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10-08-2022, 02:31 PM
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Bone crushing week for tsla. Added 200 at 243.
Tsla Oct07 250cc x2 expired worthless for net 1400
Tsla Oct07 250cc x2 expired worthless for net 1400
10-10-2022, 05:21 AM
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10-12-2022, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Dual⏩
appears to be.i bought $80k usd of TQQQ JAN 2024 $50 call options in february, am i fuk?
3X etf will get raped if underlying asset trades sideways or negative. This is due to daily rebalance.
10-12-2022, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By usersignup2⏩
BTC these contracts with only $0.30 and $0.40 left, give or take.Another crazy week. Tsla decoupling from broader market and holding tight(er).
Rolled my 270cc and 280cc out to Oct21 to wait out the storm. Added a net credit of 24k on top of my initial 9k. This volatility and upward price movement bodes well for premium...assuming I can get out of this unscathed.
Rolled my 270cc and 280cc out to Oct21 to wait out the storm. Added a net credit of 24k on top of my initial 9k. This volatility and upward price movement bodes well for premium...assuming I can get out of this unscathed.
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TSLA Nov11 240cc x 19
looking to net $18K+ if these expire worthless
TSLA earnings next week. Couple things to consider:
has all the bad news been priced in? A lot of talk...moving forward, TSLA will not push deliveries leading up to earnings so consequently this quarter's 'miss' in deliveries (even though sales are up) will cancel out next quarter. Previous quarters they would focus on getting every last car into the hands of the buyers therefore it would be recognized on paper for the quarter. Moving that portion of recognized sales to the next quarter would cancel out any 'miss'. Why is this important? A mad rush in resources are required in a short period of time, increasing costs and decreasing margin.
tsla and Elon have fallen out of favor and will be punished harder than any numbers would warrant. That's just the way it goes. Market is irrational.
market does not like twtr purchase.
IF Elon has been selling tsla to fund twtr then when that selling ends, price can move freely. That is IF, have not seen any 13F to confirm.
tsla short interest is peaking. What usually follows is an increase in price, similar to when VIX peaks.
Any bad news in earnings or macro environment, global catasrophe, etc. will increase volatility in an already volatile stock and punish price.
Good luck everyone. See you in about 5 weeks!
10-29-2022, 12:15 PM
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had goog oct28 110cc x4 for earnings. Was expecting positive market reaction but no. May be delayed until next week, we will see. Small net of roughly 350, I will take it. Still confident with my tsla nov11 240cc, oxy csp still looking good.
Surpassed 100k net realized for 2022.
Surpassed 100k net realized for 2022.
11-04-2022, 03:18 PM
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goog Nov25 96cc x4
had tsla Nov04 200csp x10 closed for a measly $300
next couple of weeks may be a little quiet on the trading front.
goog Nov25 96cc x4
had tsla Nov04 200csp x10 closed for a measly $300
next couple of weeks may be a little quiet on the trading front.
11-06-2022, 06:51 AM
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11-06-2022, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted By usersignup2⏩
Volatility will be high imo on the days around CPI.STO
goog Nov25 96cc x4
had tsla Nov04 200csp x10 closed for a measly $300
next couple of weeks may be a little quiet on the trading front.
goog Nov25 96cc x4
had tsla Nov04 200csp x10 closed for a measly $300
next couple of weeks may be a little quiet on the trading front.
I expect a little sideways mon-wed then it gets juicy.
11-06-2022, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By lntense⏩
Whenever oil drops and he can acquire around $60. He doesn't mind waiting even though he's almost 100 lmaoWhen are you expecting him to buy?
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11-15-2022, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted By usersignup2⏩
Closed my goog nov25 96cc x4 from 3.60 to .53. Opened goog dec02 88cc x4@3.75STO
goog Nov25 96cc x4
goog Nov25 96cc x4
TSLA Nov11 240cc x19 expired worthless for roughly 19k net
Scalped TSLA today for 2500 net. May repeat tomorrow depending on my mood. Day trading sucks balls and is a soul sucker. Would rather sell calls if I can get decent premium.
11-16-2022, 01:04 PM
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More tsla scalps for 2k net.
11-18-2022, 01:56 PM
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no new contracts this week but scalped tsla for 5k net.
11-18-2022, 02:27 PM
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11-18-2022, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By lntense⏩
Weird ass week for sure. My Payo calls expired worthless. bought my SOFI and DNA CSP back and made a decent bit on the Sofi CSP and broke even on DNA CSP(thankful to be out). Holding BBBY CSP and down like 50% on them. So much for harvesting IV lmaoToday was choppy chit.
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11-29-2022, 06:45 PM
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Does anyone here use option Omega.
Just curious if there are any miscers I may have been discussing strategies with on their discord already
It is an SPX backtesting software with 1 minute data back to 2016. I used it to develop some short and mid-term mechanical and double calendar trades that have been killing it since June.
Here are some of the trades I put on today
https://optionstrat.com/ggqSwX1xLwI7
https://optionstrat.com/Sc1UNJo94G57
https://optionstrat.com/AW6YYKZSeybS
https://optionstrat.com/QLwR9lDe1HZR
Just curious if there are any miscers I may have been discussing strategies with on their discord already
It is an SPX backtesting software with 1 minute data back to 2016. I used it to develop some short and mid-term mechanical and double calendar trades that have been killing it since June.
Here are some of the trades I put on today
https://optionstrat.com/ggqSwX1xLwI7
https://optionstrat.com/Sc1UNJo94G57
https://optionstrat.com/AW6YYKZSeybS
https://optionstrat.com/QLwR9lDe1HZR
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11-30-2022, 08:08 AM
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TSLA Dec02 200cc x6
TSLA Dec02 187.50 x13
Looking net roughly 6k for the week
TSLA Dec02 200cc x6
TSLA Dec02 187.50 x13
Looking net roughly 6k for the week
12-04-2022, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By usersignup2⏩
200cc expired worthless. Will let 187.50 get assigned. 6k net for the week not including roughly 2k net from stock appreciation.STO
TSLA Dec02 200cc x6
TSLA Dec02 187.50 x13
Looking net roughly 6k for the week
TSLA Dec02 200cc x6
TSLA Dec02 187.50 x13
Looking net roughly 6k for the week
Will look to get back in at 187.50. TSLA 20ma on daily is roughly 187.38 so good possibility it will dip back down sometime this week. If not will do 187.50csp.
My goog Dec02 88cc was deep itm so rolled to Dec09.
This week will be interesting. Will SPY reject off upper trendline and VIX shoot up or are we in for a rally? Does Santa rally start now or do we have another week of battle and wait for Dec opex to find out? Have SPY Dec07 392P so I'm hoping for a dip. Big gap on SPY at about 372ish so that is looming.
12-04-2022, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
you're looking at news all wrong.I had SPY puts when that missile hit Poland a few weeks ago. Market barely flinched, I'd be very surprised if any news is able to push SPY back down (in December atleast)
News is a signal for timing, it is not the catalyst. If there is a BIG rally or dip, it has already been planned way ahead of the news. The news is the point when that rally or dip occurs (much of the time when BIG moves occur, jmho). Whales make the move, retail follows, media tries to explain what happened.
12-05-2022, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
WW3 is a black swan event so you can't plan for that.There is news, and then there isnews.. if .75bps is announced then yea I get what you're saying (move is priced in before it happens), but if Russia launches a nuke to start WW3.. that's the catalyst right? Nobody can plan for that? Or are you saying that whales have hedged accordingly for such a scenario.
Priced in move is different because it's already been adjusted...everyone has built they're position.
12-05-2022, 10:26 AM
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12-11-2022, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted By usersignup2⏩
SPY rejected off trendline as I expected right to a T. Closed 392P too early - only net of about 700.200cc expired worthless. Will let 187.50 get assigned. 6k net for the week not including roughly 2k net from stock appreciation.
Will look to get back in at 187.50. TSLA 20ma on daily is roughly 187.38 so good possibility it will dip back down sometime this week. If not will do 187.50csp.
My goog Dec02 88cc was deep itm so rolled to Dec09.
This week will be interesting. Will SPY reject off upper trendline and VIX shoot up or are we in for a rally? Does Santa rally start now or do we have another week of battle and wait for Dec opex to find out? Have SPY Dec07 392P so I'm hoping for a dip. Big gap on SPY at about 372ish so that is looming.
Will look to get back in at 187.50. TSLA 20ma on daily is roughly 187.38 so good possibility it will dip back down sometime this week. If not will do 187.50csp.
My goog Dec02 88cc was deep itm so rolled to Dec09.
This week will be interesting. Will SPY reject off upper trendline and VIX shoot up or are we in for a rally? Does Santa rally start now or do we have another week of battle and wait for Dec opex to find out? Have SPY Dec07 392P so I'm hoping for a dip. Big gap on SPY at about 372ish so that is looming.
Rolled goog 88cc to Dec16 for additional $0.60 premium x4.
Bought back in on TSLA and sto 172.50c x14 for net 2450 not including stock appreciation. Will let get called away. Also had TSLA 200c x6 for another 750ish.
Another interesting week coming. Santa rally still on bull's mind. I have a feeling grinch is gonna steal Christmas. QQQ and SPY looking bearish on daily but looking bullish on weekly (though could easily turn over if we have a bad week). TSLA not looking great so will be mostly out and now 50% cash. May look at a swing position on SQQQ.
This is what I posted on Discord.
usersignup — 10/28/2022 11:39 AM
if stars align we could have spy 409by late Nov
SPY hits 409 on
Dec01
This is the update of the SPY chart I posted on discord when I posted SPY 392p Dec07 lotto.
https://www.tradingview.com/x/5zFXkdMF/
Don't ignore the charts when you're trading! Don't fight the trend. Plan your trade and trade your plan.
12-15-2022, 02:00 PM
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took a swing position on SQQQ
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SQQQ Dec16 46cc x10
SQQQ Dec16 48cc x10
SQQQ Dec16 50cc x30
Looking to net approx 35K with these options including stock appreciation. If these get called away, may be the last big trades for the year for me and go back to 50% cash
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SQQQ Dec16 46cc x10
SQQQ Dec16 48cc x10
SQQQ Dec16 50cc x30
Looking to net approx 35K with these options including stock appreciation. If these get called away, may be the last big trades for the year for me and go back to 50% cash
12-16-2022, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted By usersignup2⏩
rolled my goog Dec16 to next week for additional credit $0.90 x4took a swing position on SQQQ
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SQQQ Dec16 46cc x10
SQQQ Dec16 48cc x10
SQQQ Dec16 50cc x30
Looking to net approx 35K with these options including stock appreciation. If these get called away, may be the last big trades for the year for me and go back to 50% cash
STO
SQQQ Dec16 46cc x10
SQQQ Dec16 48cc x10
SQQQ Dec16 50cc x30
Looking to net approx 35K with these options including stock appreciation. If these get called away, may be the last big trades for the year for me and go back to 50% cash
QQQ was a bit of a nail biter last 1/2 hour. Not sure what will happen next week so am happy to let my SQQQ get called away. I suspect Monday pop and then trade sideways all week going into Christmas week but not planning to play anything. I MAY take on some OTM TSLA CSP for a little cash but otherwise no plans.
12-16-2022, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted By usersignup2⏩
Nicely done! I really didn't see the move to nearly $410 coming leading into the early part of the week, but wish I would have moved harder into short term puts. I've been expecting a lot of negative data points and sentiment... But the tough thing is without big negative surprises it is difficult to get the timing for puts correct. Holding some longer dated puts, but I think I am still gonna end up too early in WBA and SBUX puts.rolled my goog Dec16 to next week for additional credit $0.90 x4
QQQ was a bit of a nail biter last 1/2 hour. Not sure what will happen next week so am happy to let my SQQQ get called away. I suspect Monday pop and then trade sideways all week going into Christmas week but not planning to play anything. I MAY take on some OTM TSLA CSP for a little cash but otherwise no plans.
QQQ was a bit of a nail biter last 1/2 hour. Not sure what will happen next week so am happy to let my SQQQ get called away. I suspect Monday pop and then trade sideways all week going into Christmas week but not planning to play anything. I MAY take on some OTM TSLA CSP for a little cash but otherwise no plans.
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12-28-2022, 01:58 PM
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so, thankfully I didn't take on TSLA CSP. It's looking like near capitulation. The next few days will tell. Will not be a buyer until there is a definite buy signal.
Took another swing position on SQQQ. Target of 263 QQQ gap fill hit called on Discord on Dec07.
STO Dec30 58cc x20. Looking to have these called away for a 15K net.
End of first week of January/beginning of second week may see a pop on SPY and QQQ with target of 20ma on daily (roughly 397.57 and 285.83 gap fills respectively) so I'd like to be out of SQQQ by then and rebuy when target is hit.
Took another swing position on SQQQ. Target of 263 QQQ gap fill hit called on Discord on Dec07.
STO Dec30 58cc x20. Looking to have these called away for a 15K net.
End of first week of January/beginning of second week may see a pop on SPY and QQQ with target of 20ma on daily (roughly 397.57 and 285.83 gap fills respectively) so I'd like to be out of SQQQ by then and rebuy when target is hit.
12-30-2022, 02:10 PM
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QQQ consolidating between 263 and 266 gap fill so SQQQ shares did not get called away.
Just over 3k net for these and GOOG cc.
Rolled the GOOG to jan06 89c for additional 0.89 x4 premium.
dumped all my losers for eoy to offset against capital gains.
Just over 3k net for these and GOOG cc.
Rolled the GOOG to jan06 89c for additional 0.89 x4 premium.
dumped all my losers for eoy to offset against capital gains.
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added to my SQQQ position
sqqq
jan06 54.50cc x10
jan06 56.00cc x10
jan06 58.00cc x10
58.00 might be close but hoping all get called away. I think there is a good chance QQQ dips below 260 tomorrow and possibly test 258.50, maybe next week. But I still believe a QQQ rally is looming, albeit minor and very short lived. So again, looking to have shares called away and then by back on QQQ pop. Lots of intraday opportunity for $0.75-1.00 scalps but unfortunately I couldn't see where the buy and sell zones were until late in the week. By then I was committed to 56 and 58cc, sold at low premiums.
sqqq
jan06 54.50cc x10
jan06 56.00cc x10
jan06 58.00cc x10
58.00 might be close but hoping all get called away. I think there is a good chance QQQ dips below 260 tomorrow and possibly test 258.50, maybe next week. But I still believe a QQQ rally is looming, albeit minor and very short lived. So again, looking to have shares called away and then by back on QQQ pop. Lots of intraday opportunity for $0.75-1.00 scalps but unfortunately I couldn't see where the buy and sell zones were until late in the week. By then I was committed to 56 and 58cc, sold at low premiums.
01-05-2023, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By usersignup2⏩
Have you been killing it short lately?added to my SQQQ position
sqqq
jan06 54.50cc x10
jan06 56.00cc x10
jan06 58.00cc x10
58.00 might be close but hoping all get called away. I think there is a good chance QQQ dips below 260 tomorrow and possibly test 258.50, maybe next week. But I still believe a QQQ rally is looming, albeit minor and very short lived. So again, looking to have shares called away and then by back on QQQ pop. Lots of intraday opportunity for $0.75-1.00 scalps but unfortunately I couldn't see where the buy and sell zones were until late in the week. By then I was committed to 56 and 58cc, sold at low premiums.
sqqq
jan06 54.50cc x10
jan06 56.00cc x10
jan06 58.00cc x10
58.00 might be close but hoping all get called away. I think there is a good chance QQQ dips below 260 tomorrow and possibly test 258.50, maybe next week. But I still believe a QQQ rally is looming, albeit minor and very short lived. So again, looking to have shares called away and then by back on QQQ pop. Lots of intraday opportunity for $0.75-1.00 scalps but unfortunately I couldn't see where the buy and sell zones were until late in the week. By then I was committed to 56 and 58cc, sold at low premiums.
01-05-2023, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted By lntense⏩
Not short but 3x bear etf. So yes, I'm bearish. Roughly 40k+? in two swings.Have you been killing it short lately?
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