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post 1669057843 10-07-2022, 02:52 AM
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Crazy how Americans go to college for degrees other than STEM when it is so expensive.

I look at most degrees in Norway as a waste of time Even tho they are FREE. Now imagine paying 100k USd for that same degree & EARNING LESS

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post 1669057893 10-07-2022, 02:57 AM
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Murica Murica ...........land of the debt slaves , 70% of whom are female

why don't they just identify as debt free ?
post 1669062743 10-07-2022, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Azrairc
Being a teacher has to be one of the most comfortable jobs ever

Guarantee to never work weekends
All holidays off, even BS holidays
Summer Vacation
7 hours of work a day
Snow days
Movie days

So a bunch of people want that career and those benefits. That means it doesn’t pay well because there is a large mediocre supply because it’s a relatively easy degree to obtain
It's really not that easy, they do work weekends off-the-clock & are usually up until late night grading/helping their students 7 days per week

During summer vacation most are not being paid their salary either so many have to work a second job in that time
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luckily her vote for brandon will pardon all that debt.

Oh wait.
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What do you expect for a glorified babysitter?

Why not teach at some over-priced college for real money instead of elementary schools where all you have to teach them is not to chit their pants?
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post 1669063153 10-07-2022, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
What do you expect for a glorified babysitter?

Why not teach at some over-priced college for real money instead of elementary schools where all you have to teach them is not to chit their pants?
My thing is that they get summers/holidays off.

So if you extrapolate their annual working days to a normal career, its actually a good salary when you consider they also get very good benefits+pension.

If they teach summer school and/or do freelance summer tutoring on the side, then u can actually make good money.
post 1669063463 10-07-2022, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted By rentfreein
Wait. It is that much for a 4 year degree at Spellman college? Lol.
prob maxxed out and took out hella living expenses as well
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You shouldnt be going to private schools with that much debt to enter into education. Thats the problem.
People thinking degree cost should be commensurate with compensation.
No, certain degrees at certain schools are meant for rich people, certain degrees at certain schools are meant for people borrowing money.

Like scraping by paycheck and to paycheck and eating at Ruth Christs every night. Ridiculous
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post 1669063783 10-07-2022, 07:21 AM
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My favorite part is how they bitch about teachers using outdated stuff, little do they change and continue with outdated stuff xD
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imagine getting all that college debt, just to become a babysitter LOL
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Why is everyone so harsh? What is wrong with being a teacher and wanting to make money doing it? Why LOL at her? Teachers teach our children. We should be investing in our teachers, not frowning upon them, especially those in elementary school where kids are learning to read and write and learn basic math.
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She'll get a better job at some point but she made a mistake that's all too common. She thought that getting a master's/phD would substitute for time on the job, which to be fair some college administrators will tell you that lie to get your money. Once she gets 3 to 5 years experience in the classroom then she can get a job writing curriculums
Originally Posted By squat_blaster
Why is everyone so harsh? What is wrong with being a teacher and wanting to make money doing it? Why LOL at her? Teachers teach our children. We should be investing in our teachers, not frowning upon them, especially those in elementary school where kids are learning to read and write and learn basic math.
I think they are LOL'ing more at her paying a chit ton of money at a private college to be a teacher. It's not like you need an Ivy league degree to teach. She should have just gone to a state school
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post 1669064473 10-07-2022, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted By squat_blaster
Why is everyone so harsh? What is wrong with being a teacher and wanting to make money doing it? Why LOL at her? Teachers teach our children. We should be investing in our teachers, not frowning upon them, especially those in elementary school where kids are learning to read and write and learn basic math.
The public school system is anitquated. Aside from teaching the foundation of reading, writing, and math, the public school system does not prepare you for life. It'll never change because it's designed to keep your mindset locked into the "work till I retire and die" mode. They should be teaching you about finance and taxes but we all know why they don't do that.
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Originally Posted By niospecv
The public school system is anitquated. Aside from teaching the foundation of reading, writing, and math, the public school system does not prepare you for life. It'll never change because it's designed to keep your mindset locked into the "work till I retire and die" mode. They should be teaching you about finance and taxes but we all know why they don't do that.
Some schools have actually moved toward IRL stuff... Even some public schools. Sure they still teach calligraphy, but at least things are trending in the right direction.
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Originally Posted By niospecv
The public school system is anitquated. Aside from teaching the foundation of reading, writing, and math, the public school system does not prepare you for life. It'll never change because it's designed to keep your mindset locked into the "work till I retire and die" mode. They should be teaching you about finance and taxes but we all know why they don't do that.
That is not the teacher's fault. The teacher is hired to to teach the curriculum they're given by the school board. It's not like the teacher can walk in and say screw the curriculum and just teach whatever they want. I don't disagree other life skills should be taught, but it's wrong to laugh at teachers especially without knowing what exactly they're teaching and who they're teaching. Is she a grade school teacher? Is she teaching kids with disabilities? The school is only part of a child's education. The mindset "work til I retire and die" mostly comes from the home especially those who households barely make ends meet. Nothing wrong with educating yourself to make yourself a better person and a better life for yourself and your family. It's not like this teacher graduated high school and is expecting a handout. If we're not investing in our teachers, then why should anyone be motivated to want to teach? Imagine schools with no teachers.
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jfc they just hand out degrees to certain people I suppose. Her grammar is atrocious in a post complaining about not being able to find a job WHILE bragging about your education. Un-fuking-believable. Or is it?

When I graduated college our senior seminar class had one big research project and the instructor said, "If you have one misspelled word on your paper you will not pass my class and, therefor,e not graduate. If you don't know how to use spell check by now, you don't deserve a degree from here."
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Originally Posted By natypes
"I do have one companythatsbeen amazing."

"itsall a toss up"

jfc they just hand out degrees to certain people I suppose. Her grammar is atrocious in a post complaining about not being able to find a job WHILE bragging about your education. Un-fuking-believable. Or is it?

When I graduated college our senior seminar class had one big research project and the instructor said, "If you have one misspelled word on your paper you will not pass my class and,therefor,enot graduate. If you don't know how to use spell check by now, you don't deserve a degree from here."
oof
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Originally Posted By squat_blaster
That is not the teacher's fault. The teacher is hired to to teach the curriculum they're given by the school board. It's not like the teacher can walk in and say screw the curriculum and just teach whatever they want. I don't disagree other life skills should be taught, but it's wrong to laugh at teachers especially without knowing what exactly they're teaching and who they're teaching. Is she a grade school teacher? Is she teaching kids with disabilities? The school is only part of a child's education. The mindset "work til I retire and die" mostly comes from the home especially those who households barely make ends meet. Nothing wrong with educating yourself to make yourself a better person and a better life for yourself and your family. It's not like this teacher graduated high school and is expecting a handout. If we're not investing in our teachers, then why should anyone be motivated to want to teach? Imagine schools with no teachers.
160k college education to be a teacher is entirely her fault. Otherwise, starting at $37k wouldn't be so bad. Everyone knows teaching does not pay well. Teachers retire making 80k after 40-50 years of teaching. That is the brutal reality.

There is a reason why most teachers are women. It's an easy job and the pay reflects that. BRB summers off, 3 weeks off for Christmas, 1 week off for Thanksgiving, & 1 week for spring break. Men take more risks job wise therefore get paid more. No one forces these people to be teachers.
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Originally Posted By squat_blaster
learn basic math.
How much basic math does it take to figure out not to accumulate that much debt for a job profession that pays what it pays.
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Originally Posted By macmoney
How much basic math does it take to figure out not to accumulate that much debt for a job profession that pays what it pays.
Thing is her tuition was probably 20k and paid off by grants. The loans went to car payments, hair, nails, clubbing, vacations.

But it needs to be forgaven!
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College being an absolute mess has been known for the last decade. Can't believe the financial disasters these people willingly put themselves into.

I completed a WGU degree in 2022 for 10k and make 65k right now 6 months into my new career working at a Fortune 200 after 7 years of making 80-110k with no degree.

I'm sure she didn't even think about the mess that was coming her way until after she graduated.

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Originally Posted By iloveus
It is not

Skills pay the bills

Show what value you bring

I want to see actual work that you've done
No one cares what you want to see, moron. LMAO
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Originally Posted By Azrairc
Being a teacher has to be one of the most comfortable jobs ever

Guarantee to never work weekends
All holidays off, even BS holidays
Summer Vacation
7 hours of work a day
Snow days
Movie days

So a bunch of people want that career and those benefits. That means it doesn’t pay well because there is a large mediocre supply because it’s a relatively easy degree to obtain
Have you ever taught before? Grading takes up an enormous amount of time, especially if you want to provide good feedback.
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Originally Posted By jesterstear
My wife retired from her high school teaching/admin position last summer after 30+ years, 100k+ pension for life.
^^this.

My buddies wife teaches 1st grade makes 75K a year while only working half the year and will make a couple million in retirement.
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Originally Posted By TrueLiberal
No one cares what you want to see, moron. LMAO
Hot take there, genius.

Obviously the market has stated they want to see actual skills put to the test otherwise Teachers would be making way more. Lol at a tradie apprentice out of highschool making more than a teacher 200k in student loan debt. Markets don't give a fuk about your "dream"
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Pretty good for people sitting in a classroom (or home) for 8 months out of the year.
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Originally Posted By azzspankr
Pretty good for people sitting in a classroom (or home) for 8 months out of the year.
Exactly. Id take that for 2 months off every summer, and about 4 weeks of standard vacation during the 10 months I work, AND they get all the bank holidays as well.... Plus pension, plus health insurance....

again, if you extrapolate their total days per year worked to a normal career, they're doing very well.
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Most Batchelder degrees do not cost that much. However, rent , food, entertainment, booze, drugs etc.. all inflate the price of "the education".

Live off credit cards with no income for 4-6 years and how much do you think it would be?
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Imagine getting into a career that you have zero idea what the salary range is....

...and these are the people teaching our kids.

This is why I literally have zero sympathy for teachers that complain about pay. Its one thing if you cant find a high paying job in the private sector but if its a government job and you know exactly the range you will be paid over your ENTIRE career, what is there to say? You can push for improved pay but its never going to be a large salary especially when you work nine months a year.
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