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Originally Posted By desslok⏩
30 years ago just fk LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOSure bud, tell that to the people that bought house near me 30 years ago for $50k and are now worth 800k
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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People that can afford to buy a home ,do. And people that can't, make cope threads about how renting is a better choice. Simple truth is the hard data indicates people who own homes have a much higher net worth then renters. Furthermore the wealthiest people/upper echelons of society all own real estate.
From the article "“You’re paying property taxes, you’re paying maintenance, you’re paying insurance. There are all of these other things that happen with your home that you’ve got to pay for.”"
He basically thinks his audience is dumb enough to believe renters don't pay for all of that ^ plus line their Lords pockets with a little extra cash.
But go ahead boyo's. Listen to Mr Shecklestein. Rent a ****hole apartment in a massive city for the next 30 and you'll beat the system and get rich by investing the difference.
2. Based on Kiyosaki's logic buying a stock in a growth company is not an investment either....
From the article "“You’re paying property taxes, you’re paying maintenance, you’re paying insurance. There are all of these other things that happen with your home that you’ve got to pay for.”"
He basically thinks his audience is dumb enough to believe renters don't pay for all of that ^ plus line their Lords pockets with a little extra cash.
But go ahead boyo's. Listen to Mr Shecklestein. Rent a ****hole apartment in a massive city for the next 30 and you'll beat the system and get rich by investing the difference.
Originally Posted By MetroBrah⏩
1. Cardone has owned all of his residences. Its just his company owns it instead of it being in his own name. If he wants to leave he can. And he just rents it out or sells at a profit. He's already admitted to this. Plus its how he got his 'big' start when he bought cheap single family real estate in California then sold it after a massive run up. Cardone is not entirely honest about his investments or how he built his wealth. MeetKevin exposed him in the past.I follow the advice of Grant Cardone and Kiyosaki: Rent where you live, but invest in real estate.
Roberty Kiyosaki:
Anything that doesn't pay you back is not an investment.
Roberty Kiyosaki:
Anything that doesn't pay you back is not an investment.
2. Based on Kiyosaki's logic buying a stock in a growth company is not an investment either....
Originally Posted By uRFeeble⏩
And what do you get after 10 years? Assuming you pay 1500 per month in rent after 10 years its 180K in the wind with nothing to show for it. I'll take that 35K in profit and whatever I put into it as equity thank you very much.yeah these mortgage cucks are like herp derp i can just sell it for twice as much!
meanwhile in reality even after 10 years you probably might list if for 50kplus. than when you factor in the tax/land transfer/guv/lawyer bs its only bout 35k.... 35k over 10 years is not that much. 3500 a year, JUST LOL
meanwhile in reality even after 10 years you probably might list if for 50kplus. than when you factor in the tax/land transfer/guv/lawyer bs its only bout 35k.... 35k over 10 years is not that much. 3500 a year, JUST LOL
10-26-2022, 05:28 PM
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I don't see a problem with buying a home to live in. I wouldn't consider it an investment, but if you have to spend money on someplace to live I'd rather put the money to ownership rather than rent. You can always sell if you really had to, but you could also pass it down to your kids. Then again, since miscers are childless FAs I guess I can't blame them for not caring about owning a home.
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Originally Posted By EasyPassive⏩
If you buy at the peak them probably not great but my mortgage is $2200 with taxes and insurance. To rent an equivalent of my house would be $3500 a month or more. Meanwhile I'm also sitting on ~350k of equity. Just depends on the situation but to say it's a bad investment as a blanket statement is pretty retarded.A lot of people will tell you that buying a home is a good investment, but “that couldn’t be further from the truth,” says Peter Mallouk, a certified financial planner and president of wealth management firm Creative Planning.
Young homeowners in particular have figured that out the hard way: Underestimating the hidden costs is the No. 1 reason millennials who do own homes have regrets.
Full article :https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/18/weal...nvestment.html
Wow! Absolutely brutal srs, dead fk srs
Young homeowners in particular have figured that out the hard way: Underestimating the hidden costs is the No. 1 reason millennials who do own homes have regrets.
Full article :https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/18/weal...nvestment.html
Wow! Absolutely brutal srs, dead fk srs
10-26-2022, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
you invest the differenceAnd what do you get after 10 years? Assuming you pay 1500 per month in rent after 10 years its 180K in the wind with nothing to show for it. I'll take that 35K in profit and whatever I put into it as equity thank you very much.
10-26-2022, 06:50 PM
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Should I finally pay rent this month after being 9 months late on payments?
10-26-2022, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Just another example where homeowners think they are making a ton of money at the end of the day. You forgot about the property taxes you've paid. How much principal you've paid down on your mortgage, which is basically nothing in two years. If you sell you're paying 5% towards a real estate agent plus land transfer taxes to buy a new place. Anything else you've paid for in maintenance. Plus - you need another place to live so either you become a renter or you take whatever equity you earned and put it towards another house with another mortgage which just extends the cycle of debt.yeah what a fukking idiot I am for putting 10k down, having a nice house to myself to live in for 2 years with no landlord and no issues and i could sell it now, actually sell not just market value, for 200k over what i paid and be up 190k.
It's not as simple as "I made 190k in profit." No, you didn't. You probably paid less per month to live than someone renting depending on the area, but you still paid a ton of money to have that house to a bank in interest and the city in taxes, plus everyone else that gets involved.
And frankly, if you put only 10k down the biggest mortgage you could have would be 500k, so saying that you made 200k in two years is delusional.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
lololol they forget to calculate so many things; welcome tax, real estate agent fee, taxes, maintenance , the time they put working on their home , etcJust another example where homeowners think they are making a ton of money at the end of the day. You forgot about the property taxes you've paid. How much principal you've paid down on your mortgage, which is basically nothing in two years. If you sell you're paying 5% towards a real estate agent plus land transfer taxes to buy a new place. Anything else you've paid for in maintenance. Plus - you need another place to live so either you become a renter or you take whatever equity you earned and put it towards another house with another mortgage which just extends the cycle of debt.
It's not as simple as "I made 190k in profit." No, you didn't. You probably paid less per month to live than someone renting depending on the area, but you still paid a ton of money to have that house to a bank in interest and the city in taxes, plus everyone else that gets involved.
And frankly, if you put only 10k down the biggest mortgage you could have would be 500k, so saying that you made 200k in two years is delusional.
It's not as simple as "I made 190k in profit." No, you didn't. You probably paid less per month to live than someone renting depending on the area, but you still paid a ton of money to have that house to a bank in interest and the city in taxes, plus everyone else that gets involved.
And frankly, if you put only 10k down the biggest mortgage you could have would be 500k, so saying that you made 200k in two years is delusional.
wow, imagine being a homecuck in a declining market just fk LOL
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Originally Posted By EasyPassive⏩
Bruh, it's literally hundreds of thousands less expensive to purchase a $425k home than renting at $1500 for 30 years, INCLUDING everything you just listed.lololol they forget to calculate so many things; welcome tax, real estate agent fee, taxes, maintenance , the time they put working on their home , etc
wow, imagine being a homecuck in a declining market just fk LOL
wow, imagine being a homecuck in a declining market just fk LOL
The only scenario where you are right, is if you rented for 10 years and died.
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10-26-2022, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
read the article again, after you're done repairing your roof and cutting your lawn you boomer cuck just fk LMAOOOBruh, it's literally hundreds of thousands less expensive to purchase a $425k home than renting at $1500 for 30 years, INCLUDING everything you just listed.
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I don't own a home but this PURE COPE.
Just knowing you can retire rent free is enough to buy a house. Rent is people's biggest asset. Imagine if you didn't have to pay rent, you'd have so much spare cash
Just knowing you can retire rent free is enough to buy a house. Rent is people's biggest asset. Imagine if you didn't have to pay rent, you'd have so much spare cash
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
¨ Rent is people's biggest asset ¨I don't own a home but this PURE COPE.
Just knowing you can retire rent free is enough to buy a house. Rent is people's biggest asset. Imagine if you didn't have to pay rent, you'd have so much spare cash
Just knowing you can retire rent free is enough to buy a house. Rent is people's biggest asset. Imagine if you didn't have to pay rent, you'd have so much spare cash
lol
just fk LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Originally Posted By EasyPassive⏩
he meant the biggest expense.¨ Rent is people's biggest asset ¨
lol
just fk LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
lol
just fk LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
If you had any intelligence, you would have recognized it right away.
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Originally Posted By EasyPassive⏩
You know what I meant *******. I been drinking some¨ Rent is people's biggest asset ¨
lol
just fk LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
lol
just fk LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Everyone aged 42 and older in Australia is a multimillionaire because of their property investments
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Rental rates at all time highs and so is OP’s cope
Dude is probably near roping himself lmao
Dude is probably near roping himself lmao
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I saw it coming after his persistent crying about NYC and LARPing as an expert since he "comes here for work".Keep LARPing, rentard.


Rents really do drive some povertycels insane.
Glad mine know and are comfortable in their roles.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Where in that post did I say anything about landlords? I was talking about a property owner claiming they would clear 190k profit if they sold their house.And the rentard thinks that landlords pay the property taxes and insurance out of the kindness of their heart.
And they also buy appliances and pay for maintenance for the same reason.
But let's forget all of that ( including the fact that the landlord also made a healthy profit on top of all that ), and let's consider the following statement:
"you take whatever equity you earned and put it towards another house with another mortgage which just extends the cycle of debt."
Which in your rentard case is exactly $0.
Rentard cope knows no bounds.
And they also buy appliances and pay for maintenance for the same reason.
But let's forget all of that ( including the fact that the landlord also made a healthy profit on top of all that ), and let's consider the following statement:
"you take whatever equity you earned and put it towards another house with another mortgage which just extends the cycle of debt."
Which in your rentard case is exactly $0.
Rentard cope knows no bounds.

I think you're seriously mentally unwell about this topic because you're legit obsessed with about a hundred posts a day making fun of people.
Get a life.
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In my mid 20s I bought an apartment, rented out the spare room which covered the mortgage payment. Then I had spare cash to invest in a Vanguard S&S tracker.
Six years later sold the apartment for 60% more than I paid for it then I had a heap of cash, put some down as a down payment on a house, set some aside for fun and put some more into investments.
Wouldn't have been possible if I'd been renting the whole time.
Six years later sold the apartment for 60% more than I paid for it then I had a heap of cash, put some down as a down payment on a house, set some aside for fun and put some more into investments.
Wouldn't have been possible if I'd been renting the whole time.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
You pay a property manager a fee to manage all aspects of the properties in your portfolio. That fee is usually included in the monthly rental cost. So it is passive.30 years from now $555k today will be worth roughly $1.4 million. You didn't make money there.
Obviously yes by renting you are giving away money, I'm not arguing that at all. At the same time your house isn't really an investment either. It's just something you bought that you use. It's a purchase, not an investment.
Let's put a pause to the home vs. rent thing for a second. Rentcels who think they aren't giving away their money are idiots, you don't need to debate that point with me. But here's my argument for why your home is not an investment. Let's say you already own a home and you have an extra $500k sitting around in your savings account. Are you going to put that $500k into another home and expect to make money off the home as it appreciates? If so, the most likely thing you'd accomplish is simply matching the effects of inflation over time. So I suppose it is an "investment" just not a very good one. Now if you want to buy a home to rent it out that's a different story, but that's not really an investment either. You've basically added a job that will require your time in order to profit from renting out the home. Even if it's a low effort job, there's still work you have to do so to call that strategy an investment is also a bit flawed.
If you want to be super technical here an investment is just anything that generates income or appreciation. Your job is an investment by that definition though, and we all know that's not what people are talking about here when saying investment. Everyone means passive investment (buy and hold and do nothing else) when they say a house is not an investment (or a good one because typically you're not going to do much better than meeting inflation).
Obviously yes by renting you are giving away money, I'm not arguing that at all. At the same time your house isn't really an investment either. It's just something you bought that you use. It's a purchase, not an investment.
Let's put a pause to the home vs. rent thing for a second. Rentcels who think they aren't giving away their money are idiots, you don't need to debate that point with me. But here's my argument for why your home is not an investment. Let's say you already own a home and you have an extra $500k sitting around in your savings account. Are you going to put that $500k into another home and expect to make money off the home as it appreciates? If so, the most likely thing you'd accomplish is simply matching the effects of inflation over time. So I suppose it is an "investment" just not a very good one. Now if you want to buy a home to rent it out that's a different story, but that's not really an investment either. You've basically added a job that will require your time in order to profit from renting out the home. Even if it's a low effort job, there's still work you have to do so to call that strategy an investment is also a bit flawed.
If you want to be super technical here an investment is just anything that generates income or appreciation. Your job is an investment by that definition though, and we all know that's not what people are talking about here when saying investment. Everyone means passive investment (buy and hold and do nothing else) when they say a house is not an investment (or a good one because typically you're not going to do much better than meeting inflation).
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Originally Posted By BronsonStorm⏩
But but but but you had to pay a mortgage.......In my mid 20s I bought an apartment, rented out the spare room which covered the mortgage payment. Then I had spare cash to invest in a Vanguard S&S tracker.
Six years later sold the apartment for 60% more than I paid for it then I had a heap of cash, put some down as a down payment on a house, set some aside for fun and put some more into investments.
Wouldn't have been possible if I'd been renting the whole time.
Six years later sold the apartment for 60% more than I paid for it then I had a heap of cash, put some down as a down payment on a house, set some aside for fun and put some more into investments.
Wouldn't have been possible if I'd been renting the whole time.
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I got a house to live, if it ends up profitable whatvever. I'd hope to never have to, or want to, sell anyway
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He's a wealth manager, not a real estate salesman. Of course he's going to say that.
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My primary residence I bought in 2010 off of foreclosure at the very bottom of the market at about 40 cents on the dollar of its current value. I am fine with my investment.
That being said, people can certainly make bonehead decisions buying houses.
Also, the guy literally is trying to sell you stocks and bonds. LMAO at rentcels.
That being said, people can certainly make bonehead decisions buying houses.
Also, the guy literally is trying to sell you stocks and bonds. LMAO at rentcels.
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Originally Posted By EasyPassive⏩
Lol this is the misc. No one has payments on anything. They all own a couple 500K properties outright by the time they’re 30 and the maintenance on them is pocket change with their 350K/30 hour a week jobs.A lot of people will tell you that buying a home is a good investment, but “that couldn’t be further from the truth,” says Peter Mallouk, a certified financial planner and president of wealth management firm Creative Planning.
Young homeowners in particular have figured that out the hard way: Underestimating the hidden costs is the No. 1 reason millennials who do own homes have regrets.
Full article :https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/18/weal...nvestment.html
Wow! Absolutely brutal srs, dead fk srs
Young homeowners in particular have figured that out the hard way: Underestimating the hidden costs is the No. 1 reason millennials who do own homes have regrets.
Full article :https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/18/weal...nvestment.html
Wow! Absolutely brutal srs, dead fk srs
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Didn't say anything about renting, landlords or equity. But okay. I can match words too even if they have nothing to do with the actual conversation. Obsessed much?So let's see what you posted:
Then let's see what I posted...
I know that beavercel education system leaves a lot to be desired - but you don't seem to be able to read properly. I bolded the parts of my post that address the bolded parts of your post.
Or are you saying that you have more equity than $0 as a rentard?
Then let's see what I posted...
I know that beavercel education system leaves a lot to be desired - but you don't seem to be able to read properly. I bolded the parts of my post that address the bolded parts of your post.
Or are you saying that you have more equity than $0 as a rentard?

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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
I do visit NYC 3-4 times per year for pleasure, but you're mistaking me with someone else.I saw it coming after his persistent crying about NYC and LARPing as an expert since he "comes here for work".
Rents really do drive some povertycels insane.
Glad mine know and are comfortable in their roles.
Rents really do drive some povertycels insane.
Glad mine know and are comfortable in their roles.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Wow you used two of your grade two words in the same post. Which again, had nothing to do with what I said.Thanks for confirming that your reading comprehension is basically non existant.
But I guess I was expecting too much from a beavercel rentard.
"Didn't say anything about equity":
Which in your rentard case is exactly $0.00
But I guess I was expecting too much from a beavercel rentard.
"Didn't say anything about equity":
Which in your rentard case is exactly $0.00

You're pathetic.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
And now, bringing Canadian politics into a thread about mortgages so that he could say beavercel one more time. Herp derp.And the beavercel rentard, when confronted with his own statement, doubles down on his lack of intellectual capacity.
I mean, seeing as how Woofie is eligible to vote in beaverland...
It's no wonder Mr. Fancy Socks got elected.
Not once!
Not twice!
But three times!
I mean, seeing as how Woofie is eligible to vote in beaverland...
It's no wonder Mr. Fancy Socks got elected.
Not once!
Not twice!
But three times!

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