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post 1673270433 12-21-2022, 10:52 AM
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the brain does not create consciousness


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Eben Alexander is a known fraudster and grifter

https://www.esquire.com/entertainmen...8/the-prophet/

He fell into a coma and had hallucinations, and this is what was the proof for "heaven". JFL @ anyone who thinks this is scientific
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post 1673271053 12-21-2022, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier⏩
Eben Alexander is a known fraudster and grifter

https://www.esquire.com/entertainmen...8/the-prophet/

He fell into a coma and had hallucinations, and this is what was the proof for "heaven". JFL @ anyone who thinks this is scientific
"scientific"

lol
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Originally Posted By Ikarsuz1337⏩
"scientific"

lol
Someone gifted me one of his books as "proof" and it is dogchit. It's quite amazing how the news/media machine just pushes these guys for airtime because it's ultimately just entertainment that keeps viewers watching for the next commercial break.

He literally went in and out of comas after getting meningitis and visited heaven in-between his mini comas. lmfao

He calls himself a "man of science" a lot too, despite relying on his coma incidence and NDE spookiness. Surgeons are retards (srs)
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier⏩
Eben Alexander is a known fraudster and grifter

https://www.esquire.com/entertainmen...8/the-prophet/

He fell into a coma and had hallucinations, and this is what was the proof for "heaven". JFL @ anyone who thinks this is scientific
Can't believe miscers in 2022 still think we're evolved apes, in a completely random universe. Good luck on your non godmaxxing endeavours
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier⏩
Eben Alexander is a known fraudster and grifter

https://www.esquire.com/entertainmen...8/the-prophet/
Consciousness is one, nobody has their own.

Consciousness needs fuel to operate like a car needs fuel to drive.

That energy comes from food.

That’s why the rock ( Dwayne Johnson)

Is so successful.

He can occupy a lot of energy and control a large portion of the collective consciousness.

Without training he would not accomplish much though, as he is converting that energy into creation.

So the consciousness is not in the brain indeed, you are born into it.
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier⏩
Eben Alexander is a known fraudster and grifter

https://www.esquire.com/entertainmen...8/the-prophet/

He fell into a coma and had hallucinations, and this is what was the proof for "heaven". JFL @ anyone who thinks this is scientific
n1gga you expect me to read 5,000 words?
He's just one of tens of thousands who are looking at the hard problem of consciousness.

https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/

The University of Virginia medical school does a lot of research into where consciousness resides. It's not a simple answer by any means.
post 1673271473 12-21-2022, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier⏩
Eben Alexander is a known fraudster and grifter

https://www.esquire.com/entertainmen...8/the-prophet/

He fell into a coma and had hallucinations, and this is what was the proof for "heaven". JFL @ anyone who thinks this is scientific
when tf did this word "grifter" come into online vernacular.

F8cking everyone is calling everyone a grifter.

nobody used the word grifter 2 years ago.
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Originally Posted By CinefitLove⏩
Consciousness is one, nobody has their own.

Consciousness needs fuel to operate like a car needs fuel to drive.

That energy comes from food.

That’s why the rock ( Dwayne Johnson)

Is so successful.

He can occupy a lot of energy and control a large portion of the collective consciousness.

Without training he would not accomplish much though, as he is converting that energy into creation.

So the consciousness is not in the brain indeed, you are born into it.
You think you could beat Money Mayweather in a boxing match despite never boxing yourself. You also believe you have what would be the most successful business on earth if people gave it attention.

You are unwell.
Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
when tf did this word "grifter" come into online vernacular.

F8cking everyone is calling everyone a grifter.

nobody used the word grifter 2 years ago.
That depends if they're actually selling something and being dishonest and disingenuous about it. In this case, it's absolutely correct.
Originally Posted By Basedhumanwaste⏩
Can't believe miscers in 2022 still think we're evolved apes, in a completely random universe. Good luck on your non godmaxxing endeavours
Who believes that?
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deep down we are all just a bunch of kids trying to find the best answers as to why we are here
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post 1673271583 12-21-2022, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
deep down we are all just a bunch of kids trying to find the best answers as to why we are here
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post 1673271683 12-21-2022, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By CinefitLove⏩
Consciousness is one, nobody has their own.

Consciousness needs fuel to operate like a car needs fuel to drive.

That energy comes from food.

That’s why the rock ( Dwayne Johnson)

Is so successful.

He can occupy a lot of energy and control a large portion of the collective consciousness.

Without training he would not accomplish much though, as he is converting that energy into creation.

So the consciousness is not in the brain indeed, you are born into it.
no what he is saying is our brains and bodies filter information from reality and form consciousness, which is limited based on our perceptions. When we die our body releases the constraints it has by narrowing down reality and we become "one" with all of reality again, because our filtration system(the brain and body) have stopped filtering things.
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post 1673271763 12-21-2022, 11:13 AM
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Doesn't matter. Either you believe consciousness has sanctity or you think we're no better than a door stop.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
no what he is saying is our brains and bodies filter information from reality and form consciousness, which is limited based on our perceptions. When we die our body releases the constraints it has by narrowing down reality and we become "one" with all of reality again, because our filtration system(the brain and body) have stopped filtering things.
Consciousness creates reality and not vice versa.

Consciousness overrides everything you see with your eyes. ( your reality)

You barely even have any free will because of it.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Doesn't matter. Either you believe consciousness has sanctity or you think we're no better than a door stop.
i don't think dichotomous thinking is appropriate in this situation. I think its quite possible it is a whole bunch of different scenarios far beyond our comprehension as to why we are here.

For all we know we are the same thing as just microparticles on a spec of dust being sucked up by a vacuum and our perception of our reality is so extremely small to beings that are totally incomprehensible in size and power to us and our perception of time is but a fraction of theirs. And then beyond that there could be another 100 layers of beings bigger and more powerful than them.
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post 1673272693 12-21-2022, 11:26 AM
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Fun home science project. Remove, or at least severely damage your own brain, and report back.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
i don't think dichotomous thinking is appropriate in this situation. I think its quite possible it is a whole bunch of different scenarios far beyond our comprehension as to why we are here.

For all we know we are the same thing as just microparticles on a spec of dust being sucked up by a vacuum and our perception of our reality is so extremely small to beings that are totally incomprehensible in size and power to us and our perception of time is but a fraction of theirs. And then beyond that there could be another 100 layers of beings bigger and more powerful than them.
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Originally Posted By PissantSoldier⏩
You think you could beat Money Mayweather in a boxing match despite never boxing yourself. You also believe you have what would be the most successful business on earth if people gave it attention.

You are unwell.



That depends if they're actually selling something and being dishonest and disingenuous about it. In this case, it's absolutely correct.



Who believes that?
Not being able to box when I wanted to has been a very bad experience in my life, it was done in the name of equality.

For all the people who could not match those standards and work ethics, for all the people who have to rot and work 9-5
And cannot stand someone thriving and seeing them rich.


My business is incredible as well, hundreds of people will likely copy that.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Turtles all the way down...

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Originally Posted By KaiClip⏩
****** you expect me to read 5,000 words?
He's just one of tens of thousands who are looking at the hard problem of consciousness.

https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/

The University of Virginia medical school does a lot of research into where consciousness resides. It's not a simple answer by any means.
If you ever seen the movie Lucy by Morgan freeman…

At the end Lucy disappear and when Morgan freeman asked where she was she said that she was everywhere.

She said that because consciousness is everywhere,

that was not science fiction.
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The brain does create consciousness though. Its one of those rare things were you can literally see cause (your brain) & effect (your consciousness)?
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Originally Posted By Channel83⏩
The brain does create consciousness though. Its one of those rare things were you can literally see cause (your brain) & effect (your consciousness)?
Then why does the University of Virginia medical school (and many other institutions) report conscious experience in those clinically brain dead?

How can you tell your brain is creating it rather than filtering it?
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Then why does the University of Virginia medical school (and many other institutions) report conscious experience in those clinically brain dead?


Few random firing neurons / electrical pathways would be my best guess, technically brain dead, but not really? Dig up a 10 day old corpse and see if they get the same result?


How can you tell your brain is creating it rather than filtering it?


You can't really, without removing your own brain, and finding out, for certain?!

But if you do think that now, then pretty much anything goes, you can believe whatever you like. Any theory, belief, religion, world view, is fair game. And it may be right, but we won't know for sure until after we die.
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Originally Posted By bradlehman⏩
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