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post 1669079433 10-07-2022, 11:42 AM
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Do you believe in free will?

I think we make less choices than we think
post 1669079523 10-07-2022, 11:43 AM
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i belive we have free will but the law stops most of us from doing so.
post 1669079533 10-07-2022, 11:44 AM
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yes, you are the result of the choices you make

everything in life is a conscious choice
post 1669079603 10-07-2022, 11:45 AM
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I don't know, honestly. I want too, but...when you really spend some time thinking about it, Determinism is very hard to argue against.
post 1669079613 10-07-2022, 11:45 AM
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No, everything is pre-determined. You're just here to observe.
post 1669079843 10-07-2022, 11:48 AM
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It’s complicated
post 1669079893 10-07-2022, 11:48 AM
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I used to, but now I realize we are all slaves.
For every man, there is a sentence, a string of words, that has the power to destroy him
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post 1669079913 10-07-2022, 11:49 AM
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here's what I know...

Plants will work towards the good of itself or the collective good of it's species

Animals will work towards the good of itself or the collective good of it's species

Sometimes things can go haywire and their brains/whatever get messed up and they kill themselves for one reason or another. Setting that aside fo mental health issues...

A human person that is completely mentally healthy, a normal regular person, has the option, abilitiy, and history to see what is good for himself, see what is good for his family, see what is good for his tribe, his country, his species, and he can still decide to do what is bad for these people/groups.

To me, that ability to choose to go against the natural order of things is indicative of free will.

I also ascribe to the theory that we're only "conscious" for lack of a better term, like 20% of the time throughout our day. A lot of the time we are just kind of switched off and in NPC mode to conserve energy. It takes a lot of power to think
post 1669079943 10-07-2022, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking⏩
yes, you are the result of the choices you make

everything in life is a conscious choice
Kids get cancer because they made a conscious choice to get cancer?
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche
post 1669080163 10-07-2022, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking⏩
yes, you are the result of the choices you make

everything in life is a conscious choice
I don't think everything is a conscious choice... A large amount of thoughts and actions are subconscious

If you meditate and try to stop thinking, a bunch of thoughts will pop into your head. You really can't stop them, you only can try to control how you perceive them or react to them, or just try to observe them. But you can't stop thinking and a lot of these thoughts inevitably lead to actions
Originally Posted By LtGoose⏩
No, everything is pre-determined. You're just here to observe.
If everything's pre-determined then nothing's preventable... How bruh?
post 1669080183 10-07-2022, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Hussar1⏩
Kids get cancer because they made a conscious choice to get cancer?
No kids get cancer because cells in their body mutate

Not sure what that has to do with free will
post 1669080313 10-07-2022, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking⏩
No kids get cancer because cells in their body mutate

Not sure what that has to do with free will
That wasn't what you posted though. You said, "made a conscious choice "
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche
post 1669080363 10-07-2022, 11:54 AM
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There's a magnitude of factors involved that influence "choice" that you're unaware of, so no.
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Originally Posted By ripinside⏩
I don't think everything is a conscious choice... A large amount of thoughts and actions are subconscious
You can choose to investigate actions and preferences and influence your subconscious. Or you can ride through life and see where your subconscious takes you.
post 1669080533 10-07-2022, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
here's what I know...

Plants will work towards the good of itself or the collective good of it's species

Animals will work towards the good of itself or the collective good of it's species

Sometimes things can go haywire and their brains/whatever get messed up and they kill themselves for one reason or another. Setting that aside fo mental health issues...

A human person that is completely mentally healthy, a normal regular person, has the option, abilitiy, and history to see what is good for himself, see what is good for his family, see what is good for his tribe, his country, his species, and he can still decide to do what is bad for these people/groups.

To me, that ability to choose to go against the natural order of things is indicative of free will.

I also ascribe to the theory that we're only "conscious" for lack of a better term, like 20% of the time throughout our day. A lot of the time we are just kind of switched off and in NPC mode to conserve energy. It takes a lot of power to think
Lol..here we go..Plants and animals 100% fight each other for survival.
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche
post 1669080863 10-07-2022, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted By ConTroLFreaKK⏩
There's a magnitude of factors involved that influence "choice" that you're unaware of, so no.
Yeah, like you can't choose the place, time, or environment you're born into and all of those influence the way you think, what you do, and who you become.


It's pretty mind-boggling brah
post 1669081333 10-07-2022, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By ripinside⏩
I think we make less choices than we think
I didn't want to make this comment but i did.
post 1669081353 10-07-2022, 12:05 PM
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I made the decision to neg you
See you tomorrow
post 1669081443 10-07-2022, 12:06 PM
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not really
post 1669081533 10-07-2022, 12:07 PM
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I didn't want to rep Pterodactyl314 but i did. I think OP is onto something here..
post 1669081893 10-07-2022, 12:11 PM
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I'm pretty sure this is a rotters alt.

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post 1669081973 10-07-2022, 12:12 PM
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Yes
post 1669082543 10-07-2022, 12:19 PM
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I believe in free will.
post 1669082753 10-07-2022, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Pterodactyl314⏩
I made the decision to neg you
I don't think you had a choice
Originally Posted By iputyouatapoint⏩
I believe in free will.
But is it your choice to believe in it?
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