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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah⏩
Of course they would. It's only an exchange of otherwise large conventional tnt bombs with nuclear juice everywhere.I know the difference but I have trouble understanding what you're trying to point out here? Do you think NATO would respond with a tac nuke if russia drops a tac nuke?
Why would you think us/nato would fire in response mutually assured destruction? Both countries that have them, US/Russia, have tit for tat protocol and are gasping measures.
Maybe you haven't thought this out?
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09-21-2022, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Actually taking over Ukraine would be Russia’s worst nightmare. That guerrilla warfare when their military is already struggling. LMAOEU is becoming more and more like a NATO light with europe arming itself once more.
And sure Russia will do whatever it can but so will the west but you need to understan one thing, Russia failed miserabley at their most important mission, getting ukrainian support. Even if Russia captures Urkaine, it won't be able to keep it.
But of course Russia is failing hard, mobilizing unmotivated random russian men won't change this fact. Russia will fail and there's a big chance it will disintegrate.
One can all ready see the problems coming, Armenia and Azerbaijan conflict flaring up. Kazachstan turning their backs, the "Stan" countries becoming more hostile over old issues all because they can sense Russia is weak.
People are seeing the emperor has no clothes.
And sure Russia will do whatever it can but so will the west but you need to understan one thing, Russia failed miserabley at their most important mission, getting ukrainian support. Even if Russia captures Urkaine, it won't be able to keep it.
But of course Russia is failing hard, mobilizing unmotivated random russian men won't change this fact. Russia will fail and there's a big chance it will disintegrate.
One can all ready see the problems coming, Armenia and Azerbaijan conflict flaring up. Kazachstan turning their backs, the "Stan" countries becoming more hostile over old issues all because they can sense Russia is weak.
People are seeing the emperor has no clothes.
09-21-2022, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
I know that's your dream scenario, but the reality is very far from what you wish it was.EU is becoming more and more like a NATO light with europe arming itself once more.
And sure Russia will do whatever it can but so will the west but you need to understan one thing, Russia failed miserabley at their most important mission, getting ukrainian support. Even if Russia captures Urkaine, it won't be able to keep it.
But of course Russia is failing hard, mobilizing unmotivated random russian men won't change this fact. Russia will fail and there's a big chance it will disintegrate.
One can all ready see the problems coming, Armenia and Azerbaijan conflict flaring up. Kazachstan turning their backs, the "Stan" countries becoming more hostile over old issues all because they can sense Russia is weak.
People are seeing the emperor has no clothes.
And sure Russia will do whatever it can but so will the west but you need to understan one thing, Russia failed miserabley at their most important mission, getting ukrainian support. Even if Russia captures Urkaine, it won't be able to keep it.
But of course Russia is failing hard, mobilizing unmotivated random russian men won't change this fact. Russia will fail and there's a big chance it will disintegrate.
One can all ready see the problems coming, Armenia and Azerbaijan conflict flaring up. Kazachstan turning their backs, the "Stan" countries becoming more hostile over old issues all because they can sense Russia is weak.
People are seeing the emperor has no clothes.
Armenia and Azerbaijan have been going at it for a long time, and what about Kazakhstan?
Not sure how a campaign in Ukraine is going to "disintegrate" Russia, even if it fails. Russia, in any of it's form has been doing the same thing for 1000+ years. Your so called dream scenario means Russian people are going to let their country fall apart, which will lead to poverty, instability and a worse of a situation than after the fall of USSR. Not to mention losing a country, it's history and pride. Have it taken apart by the West and turned into a number or small nations. I am sure Russian people are on your side, ****inatior lol. What a riveting tale...
Every action has a reaction. You are cheering for Russia's failure in Ukraine, now you have a response. Strategies change day by day.
Like I said, what you have to understand is Russia is pushed into a corner and it doesn't want to retreat. Putin is going to escalate as he goes, and probably go as far as he needs to to win.
The only thing that can stop Putin is lack of public support. It's possible in long term but unlikely, because he will be replaced by another type, maybe even worse. Unfortunately Russia has plenty of these types who would do to Ukraine what US did to Iraq.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
Check the ban message for a response.Since you've repeated this known/identified false Kremlin talking point more than anyone else at the forum, answer this ...
Eta: We're done with that nonsense. I'll play along and take a jab but We're not going to do all of this.
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Americans don't understand how a real war is waged. They think a war is won in some dramatic fashion where they bomb their foes and just roll in. The Americans have only fought weak nations for the last 30 years.
A war is all about tactical advantages, time, funding and weaponry. The Americans have a very low threshhold for losing soldiers and they think that applies to all nations.
Whether Russia wins will come down to many things.
Russsia appears to have more strategic advantages in this conflict.
The key issues is the enudrrance of Ukranian support. How long can will fundign realistically last and to wwhat degree.
How many actual fighting men does Ukraine have and what is their rate of attrition.
I suspect Ukraine is losing a lot of its best fighting men and at some point will become a skeleton army.
A war is all about tactical advantages, time, funding and weaponry. The Americans have a very low threshhold for losing soldiers and they think that applies to all nations.
Whether Russia wins will come down to many things.
Russsia appears to have more strategic advantages in this conflict.
The key issues is the enudrrance of Ukranian support. How long can will fundign realistically last and to wwhat degree.
How many actual fighting men does Ukraine have and what is their rate of attrition.
I suspect Ukraine is losing a lot of its best fighting men and at some point will become a skeleton army.
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Originally Posted By foXs⏩
Putin is alreadly losing massive public support, the signs are already there if you take of your vatnik glasses for once. You actually think the average russian wants to fight Ukraine? For what? Imperialist fantasies of the manlet in the Kremlin? Lmfao, russians are suffering because of the war and sanctions.I know that's your dream scenario, but the reality is very far from what you wish it was.
Armenia and Azerbaijan have been going at it for a long time, and what about Kazakhstan?
Not sure how a campaign in Ukraine is going to "disintegrate" Russia, even if it fails. Russia, in any of it's form has been doing the same thing for 1000+ years. Your so called dream scenario means Russian people are going to let their country fall apart, which will lead to poverty, instability and a worse of a situation than after the fall of USSR. Not to mention losing a country, it's history and pride. Have it taken apart by the West and turned into a number or small nations. I am sure Russian people are on your side, ****inatior lol. What a riveting tale...
Every action has a reaction. You are cheering for Russia's failure in Ukraine, now you have a response. Strategies change day by day.
Like I said, what you have to understand is Russia is pushed into a corner and it doesn't want to retreat. Putin is going to escalate as he goes, and probably go as far as he needs to to win.
The only thing that can stop Putin is lack of public support. It's possible in long term but unlikely, because he will be replaced by another type, maybe even worse. Unfortunately Russia has plenty of these types who would do to Ukraine what US did to Iraq.
Armenia and Azerbaijan have been going at it for a long time, and what about Kazakhstan?
Not sure how a campaign in Ukraine is going to "disintegrate" Russia, even if it fails. Russia, in any of it's form has been doing the same thing for 1000+ years. Your so called dream scenario means Russian people are going to let their country fall apart, which will lead to poverty, instability and a worse of a situation than after the fall of USSR. Not to mention losing a country, it's history and pride. Have it taken apart by the West and turned into a number or small nations. I am sure Russian people are on your side, ****inatior lol. What a riveting tale...
Every action has a reaction. You are cheering for Russia's failure in Ukraine, now you have a response. Strategies change day by day.
Like I said, what you have to understand is Russia is pushed into a corner and it doesn't want to retreat. Putin is going to escalate as he goes, and probably go as far as he needs to to win.
The only thing that can stop Putin is lack of public support. It's possible in long term but unlikely, because he will be replaced by another type, maybe even worse. Unfortunately Russia has plenty of these types who would do to Ukraine what US did to Iraq.

https://news.yahoo.com/world-must-re...172100396.html
Russia pulling away troops from Syria, Russia failing to support Armenia, CSTO falling apart,...

And Armenia is pro Russia...
Border issues flaring up and Russia again failing to react
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/20/a...hnk/index.html
I didn't talk of thousands of chechens fighting for Ukraine...
The russian "federation" is doomed, so many regions want to break free form Moscow's control
Also lol I though you followed geopolitics? What's up with Kazachstan:
Some more info about how Russia is on the brink of disintegration and the many internal conflicts:
The ONLY thing holding Russia together is fear. But guess what, if people see how weak the Czar manlet actually is, it will be only a matter of time for disintegration. Russian people despite moscow propaganda are slowly understanding the emperor has no clothes.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
I think the US is on the brink of being split up.Putin is alreadly losing massive public support, the signs are already there if you take of your vatnik glasses for once. You actually think the average russian wants to fight Ukraine? For what? Imperialist fantasies of the manlet in the Kremlin? Lmfao, russians are suffering because of the war and sanctions.

https://news.yahoo.com/world-must-re...172100396.html
Russia pulling away troops from Syria, Russia failing to support Armenia, CSTO falling apart,...

And Armenia is pro Russia...
Border issues flaring up and Russia again failing to react
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/20/a...hnk/index.html
I didn't talk of thousands of chechens fighting for Ukraine...
The russian "federation" is doomed, so many regions want to break free form Moscow's control
Also lol I though you followed geopolitics? What's up with Kazachstan:
Some more info about how Russia is on the brink of disintegration and the many internal conflicts:
The ONLY thing holding Russia together is fear. But guess what, if people see how weak the Czar manlet actually is, it will be only a matter of time for disintegration. Russian people despite moscow propaganda are slowly understanding the emperor has no clothes.

https://news.yahoo.com/world-must-re...172100396.html
Russia pulling away troops from Syria, Russia failing to support Armenia, CSTO falling apart,...

And Armenia is pro Russia...
Border issues flaring up and Russia again failing to react
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/20/a...hnk/index.html
I didn't talk of thousands of chechens fighting for Ukraine...
The russian "federation" is doomed, so many regions want to break free form Moscow's control
Also lol I though you followed geopolitics? What's up with Kazachstan:
Some more info about how Russia is on the brink of disintegration and the many internal conflicts:
The ONLY thing holding Russia together is fear. But guess what, if people see how weak the Czar manlet actually is, it will be only a matter of time for disintegration. Russian people despite moscow propaganda are slowly understanding the emperor has no clothes.
Hoping for something wont make it a reality lol.
09-21-2022, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
That’s because you are an idiot.I think the US is on the brink of being split up.
Hoping for something wont make it a reality lol.
Hoping for something wont make it a reality lol.
Unlike the US, Russia has gone through numerous government overhauls and radical revolutionary changes over the last 110 years. It often doesn’t end well for the leaders of the previous regime either. Putin’s fragile body doesn’t have long regardless.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
Indeed, hoping Russia will win in Ukraine wont make it a reality lol, just like Iran becoming anything more than an irrelevant sh*thole LOL.I think the US is on the brink of being split up.
Hoping for something wont make it a reality lol.
Hoping for something wont make it a reality lol.
Iran GDP/capita: 2300 dollars... L M F A O
Meanwhile vatniks living in the west paying taxes to fund Ukraine, U mad?
09-21-2022, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
America is at risk:That’s because you are an idiot.
Unlike the US, Russia has gone through numerous government overhauls and radical revolutionary changes over the last 110 years. It often doesn’t end well for the leaders of the previous regime either. Putin’s fragile body doesn’t have long regardless.
Unlike the US, Russia has gone through numerous government overhauls and radical revolutionary changes over the last 110 years. It often doesn’t end well for the leaders of the previous regime either. Putin’s fragile body doesn’t have long regardless.
- America is only a young country.
- rapid demographic change
- significant differences in regional cultural values
- Dependance on high levels of debt
- Reliance on the US dollar remaining the reserve currency
- high crime rates
- high elvels of poverty
The US is not as sure a bet as you think.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
GDP per capita literally means nothing. You need to look at GDP PPP per capita.Indeed, hoping Russia will win in Ukraine wont make it a reality lol, just like Iran becoming anything more than an irrelevant sh*thole LOL.
Iran GDP/capita: 2300 dollars... L M F A O
Meanwhile vatniks living in the west paying taxes to fund Ukraine, U mad?
Iran GDP/capita: 2300 dollars... L M F A O
Meanwhile vatniks living in the west paying taxes to fund Ukraine, U mad?
Regardless, having a high GDP PPP per capita is a double edged sword.
I'm not mad, as long as the US is dispalced as the world's number 1 economic power I am happy and we're on course for that.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
You only get to pick one.Americans don't understand how a real war is waged.
A war is all about tactical advantages, time, funding and weaponry.
A war is all about tactical advantages, time, funding and weaponry.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Maybe you haven't. Dropping a tac nuke on russia makes no sense. For russia it would also make no sense to drop a tac nuke over NATO territory. They could drop one over Ukraine but NATO would never respond with dropping one over russian territory.Of course they would. It's only an exchange of otherwise large conventional tnt bombs with nuclear juice everywhere.
Why would you think us/nato would fire in response mutually assured destruction? Both countries that have them, US/Russia, have tit for tat protocol and are gasping measures.
Maybe you haven't thought this out?
Why would you think us/nato would fire in response mutually assured destruction? Both countries that have them, US/Russia, have tit for tat protocol and are gasping measures.
Maybe you haven't thought this out?
NATO would either go into Ukraine with combined arms and pulverize every russian opponent in a few days or they go for a decapitation strike on Russia and that would mean more than a tac nuke.
09-21-2022, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Once again, what does tiny nations of Armenia and Azerbaijan have to do with anything? We should all prepare for Russia's disintegration because US general said so? He must not be bias, why would a general of your enemy be bias, right lol?. You're no different than these RT bots that eat up the propaganda from the other side. Allies come and go, it's geopolitics.Blah blah blah
Not that you are listening, I told you already that it's not black and white. It's not about just Ukraine, but geopolitics and long term goals. America is at Russia's doorstep, you either fight or you get taken care of, just every other nation did that stood against the might USA. Everybody in Russia knows what US does overseas and what their plans are. If you think Russians won't answer, just surrender and take it up the ass, you got it all wrong. I told you, Russian people are a stubborn bunch.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Why?You only get to pick one.
Americans were making a lot of jokes about Iranian drones and North Korean artillery.
They don't reallise the impact these will have on the battlefield. They just assume their weapons are superior.
Like I said; you don't have a realistic view on the strategic advantages of Russia.
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah⏩
And the end of America with about 200 million dead within 6 mins.Maybe you haven't. Dropping a tac nuke on russia makes no sense. For russia it would also make no sense to drop a tac nuke over NATO territory. They could drop one over Ukraine but NATO would never respond with dropping one over russian territory.
NATO would either go into Ukraine with combined arms and pulverize every russian opponent in a few days or they go for a decapitation strike on Russia and that would mean more than a tac nuke.
NATO would either go into Ukraine with combined arms and pulverize every russian opponent in a few days or they go for a decapitation strike on Russia and that would mean more than a tac nuke.
09-21-2022, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
I keep seeing this line everywhere.Meanwhile vatniks living in the west paying taxes to fund Ukraine, U mad?
Now compare vatnik taxes that are going to Ukraine versus the money that you are sending Russia for all of it's resources that are paying for the war in Ukraine. And remember how much the prices have increased in the last 6 months or so. I am pretty sure you are paying more than a fraction of anyone's tax....
Food for thought.
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So many low IQ garbage posts on here that I completely missed this since I was busy last night
euronews
300k more soldiers added to the grinder... fuark
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Russia will enforce a partial mobilisation of its citizens to further support the war in Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin said in a much-expected pre-recorded speech on Wednesday morning.
The mobilisation, effective immediately, will affect army reserves and those who had previously served in Russia's armed forces.
"We are talking about partial mobilisation, that is, only citizens who are currently in the reserve will be subject to conscription, and above all, those who served in the armed forces and have a certain military speciality and relevant experience," Putin stressed.
Russia is believed to have up to 2 million reservists, but only a fraction receive refresher training regularly. The partial mobilisation decree might see some 300,000 former active units called into action against Ukraine, however.
edit: oh luke posted about itThe mobilisation, effective immediately, will affect army reserves and those who had previously served in Russia's armed forces.
"We are talking about partial mobilisation, that is, only citizens who are currently in the reserve will be subject to conscription, and above all, those who served in the armed forces and have a certain military speciality and relevant experience," Putin stressed.
Russia is believed to have up to 2 million reservists, but only a fraction receive refresher training regularly. The partial mobilisation decree might see some 300,000 former active units called into action against Ukraine, however.
300k more soldiers added to the grinder... fuark
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah⏩
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.Maybe you haven't. Dropping a tac nuke on russia makes no sense. For russia it would also make no sense to drop a tac nuke over NATO territory. They could drop one over Ukraine but NATO would never respond with dropping one over russian territory.
NATO would either go into Ukraine with combined arms and pulverize every russian opponent in a few days or they go for a decapitation strike on Russia and that would mean more than a tac nuke.
NATO would either go into Ukraine with combined arms and pulverize every russian opponent in a few days or they go for a decapitation strike on Russia and that would mean more than a tac nuke.
Holy **** lol
I guess this explains where we are in a nutshell
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Originally Posted By vatn1k⏩
It will probably be the end for everyone on this planet.And the end of America with about 200 million dead within 6 mins.
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rotfl everything going well huh
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The German authorities have agreed to nationalise Uniper, the country’s largest natural gas importer, as part of efforts to keep the industry afloat amid the energy crunch, the company announced on Wednesday morning.
According to separate statements released by Uniper and Fortum, its Finnish parent company, Berlin will also invest €8 billion ($8 billion) via a capital increase at €1.70 per share to ensure the company's survival ahead of winter.
According to separate statements released by Uniper and Fortum, its Finnish parent company, Berlin will also invest €8 billion ($8 billion) via a capital increase at €1.70 per share to ensure the company's survival ahead of winter.
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Originally Posted By foXs⏩
28bnI keep seeing this line everywhere.
Now compare vatnik taxes that are going to Ukraine versus the money that you are sending Russia for all of it's resources that are paying for the war in Ukraine. And remember how much the prices have increased in the last 6 months or so. I am pretty sure you are paying more than a fraction of anyone's tax....
Food for thought.
Now compare vatnik taxes that are going to Ukraine versus the money that you are sending Russia for all of it's resources that are paying for the war in Ukraine. And remember how much the prices have increased in the last 6 months or so. I am pretty sure you are paying more than a fraction of anyone's tax....
Food for thought.
Fuel also coming in. We call it "winding down." Metals, rubber, grain, fertilizer etc. Trade still going strong. EU catching the dongle.
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Originally Posted By foXs⏩
No arguments found, such is the vatnik way of discussion. Jokes on me for actually showing actual evidence and sources for my claims...Once again, what does tiny nations of Armenia and Azerbaijan have to do with anything? We should all prepare for Russia's disintegration because US general said so? He must not be bias, why would a general of your enemy be bias, right lol?. You're no different than these RT bots that eat up the propaganda from the other side. Allies come and go, it's geopolitics.
Not that you are listening, I told you already that it's not black and white. It's not about just Ukraine, but geopolitics and long term goals. America is at Russia's doorstep, you either fight or you get taken care of, just every other nation did that stood against the might USA. Everybody in Russia knows what US does overseas and what their plans are. If you think Russians won't answer, just surrender and take it up the ass, you got it all wrong. I told you, Russian people are a stubborn bunch.
Not that you are listening, I told you already that it's not black and white. It's not about just Ukraine, but geopolitics and long term goals. America is at Russia's doorstep, you either fight or you get taken care of, just every other nation did that stood against the might USA. Everybody in Russia knows what US does overseas and what their plans are. If you think Russians won't answer, just surrender and take it up the ass, you got it all wrong. I told you, Russian people are a stubborn bunch.
You're ignoring all signs going against your biases, oh well just like vatniks already claimed Ukraine would fall in 2 weeks at the start of this war
Originally Posted By foXs⏩
You do know russians are having a worse time with inflation than the west right? And no you're wrong, the income of Russia is declinig very fast. Also Russia is selling gas and oil at discounts now.I keep seeing this line everywhere.
Now compare vatnik taxes that are going to Ukraine versus the money that you are sending Russia for all of it's resources that are paying for the war in Ukraine. And remember how much the prices have increased in the last 6 months or so. I am pretty sure you are paying more than a fraction of anyone's tax....
Food for thought.
Now compare vatnik taxes that are going to Ukraine versus the money that you are sending Russia for all of it's resources that are paying for the war in Ukraine. And remember how much the prices have increased in the last 6 months or so. I am pretty sure you are paying more than a fraction of anyone's tax....
Food for thought.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-r...-idUSKCN24I2FP
Anyway keep paying your taxes to fund Ukraine bro.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
US defense arn 't going to get any more money. It hiliariuos that the US thought Russia got exposed. It was actually the US that got exposed.US defense contractors probably have a hard on right now thinking about the next wave of cash. Don't feel sorry for the poor vatniks , we're all gonna be in the chitter if this keeps escalating. Probably looking at another 100k Ukrainians dead and and Russia winning unless nato steps in
Trillions spend over the decades but they couldn't do anything to big boy Poutine.
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09-21-2022, 03:48 AM
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09-21-2022, 03:50 AM
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#3476
Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Interesting. Hopefully taliban could bring some anti-west ruling to the moskals if russistan were to go down. InshallahMust watch, great summary by an actualy general:
Cliffs: it's the beginning of the end for Ruzzia
Cliffs: it's the beginning of the end for Ruzzia
09-21-2022, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Skylinerd1⏩
Not the first time you've believed bullsht.Thats bullchit but I believe it.
My personal pronouns are: Don't talk to me/Fck off
09-21-2022, 03:57 AM
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#3478
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Originally Posted By theory816⏩
Not sure if srs.US defense arn 't going to get any more money. It hiliariuos that the US thought Russia got exposed. It was actually the US that got exposed.
Trillions spend over the decades but they couldn't do anything to big boy Poutine.
Trillions spend over the decades but they couldn't do anything to big boy Poutine.
One, stuff that has already been shipped over - which is mostly 80s tech that has been collecting dust - will be replaced with newer toys. Two, now that the whole world has seen that Russia's military products aren't worth chit, everyone and their mothers will be lining up for Western tech.
09-21-2022, 04:07 AM
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There's news in german papers that russian opposion party wesna is invoking citizens to protest the mobilization
https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/...ste-opposition
https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/...ste-opposition
09-21-2022, 04:10 AM
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#3480
Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Much of the budget on US isn't used to buy toys, rather it is used to maintain - fuel, wages, raw materials, food, maintenance, building - all of these cost a lot of money, qweer bait. And since the US military proved that they arn't of much use against a even a much weaker country like Russia, they arn't getting any new contracts. If anything, there will be major budjet cuts.Not sure if srs.
One, stuff that has already been shipped over - which is mostly 80s tech that has been collecting dust - will be replaced with newer toys. Two, now that the whole world has seen that Russia's military products aren't worth chit, everyone and their mothers will be lining up for Western tech.
One, stuff that has already been shipped over - which is mostly 80s tech that has been collecting dust - will be replaced with newer toys. Two, now that the whole world has seen that Russia's military products aren't worth chit, everyone and their mothers will be lining up for Western tech.
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