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post 1668926143 10-04-2022, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
Fanboi detected
Not a fanboy but I do enjoy a good show where you have to use your brain and remember things. Another show just like that would be House of Cards, as I like to call it, the game of mental chess. Sounds like Marvel shows are more your type.
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post 1668926403 10-04-2022, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By SazabiBrah
All I know is this show is 1000x better than the House of the Dragon
U wot

They're pretty equal in terms of entertainment, and both significantly less entertaining than the legacy films and shows they are based off of.
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post 1668926443 10-04-2022, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah
It’s not even that. It’s a terrible show from top to bottom, even if we don’t factor in Tolkien fanboy chit or wokeness. The pacing is utter balls, the characters and casting are dire (is ANYONE likeable in the show? Durin, maybe? The bad guys?), the dialogue is atrocious, and the acting is hammy and melodramatic in every scene.

I’m watching it and I find I don’t care for anyone or anything. Actually that’s a lie, I do find myself hoping that Galadriel dies slowly and painfully. Weird thing is I’m fairly sure she’s not meant to be the villain of the show.

It’s actually quite shocking how bad it is.
You're welcome to develop your own show and perhaps do it the right way. But as with everyone who likes to complain and trash anything remotely with substance these days won't do anything about it. Or...just don't watch it?
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post 1668926593 10-04-2022, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier
How does that seem wrong? TF are you talking about?
The orcs just want somewhere to live and do orc stuff

Why is that a reason to kill them
post 1668926683 10-04-2022, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted By SouthDakotaBrah
I grew up reading LOTR books, watching the LOTR movies, and I even played LOTRO for several years... so LOTR is pretty significant to me and I've been waiting for a new movie/show for a long time now.

But Rings of Power is absolute fuking trash (srs). I think it's a stretch to even say that Rings of Power is in any way at all related to LOTR (100% srs)

Rings of Power feels more like part of a broader political propaganda campaign than a show meant for entertainment. It's simply not entertaining. I wouldn't be half-surprised if Sauron ended up being a tranny (100% srs).
Assuming the show goes for a few seasons it's going to take time to start seeing the ties into LOTR, can already see them if you learn to look and think into what's being shown or talked about. Unless you'd like them to take 3 seasons worth of material and slam it out in 10 episodes and then complain about it the same way everyone complained about GOT being rushed.
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post 1668927183 10-04-2022, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah
I do find myself hoping that Galadriel dies slowly and painfully.Weird thing is I’m fairly sure she’s not meant to be the villain of the show.
Bro, have you seen the LOTR movies, or like know anything about the story? I got some bad news 4 u
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post 1668927853 10-04-2022, 03:19 PM
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Haven't watched, the trailers already made it look trash and thats not even because of the woke crap they've inserted in.

Sounds like this show follows established canon less than the Shadow game series. The movies change a ton of stuff from the books as well but follow the general plot line fairly well.
This supposedly takes place during the 2nd age. That entire plot point of the 2nd age in the Silmarillion is about the rise and fall of Numenor and the noontide of the elves, having most of their old lands destroyed at the end of the first age.
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
Basically a tribe of people (Elves)
Part of the tribe splits off to form a new tribe (Uruk) to follow a new prophet (Morgot or whutevs)
-original group now considers the lost tribe (Uruk) to be a different race
-two tribes get into long running dispute about who is entitled to live in their ancestral lands
-third party (Numenor) at the request of Elves comes in to impose a solution on who should live in said lands
-tribes and their allies commit various atrocities to try and assert claim to land

Is that about right?
So, this is no joke.....that's the story of jews.

Is the writer jewish?

In the story, Abraham had a wife and all of their kids are jews. Abraham took a second wife but the first wife couldn't stand it, so he sent her away.

The second wife ended up having what are today Arabs.

So, that is the LOTR story now.

You have the "holy people" elves and the unholy Uruk, who are related to elves, and they are trying to control a land.

We have "Holy jews" and then the "Jewish spawn Arabs" and they are fighting for Israel.

I would not be surprised and an of course disgusted.
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
The orcs just want somewhere to live and do orc stuff

Why is that a reason to kill them
I was wondering - imagine the Elves had left and Sauron conquered all. Then what? I mean, eradicate humans/dwarves/elves, and all then that remains is under Sauron's domain.

What is it they want to do? Doesn't seem like they derive any pleasure in anything but killing the aforementioned.

Whereas if I was an elf...I could live 10,000 years smashing. Elves do smash, right? lol
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
The orcs just want somewhere to live and do orc stuff

Why is that a reason to kill them
The orcs are creations like organic weapons, they don't have families and things like that.

So, they could never desire anything good.
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
I was wondering - imagine the Elves had left and Sauron conquered all. Then what? I mean, eradicate humans/dwarves/elves, and all then that remains is under Sauron's domain.

What is it they want to do? Doesn't seem like they derive any pleasure in anything but killing the aforementioned.

Whereas if I was an elf...I could live 10,000 years smashing. Elves do smash, right? lol
All they know is fighting

How would you know if they have interests other than war if all their lives they were slaves

Maybe in the absence of that they’d develop a rich culture
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
All they know is fighting

How would you know if they have interests other than war if all their lives they were slaves

Maybe in the absence of that they’d develop a rich culture
They are creations of evil as if they were walking talking viruses created in a lab.

On top of that they are retarded.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
They are creations of evil as if they were walking talking viruses created in a lab.

On top of that they are retarded.
True.
They didn't even have a spoken or written language. The could barely communicate.
This is why Sauorn (I think it was him, not Melkor) created the black speech of Mordor.
So, the orc brahs could take orders and talk to each other.
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Originally Posted By CementPizza
True.
They didn't even have a spoken or written language. The could barely communicate.
This is why Sauorn (I think it was him, not Melkor) created the black speech of Mordor.
So, the orc brahs could take orders and talk to each other.
So basically they just needed access to education and they could in fact communicate

Lol at trying to blame generations of entrenched societal disadvantage on lack of intelligence
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
So, this is no joke.....that's the story of jews.

Is the writer jewish?

In the story, Abraham had a wife and all of their kids are jews. Abraham took a second wife but the first wife couldn't stand it, so he sent her away.

The second wife ended up having what are today Arabs.

So, that is the LOTR story now.

You have the "holy people" elves and the unholy Uruk, who are related to elves, and they are trying to control a land.

We have "Holy jews" and then the "Jewish spawn Arabs" and they are fighting for Israel.

I would not be surprised and an of course disgusted.
Originally Posted By r32gojirra
So basically they just needed access to education and they could in fact communicate

Lol at trying to blame generations of entrenched societal disadvantage on lack of intelligence
Ok, first to answer an earlier question. Tolkien was a devout Christian. He led C.S. Lewis to christ who was an atheist at the time.

lol... there we lots of races of Orcs. I think Adar is lying about Sauron. After all. Adar caused the eruption of Mt. Doom and creation of Mordor.
At this point Sauron is known as Annatar, the giver of gifts and is a good looking kind kind guy who is going to befriend everyone and create the 19 rings off power with Elrond's friend Celibimbor.
To deceive them all.

The only thing in Arda capable of making the ONE RING is Mt. Doom. (Odorun)

So, it looks as if Adar made a home for the orcs who Sauron gave a languange and began to evolve them.


Tolkien gave two orgins for the orcs
1. made from captured and tortured elves who reproduced like men and elves.
2. Created from stone, slime, animals and other living things.

Orcs are considered Melkor's greatest sin.
The orcs hated Melkor, but served him.

Some orcs did fight against Sauron. We arn't sure when.

There may be some truth in what Adar said... but I think he and Sauron in cahoots.
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