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post 1672099603 12-01-2022, 11:10 AM
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Damn, too bad the low IQ cultists are going to have to pay back the loans they agreed to. Such a shame.

The idiots that voted for Democrats on the basis of loan forgiveness deserve to live in poverty. If they are so "educated" then it shouldn't be too hard to find a job with their big brains.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
That's the only way. But the Dems in Congress weren't going to pass it anyway. They could have over the last 2 years and haven't. As already pointed out, student loan forgiveness is going to be a forever carrot on a stick just out of reach to motivate the donkeys.
It's almost like Biden knew this and now he can pretend he tried + blame Republicans
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Like all the banks and business during covid? Hey, don't you own a small business...
Idk how you’d go about it for banks and businesses but my point stands. Never took a dime of any Covid money, and after all has come out I’m glad I didn’t.
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Originally Posted By crupiea⏩
How stupid can you be to actually think that this forgiveness stuff is actually going to happen.
It's already happening with the indefinite pause on interest and payments. Any future president who puts an end to that is committing political suicide.
Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
Idk how you’d go about it for banks and businesses but my point stands. Never took a dime of any Covid money, and after all has come out I’m glad I didn’t.
I assume you donated your covid stimulus checks back to the government? LMAO
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post 1672100493 12-01-2022, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By 128⏩
It's almost like Biden knew this and now he can pretend he tried + blame Republicans


Young voters don't have enough life experience to recognize the cynical manipulation for what it is. I have my fingers crossed that when this hits the Supreme Court even 1-2 of the Democrat judges will admit it's unconstitutional. That would restore a little bit of faith in them not taking completely partisan line judgments.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩


Young voters don't have enough life experience to recognize the cynical manipulation for what it is. I have my fingers crossed that when this hits the Supreme Court even 1-2 of the Democrat judges will admit it's unconstitutional. That would restore a little bit of faith in them not taking completely partisan line judgments.
I already ethered you in my previous reply about why it's constitutional. Conservative justices will block it as expected given hyper partisan courts, but at least Biden can keep extending the interest and payments suspension. Republicans have been backed into a corner and it's not gonna look good for them in 2024.
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post 1672100773 12-01-2022, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By LeftistGent⏩
It's already happening with the indefinite pause on interest and payments. Any future president who puts an end to that is committing political suicide.


I assume you donated your covid stimulus checks back to the government? LMAO
Donated them to the local homeless shelter. I understand pride and integrity is a foreign concept to democrats but I’ll never take a direct dollar off the backs of a taxpayer if I can at all help it.
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Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
Donated them to the local homeless shelter. I understand pride and integrity is a foreign concept to democrats but I’ll never take a direct dollar off the backs of a taxpayer if I can at all help it.
If true I'll give you credit there for standing by your principles. Definitely can respect that.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Like all the banks and business during covid? Hey, don't you own a small business...
They wouldn't have needed a bailout, but weak, impotent, frail bitches like yourself, shut them down. Can't have it both ways ****bag, you supported the lockdowns, and those businesses either go out of business, or you do something to keep them afloat.
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Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
Donated them to the local homeless shelter. I understand pride and integrity is a foreign concept to democrats but I’ll never take a direct dollar off the backs of a taxpayer if I can at all help it.
Very good Big Country, respect. AND you've posted like 3 times without calling democrats and their supporters groomers and child rapist.

It can learn..


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Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
Donated them to the local homeless shelter.I understand pride and integrity is a foreign concept to democrats but I’ll never take a direct dollar off the backs of a taxpayer if I can at all help it.
Lmfao anyone buying this? Or do you think it's more likely he blew it on fire water or his tribe's casino? LOL




Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Very good Big Country, respect. AND you've posted like 3 times without calling democrats and their supporters groomers and child rapist.

It can learn..


It didn't learn... it forgot. Inb4 nothing but Dem insults as usual.
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Originally Posted By LeftistGent⏩
I already ethered you in my previous reply about why it's constitutional. Conservative justices will block it as expected given hyper partisan courts, but at least Biden can keep extending the interest and payments suspension. Republicans have been backed into a corner and it's not gonna look good for them in 2024.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL. You ethered yourself, bruv. You mentioned how CONGRESS passed other measures, which is completely in alignment with what I said - CONGRESS has to pass the loan forgiveness, not the President by executive order. Biden trying to go it alone is unconstitutional. Anyone not motivated by selfishness or partisanship that passed junior high can tell you that.

I don't care what happens to Republicans as it relates to this subject. I vote on the person, not their party. I voted for my Democrat governor in 2020 (last time I voted), can't remember who I voted for Congress. If this cynical ploy hurts Republicans in 2024, oh well. We have rules and separation of powers for damn good reasons. They're more important than a single election.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL. You ethered yourself, bruv. You mentioned how CONGRESS passed other measures, which is completely in alignment with what I said - CONGRESS has to pass the loan forgiveness, not the President by executive order. Biden trying to go it alone is unconstitutional. Anyone not motivated by selfishness or partisanship that passed junior high can tell you that.

I don't care what happens to Republicans as it relates to this subject. I vote on the person, not their party. I voted for my Democrat governor in 2020 (last time I voted), can't remember who I voted for Congress. If this cynical ploy hurts Republicans in 2024, oh well. We have rules and separation of powers for damn good reasons. They're more important than a single election.
You should read my reply again, sounds like you have a severe lack of reading comprehension. Congress already passed the ability for Biden to do this.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Very good Big Country, respect. AND you've posted like 3 times without calling democrats and their supporters groomers and child rapist.

It can learn..


I don’t need too, it’s becoming more and more accepted finally. That and I’m just kinda over being sh*tty to people online, I got kinda caught up being that way here. That’s not how I conduct myself irl so I’m not going to do so here. I may hate every single thing about the democrat agenda but being an ******* is probably going to entrench those beliefs in the local democrats which makes it counter productive to me.
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Lmfao anyone buying this? Or do you think it's more likely he blew it on fire water or his tribe's casino? LOL
I don’t care whether you believe it or not, I do quite a bit of work with the shelter as the people that run it are amazing people. A man and wife from New York, upstate not city, came here 20 ish years ago and and put clothes on the back and food in the bellies of countless people so I do my part when I can. Those kinds of people are example for somebody like you to live by versus how you conduct yourself currently you racist fuk.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Lmfao anyone buying this? Or do you think it's more likely he blew it on fire water or his tribe's casino? LOL








It didn't learn... it forgot. Inb4 nothing but Dem insults as usual.
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So people have to pay for their own liberal arts degrees?

****, I'm absolutely outraged.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Srs question (and I know you're just a beat cop so you probably don't know but I'll ask anyway). What percentage of $100k+ college debt students have useless degrees and work at Starbucks? And what percentage are going on to great careers?

This is similar to you idiots thinking all left leaning people support trannie story time and that teachers are indoctrinating your kids (not you you're forever alone) etc.
here you go dipchit.
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Student Loan Default Rate
Last Updated: December 19, 2021
One out of every ten Americans has defaulted on a student loan, and 7.8% of all student loan debt is in default.

An average of 15% of student loans are in default at any given time.
11% of new graduates default in the first 12 months of repayment.
$124.4 billion in student debt is in defaulted student loans.
Over a million student loans enter default each year.
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
here you go dipchit.
that's a LOT of coffee served by libtards with college degrees.

https://educationdata.org/student-loan-default-rate
Student Loan Default Rate
Last Updated: December 19, 2021
One out of every ten Americans has defaulted on a student loan, and 7.8% of all student loan debt is in default.

An average of 15% of student loans are in default at any given time.
11% of new graduates default in the first 12 months of repayment.
$124.4 billion in student debt is in defaulted student loans.
Over a million student loans enter default each year.
56.78% of In-School Student Borrowers Going On Spring Break Will Use Loan Money for Trip in 2018.

I'm sure they've become more responsive since 2018.......
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
56.78% of In-School Student Borrowers Going On Spring Break Will Use Loan Money for Trip in 2018.

I'm sure they've become more responsive since 2018.......
i didn't find that all that shocking to be honest.
someone who is racking up 100k+ in student loans for a liberal arts degree def. isn't the smartest person when it comes to money.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
56.78% of In-School Student Borrowers Going On Spring Break Will Use Loan Money for Trip in 2018.

I'm sure they've become more responsive since 2018.......
I forget the exact percentages, but when surveyed about what they'd do with $10-20K of forgiven loans a high majority of people in their 20s with student debt said they'd go spend more money on phones, other gadgets and vacation. In that respect it ends up a subsidy to Samsung, Apple, hotels and bars.

Almost none said that "extra breathing room" would have them putting more money toward something improving their lives. Hell, if they said they'd move to a nice apartment I'd say that's cool. But nah, a new Iphone and more shots of Patron, biches! I love shots of Patron too, but not theirs on our tab.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
I forget the exact percentages, but when surveyed about what they'd do with $10-20K of forgiven loans a high majority of people in their 20s with student debt said they'd go spend more money on phones, other gadgets and vacation. In that respect it ends up a subsidy to Samsung, Apple, hotels and bars.

Almost none said that "extra breathing room" would have them putting more money toward something improving their lives. Hell, if they said they'd move to a nice apartment I'd say that's cool. But nah, a new Iphone and more shots of Patron, biches! I love shots of Patron too, but not theirs on our tab.
Then they're broke, still living at home, and bitching about how they "Can't" move out.......
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Honestly I don't even care. If people won't even pay off their student loans then America is not worth saving any way.

Why the hell should one dollar of my tax money go to pay off some idiot who majored in a worthless degree? I would maybe consider student loan forgiveness for things like STEM degrees.

Also, Democrats keep bringing in foreigners who steal jobs from Americans with degrees. I wish the right would play up this angle more but they'd rather focus on stupid chit like "election fraud."
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Originally Posted By SmillironS⏩
I don’t need too, it’s becoming more and more accepted finally. That and I’m just kinda over being sh*tty to people online, I got kinda caught up being that way here. That’s not how I conduct myself irl so I’m not going to do so here. I may hate every single thing about the democrat agenda but being an ******* is probably going to entrench those beliefs in the local democrats which makes it counter productive to me.

We’ll done Big Country. I too have decided to act more online like I do IRL…ok, I’m kind of a dik in both spaces. 🤨
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Originally Posted By LeftistGent⏩
I already ethered you in my previous reply about why it's constitutional. Conservative justices will block it as expected given hyper partisan courts, but at least Biden can keep extending the interest and payments suspension. Republicans have been backed into a corner and it's not gonna look good for them in 2024.
Paying off the debts of a bunch of libtard students is constitutional, but bailing out the banks to keep the financial system from collapsing, which literally affects everyone not just retarded college kids, is not constitutional.

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Originally Posted By LeftistGent⏩
You should read my reply again, sounds like you have a severe lack of reading comprehension. Congress already passed the ability for Biden to do this.
I'll take your word on what's in the Heroes Act (although a citation wouldn't kill ya. And I don't mean a random news article), but what's the emergency? The pandemic's been over for awhile now and he's already repeated the pause on repayments. There's no economic emergency. If anything the repayment and interest pause extended through the middle of next year (and probably further once that approaches), destroys legal rationale to also be able to have loan forgiveness, since people with student loans have already received such high financial assistance already. Along with plenty of other legal challenges.



On a less legal perspective do you not see how loan forgiveness is a terrible policy in the long-term? It does nothing to solve the root of the problem, the prices colleges charge like a colluding cartel does. In fact it encourages an acceleration of the prices charged. And why shouldn't students 5, 10, 15 years from now get the same loan forgiveness? People currently with student loans don't face any more hardship than future students. In fact the years of payment and interest pause give them less hardship than future students. That itself can add on as a legal challenge. How long does the provision in the Heroes Act last? It can't be indefinite.

The moratorium on mortgage payments carried out by the CDC was forced to end as the economy was recovering (no emergency) and that was over a year ago. I say good luck to the Admin trying to rationalize the need of the loan forgiveness a year after mortgage moratorium was ended and there's already a moratorium in place for student loan payments and interest. With courts already shooting the loan forgiveness down it isn't just a matter of them trying to prove whether it's constitutional, they also have to provide evidence for why it is just. Again, good luck when there's already a moratorium on payment and interest in place.
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"Conservative courts" = we didn't get our way

I am 100% certain they knew this was unconstitutional and used it as a way to trick a bunch of retards into voting Dem. You really think a bunch of lawyers wouldn't know this? Typical political nonsense, trick the dumbasses into voting for you with empty promises then blame someone else when you can't deliver.

That said, if it DOES go through somehow, I recommend any of you with student loan debt apply for it, regardless how you feel, because it's not real money anyway. They're just going to give it to some moronic ****g0ts, and I'm done pretending IDGAF about anything regarding this sham government anymore. I welcome the inevitable economic collapse because I finally want to run my own apocalyptic biker gang...done with this fakeass "civilization" nonsense.
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