% that these are the same people

Lmao is this the eyes photo youre saying looks different
Ya know ****, i bet you'll look different at 30 and 45 too (looks like its after a bender as well)...

STRESS DOESNT CHANGE HOW PEOPLE LOOK, NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE
They also have a far more recent image of him, and he looks way different from the nazi.
09-16-2022, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Yep, I have two countries and I unashamedly support both.You mean how Iranian air defense shot down the Ukie passenger flight full of Iranians after the US merked Soleimani?
Diaspora cucks are always funny, you were full on British when Brexit came around and you tried dunking on the EU, now suddenly you're Iranian once again.
Diaspora cucks are always funny, you were full on British when Brexit came around and you tried dunking on the EU, now suddenly you're Iranian once again.
btw you have a fantastic memory lol.
09-16-2022, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
It's strange, Americans seem to think that no other nation can develop advanced weaponry.Are you talking about the drones with 4 duel stroke weed whacker engines?
I'm all about mil tech and NEVER underestimate any military's strength. The Iranian drones are not stealth in this case though they do possess the technology.
So no Iranians are not operating the wish equivalent of US switchblades. Though they are more lethal (payload) and run longer (larger fuel/engines) the technology is practical, not forward.
Shame I have to talk **** for you about your own weapon application ability.
Your general slipped up by coming on our battlefield. He was a coward and operated on the other side via militia but got overly bold.
I'm all about mil tech and NEVER underestimate any military's strength. The Iranian drones are not stealth in this case though they do possess the technology.
So no Iranians are not operating the wish equivalent of US switchblades. Though they are more lethal (payload) and run longer (larger fuel/engines) the technology is practical, not forward.
Shame I have to talk **** for you about your own weapon application ability.
Your general slipped up by coming on our battlefield. He was a coward and operated on the other side via militia but got overly bold.
Iran does not have the tech to develop advanced fighter jets, so they have focused on drone technology.
Iran has advanced drones. Whether they are the best or just average it really doesn't matter... they are good enough and more importantly they can make them cheaper than any of the other big drone nations.
Drones have become an important export tech for Iran and they will be sold to the opposition of America, which means you will always be at risk going forward.
You will always have only limtied air superiority moving forward.
Switchblade is only a simple hand launched drone. How can you compare it to the fulla rsenal of Iranian drones?
It's against international rules to bomb generals of other nations randomly. It's the actions of a declining empire
09-16-2022, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah⏩
She's taking care of her comrades, naa meanHnng seems like she's single when she's only missing her cat... Or she's a sloot.
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
09-16-2022, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By vatnik⏩
Create a plan to provoke russia to take action and then play the victim when russia takes actionClassic globohomo
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
09-16-2022, 12:52 PM
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09-16-2022, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Irrelevant. AND they were conducting military exercises across close borders.Was NATO going to invade Russia?
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