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post 1668163443 09-20-2022, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted By memcop
The bulk of Wagner have been the primary fighting force since the start by the tens of thousands. I'm not sure why diminishing statements are relevant because they simply are easily disproven. I don't like Wagner but they are a resilient and very effective fighting force. Who do you think wins the territory Russia loses?


I specifically stated the likely plan and the swelling between and around the cities, specifically the LPR sprinting between the two towards Soledar days ago. Russia can shift the fight back and forth between areas and I estimate they will but the bond between the two emplaced forces has to be broken to prevent defending attacks most effectively.

80% evacuated though I suspect more but the point is moot. They won't leave and impede.

Feel free to check my posts.
I understand this very well, they are indeed the most combat-ready troops in russia, not including some paratrooper units. i am in no way belittling their capabilities, but i also take into account the fact that their combat-ready units were transferred to the Kherson direction in mid-end august + starting September 4 they have had almost no success and shifted towards soledar.

But I mean, it's not the kind of force that consisted only of experienced and trained military men now (as it was in the first months of war). 50% are newly arrived reserves, sometimes even convicts from people that have only had two weeks of training and are immediately thrown into combat, used "as assault fodder" for breakthroughs.

But even this meat , it should be enough to seize the soledar in the next month and a half and come closer to bakhmut from all sides. I think they will not stretch their forces too much and will go straight to soledar (knowing the tactics of the Russians), but I сan be wrong.

Many people do not leave, not because they are waiting for the Russians to come, but simply because they do not have the money to rent somewhere else and pay the rent, there are also many elderly people who cannot be forced to go anywhere even under pain of death.
Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
lol capturing a tank really isn't the big victory you think it is lol.

Americans alrready know how to destroy Russian Tanks. Modern ATGM can easily take out a T-90.
I didnt say anything about capturing tanks.
I just explained the man which tanks are involved in the battlefield, and which are not involved.
Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
lol American arrogance is ridiculous.

I have travelled the world and the US is not even close to a top place to visit.

Russians are in thailand, bali, turkey and all over the world. Whats so goodd about the US; the palce is a dump.
You should just move to russia for a year (anywhere but not Moscow and St. Petersburg), I'm sure your opinion will change and you'll run back to the U.S.
Why do you think those Russians you've talked to admire their homeland so much outside of their homeland?

I have been many places, but there is no better place in the world to migrate than the United States.
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Originally Posted By memcop
It doesn't matter what you believe.

It no different than daring a gunman to shoot you in the face.

And I don't mean cum chalupa, don't get excited. This isn't a you got it in your hair situation as usual.
You mean daring a gunman that you and other 10 dudes are also pointing a gun at?
It's lovely, with all the "but muhh nukezzz!!!" that's coming from the state media, you just know the Kremlin is aware that the war is lost for them.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
Whats with this thread where Americans ar einsulting Russian culture. Russian culture is vastly superior to American culture.

The US is a dump, American culture is absolute garbage and the Americans are a low class low IQ people.

There are no redeeming features of Americans; where you get the balls to criticise Russians is beyond me. You are closer to animals than humans.
lol @ this butthurt vatnik. Got his mUH MiGhTyY RuSHaAAA ego deflated a little bit, now drivels a bunch of crap.

Check this orc's IP, for some reason I'm sure the location is United States instead of Russia. Or some fancy first world NATO country. Loves Russia so much, hates the West, yet lives in the Western country. Typical sh*thead member of the Putin's fan club.

US is such a big dump that migrants from all over the world risk their lives to come to America. I bet you if you offer those migrants a free ticket to Russia they'd happily run back to their home countries instead.
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Lmfao even ruski propaganda media can't ignore russian failure



Meanwhile Stizzel and co keep on coping lol
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba
Before long the retard crew is going to have to decide if they want to **** post or have a bit of heat with their daily hour ration of energy.
Hahahah keep coping vatnik

European gas prices keep on fallinghttps://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eu-natural-gas

"bu bu muh winter will surely help Ruzzia" cope/10

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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
Whats with this thread where Americans ar einsulting Russian culture. Russian culture is vastly superior to American culture.

The US is a dump, American culture is absolute garbage and the Americans are a low class low IQ people.

There are no redeeming features of Americans; where you get the balls to criticise Russians is beyond me. You are closer to animals than humans.
Meanwhile in your native sh*thole;

2500 dollar GDP/capita

Diaspora cucks are the most retarded, anyway keep paying taxes in the west to fund Ukraine cuckboy
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth
lol @ this butthurt vatnik. Got his mUH MiGhTyY RuSHaAAA ego deflated a little bit, now drivels a bunch of crap.

Check this orc's IP, for some reason I'm sure the location is United States instead of Russia. Or some fancy first world NATO country. Loves Russia so much, hates the West, yet lives in the Western country. Typical sh*thead member of the Putin's fan club.

US is such a big dump that migrants from all over the world risk their lives to come to America. I bet you if you offer those migrants a free ticket to Russia they'd happily run back to their home countries instead.
No matter how many times she and Hillary say so, disagreeing with Mrs. Victoria Nuland is not the same as hating the entire West.
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post 1668164453 09-20-2022, 02:10 AM
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You like banan?



2 more weeks
post 1668164673 09-20-2022, 02:28 AM
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Putin just gave a 30 minute standing press conference at the Shanghai Cooperation Summit





Bbbbbut muh cancer...parkinsons...dying of 20 diseases pootin!!!!.

Lmao
post 1668164923 09-20-2022, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted By ReppinHoes69
Putin just gave a 30 minute standing press conference at the Shanghai Cooperation Summit





Bbbbbut muh cancer...parkinsons...dying of 20 diseases pootin!!!!.

Lmao
I already linked that earlier
post 1668165473 09-20-2022, 04:01 AM
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Well he can talk in his pre arranged press conferences as long as he wants. Doesn't change the fact that ruskies get their asses handed to them on the battlefield.
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah
Well he can talk in his pre arranged press conferences as long as he wants. Doesn't change the fact that ruskies get their asses handed to them on the battlefield.
Pre arranged? LOL they asked him about something that just happened and he said he didn't know. Putin regularly goes out and talks to people and answers questions directly like this. You can watch our own interviews with him where he absolutely verbally rapes everyone. Go watch the FT interview or Megyn Kelly's. They didn't give him the questions. He just dumpstered them. There are also vids of people asking him questions on the spot right after conferences. Dude mogs. Just admit it. You don't get to where he is and hold power for so long without knowing your chit. He really is an excellent politician and statesman whose reputation has been maligned by the west. There is a reason he's the boss, and unlike most western leaders, he really earned his post.

We have a tendency to underestimate foreign leaders. Putin really stands out among most world leaders. The person I'd most compare him to in terms of his top down management style and analytical ability is probably Singapore's leader.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
Whats with this thread where Americans ar einsulting Russian culture. Russian culture is vastly superior to American culture.
Another drunk Russian on Misc.

Originally Posted By ****inator
You like banan?



2 more weeks
Maybe he's referring to the tens of millions of Russians killed directly or indirectly by their own government in the 20th century. Awesome culture!
post 1668166743 09-20-2022, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Phil9
Another drunk Russian on Misc.







Maybe he's referring to the tens of millions of Russians killed directly or indirectly by their own government in the 20th century. Awesome culture!
Americans talking about culture...

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post 1668167623 09-20-2022, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted By memcop
It doesn't matter what you believe.

It no different than daring a gunman to shoot you in the face.
yes but in this scenario the gun man is standing with his children and there's 18 other men behind me point guns in his face waiting... If a nation is at that level of suicidal anger to end the majority of the human species, taunting them seems to be a moot point

if i wrong we'll meet in hell though, America will likely get struck first so have a beer ready for me bby
Great MAGA King status

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Originally Posted By Muscle2021
****lians talking about culture...

Fixed
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Sig updated, relevant to this thread
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Originally Posted By merlen90
I understand this very well, they are indeed the most combat-ready troops in russia, not including some paratrooper units. i am in no way belittling their capabilities, but i also take into account the fact that their combat-ready units were transferred to the Kherson direction in mid-end august + starting September 4 they have had almost no success and shifted towards soledar.

But I mean, it's not the kind of force that consisted only of experienced and trained military men now (as it was in the first months of war). 50% are newly arrived reserves, sometimes even convicts from people that have only had two weeks of training and are immediately thrown into combat, used "as assault fodder" for breakthroughs.

But even this meat , it should be enough to seize the soledar in the next month and a half and come closer to bakhmut from all sides. I think they will not stretch their forces too much and will go straight to soledar (knowing the tactics of the Russians), but I сan be wrong.

Many people do not leave, not because they are waiting for the Russians to come, but simply because they do not have the money to rent somewhere else and pay the rent, there are also many elderly people who cannot be forced to go anywhere even under pain of death.



I didnt say anything about capturing tanks.
I just explained the man which tanks are involved in the battlefield, and which are not involved.



You should just move to russia for a year (anywhere but not Moscow and St. Petersburg), I'm sure your opinion will change and you'll run back to the U.S.
Why do you think those Russians you've talked to admire their homeland so much outside of their homeland?

I have been many places, but there is no better place in the world to migrate than the United States.
On either case this one will take a while for it to either be defended or either be taken. There seems to be a lot of troops remaining in the area from the surge. Lisichansk, Belogorovka, and other continued waves of Ukraine distract the effort. I don't see it being defended. The Eastern line is in artillery range and bounding forward. Maybe they break through, or stall. Seems to be a lot for forces there.
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"Russia's move to hold the referendums and escalate is entirely expected and appropriate. I only hope the west does not respond by sending ATACMS to Ukraine, or we may see a small mushroom cloud over Ramstein airbase."

things are getting spicy
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Originally Posted By Ikarsuz1337
"Russia's move to hold the referendums and escalate is entirely expected and appropriate. I only hope the west does not respond by sending ATACMS to Ukraine, or we may see a small mushroom cloud over Ramstein airbase."

things are getting spicy
ATACMS would end the moscals for good. They should hand them out to the Ukies.

Also what the russian stock market doing?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Liveuamap...96550251614208
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Originally Posted By Smithers115
yes but in this scenario the gun man is standing with his children and there's 18 other men behind me point guns in his face waiting... If a nation is at that level of suicidal anger to end the majority of the human species, taunting them seems to be a moot point

if i wrong we'll meet in hell though, America will likely get struck first so have a beer ready for me bby
Tac nukes aren't quite the situation laid out. US is the only one that can shoot back
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah
ATACMS would end the moscals for good. They should hand them out to the Ukies.
No. That's more stupid than you could imagine.

Some of you have got to get past momentary gratification
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Originally Posted By foXs
I don’t think you actually understand how possible the nuke scenario is, low scale of course.
That’s why I said even if Putin goes tomorrow, he will be replaced by another Putin. Russia is full of old Soviet loving men who would happily go to the extremes for pride of the country.
The further West pushes Russia, the angrier people will get, which will only escalate the likelihood of bigger war. It’ll just breed more Putins and the likes.
No. Many Russians are westernified and want a GOOD life not a "good" Russia. While you are correct there are a decent amount that think like that, not enough to control the entire Country.
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Originally Posted By memcop
Tac nukes aren't quite the situation laid out. US is the only one that can shoot back
The tridents from british and M 51 from french submarines would turn Moscow and St Petersburg into rubble before US ICBMs would reach midpoint.
Originally Posted By memcop
No. That's more stupid than you could imagine.

Some of you have got to get past momentary gratification
Why? The Urkaine already has missles capable of what ATACMS does. The moskva and the crimean airports got blown up with them. If Ukrainian forces have to agree to not hit russian territory what's the problem. Crimea and Kerch bridge will be hit sooner or later anyway.
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Based on Putler's statements today, we expect fake referendums, declarations of war, and total mobilization
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah
The tridents from british and M 51 from french submarines would turn Moscow and St Petersburg into rubble before US ICBMs would reach midpoint.



Why? The Urkaine already has missles capable of what ATACMS does. The moskva and the crimean airports got blown up with them. If Ukrainian forces have to agree to not hit russian territory what's the problem. Crimea and Kerch bridge will be hit sooner or later anyway.
Man cut it out and stay on topic. No one is nuking anyone. England is the size of NY state if nukes start flying it’s over for them.

POTUS or SECDEF has the final decision on where Ukrainian missiles hit. Moscow is the size of NYC lol at turning into rubble.
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Originally Posted By merlen90
Based on Putler's statements today, we expect fake referendums, declarations of war, and total mobilization
Total mobilization? Have a link?
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Originally Posted By Ikarsuz1337
"Russia's move to hold the referendums and escalate is entirely expected and appropriate. I only hope the west does not respond by sending ATACMS to Ukraine, or we may see a small mushroom cloud over Ramstein airbase."

things are getting spicy
Speculation is that if they vote to join russia it will open the door for russia to take the gloves off
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Hahahah keep coping vatnik

European gas prices keep on fallinghttps://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eu-natural-gas

"bu bu muh winter will surely help Ruzzia" cope/10

You seem angry. Aren't they only "falling" because Eurocuck governments are throwing billions at it? Billions that just lead to more inflation? Unless Eurocucks get more energy than they need this winter it still seems like they are in an energy hole for industrial production already missed this year.

The retard crew fixates on single "wins" and fails to see the big picture a lot.
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