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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

post 1668207573 09-20-2022, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By ujelly⏩
Check out playback of flight RSD8 from Moscow to New York on Flightradar24.https://fr24.com/data/flights/rsd8#2d896493

Why did this russian plane just land in New York?
in some ******** channels, people assume that this is Lavrov's plane
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https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...t-september-20

Has a good synopsis.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Remember when the retards called Zelensky a Nazi for banning men from leaving the Country?



What say you Vatniks? LMAO
P00ts gonna send 60 year olds off to fight the glorious “special military operation” soon. For the Motherland!
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Thats right. No more skeleton crew supporting ukrainian militias. The gloves come off and nazi corpses fertilize the soil for the coming harvest
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...t-september-20

Has a good synopsis.
That’s been one of the main sites I’ve kept up with stuff (understandable bias)
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...t-september-20

Has a good synopsis.
Russian forces and the Wagner Private Military Company are also directly recruiting from Russian prisons, as ISW has previously reported.[11] These troops will be undisciplined and unlikely to meaningfully increase Russian combat power.

1. Good chance they were once conscripts
2. Wagner PMC was an already deeply experienced fighting force (think blackwater -same tacticool vatnik veteran less rules more money for combat group) that can easily absorb non fighters and through frequency and pace have them fighting to standard in weeks or kill them if not.

I don't like ISW because they use adjectives to blunt bad news to the reader. Their job is to objectively assess and used to do it well. Unfortunately they weave the the bloody fight that Ukrainians have been losing as a rosey picture which helps this drag on as some sort of success.

You're a greedy type of dude. How would you like your market analysis to read like this? Zero predictive tangibles and comparative metrics showing short, medium, long term outcomes.

Just nothingness but shoddy gossip really.

War is verified pins on a map, footage, and strength. It is not opinions and adjectives.

If you haven't, you should try a few different Russian war milbloggers on ******** if you want to see what's happening. They tell the truth and prove it good bad or ugly from their perspective not what any side wants to hear often against Putin himself.

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post 1668209443 09-20-2022, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
That’s been one of the main sites I’ve kept up with stuff (understandable bias)
It's decent if you like extremely delayed mapping.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
It's decent if you like extremely delayed mapping.
I try to keep about 3-4 sources max - this thread being one….

That’s site is one of them.

This is another

https://www.aljazeera.com/tag/ukraine-russia-crisis/


And then my Twitter list

At the end of the day this event is in the back burner for things I look at daily.

I prob make more of a daily effort looking at broiler chicken output expectations.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
What happens when these referendums are literally blown up by home grown vigilantes? Think about it. A mass congregation of Anti Ukrainians consolidated in single areas. Talk about going full retard.


And we have learned Russian's CAN'T hide from American intel. It's basically check mate at this point.
If terrorists disrupt a democratic vote i assume russia will enact anti terrorist measures. It would be nothing new to them and its something they are very good at
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post 1668209923 09-20-2022, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
I try to keep about 3-4 sources max - this thread being one….

That’s site is one of them.

This is another

https://www.aljazeera.com/tag/ukraine-russia-crisis/


And then my Twitter list

At the end of the day this event is in the back burner for things I look at daily.

I prob make more of a daily effort looking at broiler chicken output expectations.
The potential for every chicken on erf to be flash broiled has raised. There are those concerned for you as I'm concerned about those starving Africans aljazeera reports on from the war.

But their not real people I suppose. Recipes are more important, not famine, nuclear war, world war, ukranian slaughter etc.

Sure Russians are bad but unless we war there isn't an alternative but to negotiate or death ensues.
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post 1668210133 09-20-2022, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Russia wouldn't be holding these referendums at this point in time if they were WINNING dude. They would be holding them once they were safely able to hold them without getting blown TF up. NATO doesn't need to get involved obviously Ukraine is doing fine without more boots on the ground.
Russia is absolutely winning but they probably accepted that its too much land mass to protect with just this skeleton crew. There will always be places ukraine can push in and murder civilians to say nothing of their shelling. But russian law doesnt allow for additional man power based on the defense agreement.

According to wikipedia russia has 2 million men in reserve and 300k in the national guard. If donbas becomes part of russia and ukraine attacks it allows russia to label them an aggressor and go HAM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
The potential for every chicken on erf to be flash broiled has raised. There are those concerned for you as I'm concerned about those starving Africans aljazeera reports on from the war.

But their not real people I suppose. Recipes are more important, not famine, nuclear war, world war, ukranian slaughter etc.

Sure Russians are bad but unless we war there isn't an alternative but to negotiate or death ensues.
I get it - but I also have to purchase a couple of tons a chicken every day.

Not to mention eggs- that’s even more important…..
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Russia is absolutely winning but they probably accepted that its too much land mass to protect with just this skeleton crew. There will always be places ukraine can push in and murder civilians to say nothing of their shelling. But russian law doesnt allow for additional man power based on the defense agreement.

According to wikipedia russia has 2 million men in reserve and 300k in the national guard. If donbas becomes part of russia and ukraine attacks it allows russia to label them an aggressor and go HAM
US and British Intel tipped the scale.

The exact thing I warned about Russia retaliating against long ago. They are probably very angry as it set them back months and billions.
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
I get it - but I also have to purchase a couple of tons a chicken every day.

Not to mention eggs- that’s even more important…..
Bet that ****s getting expensive
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
US and British Intel tipped the scale.

The exact thing I warned about Russia retaliating against long ago. They are probably very angry as it set them back months and billions.
These european trained soldiers are no joke too. Its literally a nato army at this point

Btw as a military guy maybe you know...if 2 million is the reserves that means much more than that in the active military no?
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Russia is absolutely winning but they probably accepted that its too much land mass to protect with just this skeleton crew. There will always be places ukraine can push in and murder civilians to say nothing of their shelling. But russian law doesnt allow for additional man power based on the defense agreement.

According to wikipedia russia has 2 million men in reserve and 300k in the national guard. If donbas becomes part of russia and ukraine attacks it allows russia to label them an aggressor and go HAM
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World War 3 is still unavoidable in the future if the barbarian Russia is not stopped now in spite of all their threats
Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Russia is absolutely winning but they probably accepted that its too much land mass to protect with just this skeleton crew. There will always be places ukraine can push in and murder civilians to say nothing of their shelling. But russian law doesnt allow for additional man power based on the defense agreement.

According to wikipedia russia has 2 million men in reserve and 300k in the national guard. If donbas becomes part of russia and ukraine attacks it allows russia to label them an aggressor and go HAM
For some reason 90% of Ukrainians do not remain on Russian-occupied territories or emigrate to "defender Russia".
Here we can already conclude who the murderer is.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Bet that ****s getting expensive
So is their feed….
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
World War 3 is still unavoidable in the future if the barbarian Russia is not stopped now in spite of all their threats
Who and how do we stop them?

Why weren't you prepared as a nation to fight such a power you stood up to?

We've already broken europe for at least three years threatening the split of the EU. What else do we do for a non strategic trade partner that all of our people must suffer for?

Your guys legit have nazi tattoos by the hundreds, nazi paraphernalia, pictures, parades and on. Your country partnered with Russias foremost hated symbolic foe and sent them to skirmish with ethnic Russians in the east. It's real and it really happened even if the rest of your country are great people.

I think you guys are painted into a corner and we went way too far. I expect it either ends soon or escalates out of control. You are now at the point of negotiation from a disadvantage. With infantry in any number the line swells north much faster. Though they may sprint east and connect Moldova first.

We fuked you over royally. We have children in charge here for the time.
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Originally Posted By merlen90⏩
World War 3 is still unavoidable in the future if the barbarian Russia is not stopped now in spite of all their threats




For some reason 90% of Ukrainians do not remain on Russian-occupied territories or emigrate to "defender Russia".
Here we can already conclude who the murderer is.
No chit, thats why only the dpr and lnr are having referendums
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...t-september-20

Has a good synopsis.
lmao "sham referenda"

ok totally unbiased think tank run by the Kagans...lmfaooooo
Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Who and how do we stop them?

Why weren't you prepared as a nation to fight such a power you stood up to?

We've already broken europe for at least three years threatening the split of the EU. What else do we do for a non strategic trade partner that all of our people must suffer for?

Your guys legit have nazi tattoos by the hundreds, nazi paraphernalia, pictures, parades and on. Your country partnered with Russias foremost hated symbolic foe and sent them to skirmish with ethnic Russians in the east. It's real and it really happened even if the rest of your country are great people.

I think you guys are painted into a corner and we went way too far. I expect it either ends soon or escalates out of control. You are now at the point of negotiation from a disadvantage. With infantry in any number the line swells north much faster. Though they may sprint east and connect Moldova first.

We fuked you over royally. We have children in charge here for the time.
well said comrade
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Against Russia if you used nukes? Are you kidding me? Again, who exactly, do you think will come to your aid? Or do you really claim Russia can make WW3 on its own?
Nobody is using nukes.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
2. Wagner PMC was an already deeply experienced fighting force (think blackwater -same tacticool vatnik veteran less rules more money for combat group) that can easily absorb non fighters and through frequency and pace have them fighting to standard in weeks or kill them if not.
i didn't think of it till you mentioned that, but i wonder how many of the prisoners are going to get the imperial guard treatment during training/ in theatre

"Executions will continue until morale improves"
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Originally Posted By theory816⏩
Nobody is using nukes.
The second russia starts losing, putinshills instantly start being nuke alarmists. Typically child minds.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
The second russia starts losing, putinshills instantly start being nuke alarmists. Typically child minds.
Avril Haines, the DNI, seemed to think that could trigger nuke use. But what could she know?
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
i didn't think of it till you mentioned that, but i wonder how many of the prisoners are going to get the imperial guard treatment during training/ in theatre

"Executions will continue until morale improves"
More than a couple. These dudes are well disciplined killers.

I've driven past convoys as well geared and protected as our own in obscure countries as a hired private military for a government as well as protecting Chinese nationalists. Own spec ops, armor, rotor, planes etc.

Rode around Africa with impunity. It was pretty wild. They get paid a lot of money. Contracts are lucrative.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
No chit, thats why only the dpr and lnr are having referendums
Kherson and zaporizzhya oblast too

But still, even if you take the occupied areas of Donetsk and Luhansk, where 90% of the people have already fled.
Do you think it is legitimate to hold a referendum there? isn't it funny?
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Originally Posted By vatn1k⏩
Avril Haines, the DNI, seemed to think that could trigger nuke use. But what could she know?
“There are a lot of things that he would do in the context of escalation before he would get to nuclear weapons, and also that he would be likely to engage in some signaling beyond what he’s done thus far before doing so,” Haines said.



But by all means continue doomsday prepping
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
The second russia starts losing, putinshills instantly start being nuke alarmists. Typically child minds.
The boogie man disappears when I close my eyes.
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Russians lose all nuclear capability because I'm pro-Ukraine.

Russia has about 2000 of these weapons. Some would be fired at Mach 8 and unstoppable. The stoppable ones flash and fallout over europe. NATO has 200. Short of hypersonic that onlt the US would have in development, S400 in killengrad, Ukraine, and in Russia to stop and fall over Europe.

Russia fires a tactical nuke into the black sea at Mach 6. What's our response?

Russia hits a small town factory that makes a self propelled artillery piece. What's our response?


Outside of stopping whatever we're doing and ceasing aid or peaceful/beneficial resolution to Russia. What choices are there?


So Russia comes out spraying 10kt warheads over Europe. We shoot a few dozen back?

I don't need to remind who here is the child when consequences to actions are not considered like when they say I will tactically nuke you if you intervene in my war. We intervene, we brag about intel use, they recoil... no one worries.

It's the twilight zone.
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