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post 1670508263 11-02-2022, 12:23 PM
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A dude thats insanely strong would mog a trained BJJ ****

no hold could hold a strong guy back
post 1670509133 11-02-2022, 12:32 PM
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post 1670509203 11-02-2022, 12:33 PM
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You clearly do not understand leverage and what fatigue does to strength levels. Unless you're a high level wrestler/grappler you really don't stand a chance on the ground against a skilled BJJ guy.
post 1670509363 11-02-2022, 12:36 PM
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Tell that to roided out submission wrestler Ken Shamrock who got choked out at UFC 1
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post 1670509433 11-02-2022, 12:37 PM
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It'd have to be a pretty huge strength difference
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post 1670509913 11-02-2022, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
Tell that to roided out submission wrestler Ken Shamrock who got choked out at UFC 1
just watched

the ken guy was low IQ af

0:30

for some reason he rolls back (lol) and allows the guy to have the advantage and be on top of him, it was all over there

if he actually had a brain he could have mogged him. Not even coping just being srs

post 1670510073 11-02-2022, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted By BigApple3pac⏩
This is wrong.

I have NO BJJ history at all.

Went to a BJJ dojo against a purple belt, the lead instructor was just a few steps away from the top notch brazilian dude that made BJJ what it is, can't recall his name.

Anyway, I'm 6'4 230lbs, 14%bf at the time. Not superman but not a ln average American either.

I'll humbly admit this guy did beat me. I didn't know how to do anything. No idea where to go. I was like a 10 year old wrestling his brother.

That said, this guy also struggled to work me. Hard. His holds, I just gooned my way out of them using strength. And he tried to out cardio me but I've got good cardio, and I was breathing and he was not, but that wasn't stopping me.

Again, he did eventually win.

But only because I didn't know how to finish the job, like I literally didn't know what was BJJ legal and what wasn't so I didn't go for any gold.

To say that someone "wouldn't stand a chance" is foolish.
Anyone knows you can out strength a normie BJJ lol

A strong person that lifts provided he's not a uncoordinated retard and isn't a retard would mog a guy that trains BJJ 7/10 times
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post 1670510233 11-02-2022, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted By fox994⏩
It'd have to be a pretty huge strength difference
Most people cant even bench 2 plates

A dude that can squat 2.5x his BW, bench near 2x his bodyweight, deadlift 3x his bodyweight and OHP over his BW would mog a BJJ dude. I'm sorry but you're not gonna keep a strong dude like that down
post 1670510323 11-02-2022, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
You clearly do not understand leverage and what fatigue does to strength levels. Unless you're a high level wrestler/grappler you really don't stand a chance on the ground against a skilled BJJ guy.
meh - if there is a considerable size difference they definitely do. Plus, you can train a lot but if you never train outside of the rules of BJJ...it can be picked apart. I had a few guys try to choke me out while I worked at bars and I just grabbed one of their fingers and the hold was broken.
post 1670510393 11-02-2022, 12:50 PM
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post 1670510403 11-02-2022, 12:50 PM
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Tweaker on pcp will pick them both up and smack them together like on cartoons
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post 1670510493 11-02-2022, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By desslok⏩
Tweaker on pcp will pick them both up and smack them together like on cartoons
that's ok, theAdlerian will then pick them up over head and slam them to the ground, then restrain them.


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post 1670510513 11-02-2022, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Unless his cardio is absolute garbage. Most heavy lifters I know can't even run a 10 min mile.
No fatcels, I'm talking like a dude thats strong in the 12-14% BF range, so lets say a 6ft 200lbs strong guy, used to play sports back in the day so moderate athleticism
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Unless his cardio is absolute garbage. Most heavy lifters I know can't even run a 10 min mile.
fights don't last ten minutes
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post 1670510693 11-02-2022, 12:55 PM
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They added weight classes to UFC for a reason.
People underestimate how important weight actually is.
Not Even talking about gym muscle either. Just weight in general.
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Originally Posted By BigApple3pac⏩
This is wrong.

I have NO BJJ history at all.

Anyway, I'm 6'4 230lbs, 14%bf at the time. Not superman but not a ln average American either.
I believe this. A huge 6'4 230lbs dude would crush a tiny 5'8 140lb BJJ black belt in a street fight. In the gym they would eventually submit you but in the streets you can hulk smash them the fk out.

Also I'm no BJJ expert but in the past I trained almost a year could submit most newbies kid you not some fat fuk 300lber day one sparred me made the mistake of taking bottom position fat fuk was unmovable and him putting his weight on me nearly made me tap out.
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
You clearly do not understand leverage and what fatigue does to strength levels. Unless you're a high level wrestler/grappler you really don't stand a chance on the ground against a skilled BJJ guy.
BJJ isn't like some superpower

I box and do BJJ 3/4 times a week. But even when I first started, if it was just some random ass fight with some average man who has done BJJ for years, they would be lucky to win. Ground game or no ground game, and especially in an uncontrolled setting. Smashing someone on the floor, grabbing their face and smothering it, I wouldn't give af and If I've got like 60-70lbs+ on someone who is 190-200lbs, it's not really that fair tbh
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I'm not saying fights last 10 min lol, are you unable to see the connection between being unable to run a mile under 10 and having pretty bad cardio for all athletic activities?
in terms of a fight - are you picking a WR who can run a ten minute mile or a lineman that can't?

Running is great but it is not the only way to judge your capacity - in fact for fighting, I would rather have someone who trains intervals rather than a mile.
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You're 270lbs? Good grief.
Around about, yes brother
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I'm just saying cardio is often a very important factor when it comes to fighting and can negate the advantages of size if the fight isn't ended quickly.
I get that, but running is a poor metric for that.
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