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11-20-2022, 09:10 AM
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no progress at weighted pull ups
srsly i think i've been stuck around 30 for 5 give or take on a day for any variation for like a year now (not trained for a year but on and off etc etc)
point being its the only lift that never goes up and quickly recesses too
what gives? form chit? its frustrating srs
point being its the only lift that never goes up and quickly recesses too
what gives? form chit? its frustrating srs
11-20-2022, 09:24 AM
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Doubt it has something to do with form. Lay out your warmups, sets & RIR on a typical workout.
11-20-2022, 09:25 AM
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What is your plan for progression? Or do you just go in and try more weight/reps every week for weeks/months in a row?
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11-20-2022, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted By paramparam⏩
warm up some shoulder rotation nonsense, possibly a few inverted rowsDoubt it has something to do with form. Lay out your warmups, sets & RIR on a typical workout.
then ~6-8 unweighted (unweighted hasnt increased beyond like 12 either)
then reps. no RIR, 3-5 x5 usually
Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
something of the latter tbh, or like 3-5x5. it's not ultra consistent on the long term because i dont make much short term progress or end up regressing workout to workout.What is your plan for progression? Or do you just go in and try more weight/reps every week for weeks/months in a row?
ie ill notice 5x5 twice a week, or 5x5 once and unweighted 3x10 once will not carry over consistent into the next week
Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
sometimes i try this to some effect by doing heavier neutral grip ones but it doesnt go far lolforce progress by stepping up the weight slightly, cant really injure yourself with weighted pull ups
11-20-2022, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By IronFeta⏩
Alright you do this twice a week? Might be pushing it too much, assuming you do heavy rows too. 5 working sets at 80% of your 1rm is alot.warm up some shoulder rotation nonsense, possibly a few inverted rows
then ~6-8 unweighted (unweighted hasnt increased beyond like 12 either)
then reps. no RIR, 3-5 x5 usually
then ~6-8 unweighted (unweighted hasnt increased beyond like 12 either)
then reps. no RIR, 3-5 x5 usually
I like to ramp up to a heavy triple/single 0 RIR then follow it up with a bodyweight amrap. Continue with 3x8-10rep db/bb rows 1-2 RIR.
2x week
Sometimes do a speedwork/low intensity day to recover.
Always made progress.
Ive come to realize lower/moderate volume & maximizing recovery is key as a natty.
11-20-2022, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By paramparam⏩
dont do rows much other inverted bodyweight.Alright you do this twice a week? Might be pushing it too much, assuming you do heavy rows too. 5 working sets at 80% of your 1rm is alot.
I like to ramp up to a heavy triple/single 0 RIR then follow it up with a bodyweight amrap. Continue with 3x8-10rep db/bb rows 1-2 RIR.
2x week
Sometimes do a speedwork/low intensity day to recover.
Always made progress.
Ive come to realize lower/moderate volume & maximizing recovery is key as a natty.
I like to ramp up to a heavy triple/single 0 RIR then follow it up with a bodyweight amrap. Continue with 3x8-10rep db/bb rows 1-2 RIR.
2x week
Sometimes do a speedwork/low intensity day to recover.
Always made progress.
Ive come to realize lower/moderate volume & maximizing recovery is key as a natty.
no heavy rows just bodyweight reps.
ill give it a shot thanks
are you going chest to bar with the weighted?
11-20-2022, 09:42 AM
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You can buy fractional plates and add like 1lb per week
11-20-2022, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted By IronFeta⏩
Depends mostly yeah, dead hang too. Sometimes cheat a pr with sloppy form. Point is to get that one 1-3rep max effort set in then reverse pyramid down, im not too stressed about the form.dont do rows much other inverted bodyweight.
no heavy rows just bodyweight reps.
ill give it a shot thanks
are you going chest to bar with the weighted?
no heavy rows just bodyweight reps.
ill give it a shot thanks
are you going chest to bar with the weighted?
Alpha destiny has some good chit on weighted pull ups. I got the ramp up & reverse pyramid idea from his videos. Guy has like a 4-5 plate pull up natty. Goldmine channel for weighted calisthenics
11-20-2022, 09:58 AM
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If you are doing them twice a week, do 6-8 reps once a week and 3-5 reps once a week.
Instead of 5x5, try 5,4,3 and the other day 8,7,6. With 5x5 you are really shaving a rep on the first couple of sets, make the first set a genuine 5.
There's nothing wrong with 5x5, but it's not working, so time for something different.
Instead of 5x5, try 5,4,3 and the other day 8,7,6. With 5x5 you are really shaving a rep on the first couple of sets, make the first set a genuine 5.
There's nothing wrong with 5x5, but it's not working, so time for something different.
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11-20-2022, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted By paramparam⏩
never really liked that guy but ill watchDepends mostly yeah, dead hang too. Sometimes cheat a pr with sloppy form. Point is to get that one 1-3rep max effort set in then reverse pyramid down, im not too stressed about the form.
Alpha destiny has some good chit on weighted pull ups. I got the ramp up & reverse pyramid idea from his videos. Guy has like a 4-5 plate pull up natty. Goldmine channel for weighted calisthenics
Alpha destiny has some good chit on weighted pull ups. I got the ramp up & reverse pyramid idea from his videos. Guy has like a 4-5 plate pull up natty. Goldmine channel for weighted calisthenics
he puts on bullchit cringey accents all the time
Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
thxIf you are doing them twice a week, do 6-8 reps once a week and 3-5 reps once a week.
Instead of 5x5, try 5,4,3 and the other day 8,7,6. With 5x5 you are really shaving a rep on the first couple of sets, make the first set a genuine 5.
There's nothing wrong with 5x5, but it's not working, so time for something different.
Instead of 5x5, try 5,4,3 and the other day 8,7,6. With 5x5 you are really shaving a rep on the first couple of sets, make the first set a genuine 5.
There's nothing wrong with 5x5, but it's not working, so time for something different.
Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
unaware1x/wk is goat for everything srs
try 1x/wk drinking
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11-20-2022, 12:30 PM
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Maybe try doing negatives at a higher weight? Might stimulate some strength gains
11-20-2022, 12:35 PM
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follow this program
EMOM : Every Minute on the Minute
WEEK 1
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 4 reps, resting 2 minutes between sets. Use a weight that allows you to complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 3 pull-ups every minute for the first 5 minutes, then 2 pull-ups for the last 5 minutes.
WEEK 2
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 3 reps. Increase the weight from last week, but still complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 3 pull-ups every minute for 10 minutes.
WEEK 3
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 2 reps. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 4 pull-ups every minute for 5 minutes, then 3 pull-ups every minute for 10 minutes.
WEEK 4
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 2, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Use a weight that'll allow you to complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 20 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
WEEK 5
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 1, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
WEEK 6
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 1, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 10 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
After week 6 retest your max rep set of pull-ups.
EMOM : Every Minute on the Minute
WEEK 1
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 4 reps, resting 2 minutes between sets. Use a weight that allows you to complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 3 pull-ups every minute for the first 5 minutes, then 2 pull-ups for the last 5 minutes.
WEEK 2
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 3 reps. Increase the weight from last week, but still complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 3 pull-ups every minute for 10 minutes.
WEEK 3
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 2 reps. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 4 pull-ups every minute for 5 minutes, then 3 pull-ups every minute for 10 minutes.
WEEK 4
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 2, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Use a weight that'll allow you to complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 20 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
WEEK 5
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 1, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
WEEK 6
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 1, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 10 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
After week 6 retest your max rep set of pull-ups.
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11-20-2022, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
looks legitfollow this program
EMOM : Every Minute on the Minute
WEEK 1
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 4 reps, resting 2 minutes between sets. Use a weight that allows you to complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 3 pull-ups every minute for the first 5 minutes, then 2 pull-ups for the last 5 minutes.
WEEK 2
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 3 reps. Increase the weight from last week, but still complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 3 pull-ups every minute for 10 minutes.
WEEK 3
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 2 reps. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 4 pull-ups every minute for 5 minutes, then 3 pull-ups every minute for 10 minutes.
WEEK 4
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 2, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Use a weight that'll allow you to complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 20 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
WEEK 5
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 1, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
WEEK 6
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 1, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 10 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
After week 6 retest your max rep set of pull-ups.
EMOM : Every Minute on the Minute
WEEK 1
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 4 reps, resting 2 minutes between sets. Use a weight that allows you to complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 3 pull-ups every minute for the first 5 minutes, then 2 pull-ups for the last 5 minutes.
WEEK 2
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 3 reps. Increase the weight from last week, but still complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 3 pull-ups every minute for 10 minutes.
WEEK 3
Day 1 – Weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 2 reps. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – EMOM pull-ups: Do 4 pull-ups every minute for 5 minutes, then 3 pull-ups every minute for 10 minutes.
WEEK 4
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 2, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Use a weight that'll allow you to complete all reps in each set.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 20 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
WEEK 5
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 1, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
WEEK 6
Day 1 – Cluster set weighted pull-ups: Do 5 sets of 1, 1, 1, resting 15 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets. Increase the weight from last week.
Day 2 – Cluster set pull-ups: Do 4 sets of 3, 3, 3, resting 10 seconds between clusters and 2 minutes between sets.
After week 6 retest your max rep set of pull-ups.
where from? have you done it with good success
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yes your form is probably the problem all the other nonsense I just sifted through in the responses is horrible advice
watch how Mike Istaetel and Paul carter do their most recent lat pulldown/pull up tutorials. That is how you should be doing your pullups. I involves keeping your arms infront of you not to the side and pulling with thoracic flexion and humerus external rotation
you're likely running into having 1 muscle fatigue so another muscle takes over and neither are actually reaching close to failure because they are "spotting" each other rather than the intended target muscle carrying the brute of the mechanical tension leading to failure
watch how Mike Istaetel and Paul carter do their most recent lat pulldown/pull up tutorials. That is how you should be doing your pullups. I involves keeping your arms infront of you not to the side and pulling with thoracic flexion and humerus external rotation
you're likely running into having 1 muscle fatigue so another muscle takes over and neither are actually reaching close to failure because they are "spotting" each other rather than the intended target muscle carrying the brute of the mechanical tension leading to failure
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You chicken winging to the bar?
work on form...maybe switch to parallel bars for a bit. Or vice versa
Might be ya grip
Might not got enough dip on ya chip
Try to hit 20 reps BW then go back to weighted
should get a decent pump over 15 pullups
work on form...maybe switch to parallel bars for a bit. Or vice versa
Might be ya grip
Might not got enough dip on ya chip
Try to hit 20 reps BW then go back to weighted
should get a decent pump over 15 pullups
See natypes sig
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
will do. i notice my biceps contribute a lot and fatigueyes your form is probably the problem all the other nonsense I just sifted through in the responses is horrible advice
watch how Mike Istaetel and Paul carter do their most recent lat pulldown/pull up tutorials. That is how you should be doing your pullups. I involves keeping your arms infront of you not to the side and pulling with thoracic flexion and humerus external rotation
you're likely running into having 1 muscle fatigue so another muscle takes over and neither are actually reaching close to failure because they are "spotting" each other rather than the intended target muscle carrying the brute of the mechanical tension leading to failure
watch how Mike Istaetel and Paul carter do their most recent lat pulldown/pull up tutorials. That is how you should be doing your pullups. I involves keeping your arms infront of you not to the side and pulling with thoracic flexion and humerus external rotation
you're likely running into having 1 muscle fatigue so another muscle takes over and neither are actually reaching close to failure because they are "spotting" each other rather than the intended target muscle carrying the brute of the mechanical tension leading to failure
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Originally Posted By IronFeta⏩
We follow up on this program in my bjj school 6 month before ebi tourneys to build strength and endurancelooks legit
where from? have you done it with good success
where from? have you done it with good success
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
You think applying conjugate style training to weighted pull ups is horrible advice alright buddy.yes your form is probably the problem all the other nonsense I just sifted through in the responses is horrible advice
watch how Mike Istaetel and Paul carter do their most recent lat pulldown/pull up tutorials. That is how you should be doing your pullups. I involves keeping your arms infront of you not to the side and pulling with thoracic flexion and humerus external rotation
you're likely running into having 1 muscle fatigue so another muscle takes over and neither are actually reaching close to failure because they are "spotting" each other rather than the intended target muscle carrying the brute of the mechanical tension leading to failure
watch how Mike Istaetel and Paul carter do their most recent lat pulldown/pull up tutorials. That is how you should be doing your pullups. I involves keeping your arms infront of you not to the side and pulling with thoracic flexion and humerus external rotation
you're likely running into having 1 muscle fatigue so another muscle takes over and neither are actually reaching close to failure because they are "spotting" each other rather than the intended target muscle carrying the brute of the mechanical tension leading to failure
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