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post 1673273023 12-21-2022, 11:33 AM
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The power supply has not yet been restored in Kiev
80% of the Kiev region remains without electricity, the head of the region said
The energy supply situation remains critical after the recent drone and rocket attacks, he said.
“I notice that with each enemy shelling, the complexity, and duration of the repair work increases,” said Kuleba.

Fuark poor merlen90, that's brutal.


But at least you can try to stay warm with some vodka boyo


Meanwhile, in Ukraine, they offer to take a sip of Zelensky. ayyLMAO
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
You guys are running two narrative that I don't understand, on one hand you're saying that Russia is a threat to European security and are looking to keeo expanding, on the other hand Russia is a failing economy with a chit military full of drunk Russians with rusty AKs.
You've been witnessing it for almost 10 months.

The Russkies are a threat that launched another invasion. They are also horrifically corrupt and incompetent.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Vatnik "special" forces boot camp

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High quality recruitment video

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These recruitment videos are hilarious. I love how it seems to be normal narrative in Russia to just work from morning to night and only get paid bread crumps or nothing at all. Same in the video where the dad has to plunder the piggy bank of his daughter because his company didn't pay him this month lmao.

They obviously need men with all the poor fukks they're burning through in Bakhmut. With the announcement of Putin today to enhance military personnel to 1.5 million, I'm sure there will be further mobilization waves starting next year. God, imagine being some poor russian guy under 70 years old. Your future will be to get torn to pieces by NATO weapons while holding a rusty AK.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
You've been witnessing it for almost 10 months.

The Russkies are a threat that launched another invasion. They are also horrifically corrupt and incompetent.
Meanwhile, U.S. government bringing “democracy” to the world

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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Where have I ever suggested that republicans weren't just as bad?

You guys are running two narrative that I don't understand, on one hand you're saying that Russia is a threat to European security and are looking to keeo expanding, on the other hand Russia is a failing economy with a chit military full of drunk Russians with rusty AKs.

We had a choice sit down and have Ukraine be neutral and stop the shelling of the Donbass. We picked the wrong option so so be ir. It was inevitable that China and Russia at some point would make this work multipolar again. Until Russia and China threaten North America I don't give a f***
I think your point of view on this is too narrow sighted tbh. You say that you dont care until it is north america that is threatened, but are you aware that escalation in europe can and would directly result in the US being at war?


If no economic/military (military as in aid, not direct involvement) pushback was given, whos to say that this wouldnt have resulted in further escalation in nato countries who are in similar situations as ukraine was? Ill tell you whos to say, no one… because it was a very real possibility.

No amount of conflict with russia is a good thing, but if we need to pushback on them to prevent a potentially wider much more catastrophic war in europe then i want to imagine that any rational person can agree on this.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Russia has no desire to invade the rest of Europe.
Source? Kremlin talking points sent you this AM?
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Originally Posted By BrianBerletic⏩
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They can desire it all they want. They ain't gonna be able to do it because they do not have the military to do it.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Your presupposition is incorrect. Russia has no desire to invade the rest of Europe. William Biurns said as far back as 2008 that arming Ukraine would be viewed as an existential threat to Russia and we didn't listen. United States policies has killed millions more people than Russia and China combine the last 50 years

The last time the Russians entered the North America's sphere we almost had nuclear war, yey we have zero regard for our own actions on Russia's own borders. That is called hypocrisy.
It isnt incorrect, i can give you clear examples of how further conflict could spring up in europe which would result in the US being at war with russia. Foreign policy isnt done on idea of “russia has no desire” its done in cost/benefit and risk management.


And nato expansion had nothing to do with why this war happened in the first place. Was it nato expansion that cause russia to annex crimea?


However many millions US conflicts have killed in the last 50 years also has nothing to do with this.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
How can they attack other countries when they are losing in Ukraine?
we Russians are a sneaky bunch. We are digging tunnels to the other eastern countries and going to surprise them.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
How can they attack other countries when they are losing in Ukraine?
They are losing in ukraine because of nato help, without it im not so sure ukraine would have made it past a month.

Thats my point lol.

If russia had been allowed to steamroll ukraine, the risk of breakout conflicts in regions like the balkans or the baltics would have been much much higher.


Think about it this way bro, when russia invaded georgia did anyone think it would mean further conflict in europe? No. Why would it? Russia obviously has no desire to invade ukraine, right?

If nato had pushed back on the georgia conflict, maybe it would have made russia think twice before rolling into crimea, which would have prevented all of this.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
If nato had pushed back on the georgia conflict, maybe it would have made russia think twice before rolling into crimea, which would have prevented all of this.
So why didn't Russia take all of Georgia? Why did they stop at Ossetia?
Originally Posted By Sell2win⏩
Russia annexed Crimea because Crimeans wanted to leave Ukraine because Ukraine made it insufferable for Russians. How is this hard to comprehend?
You're correct, but also the Black Sea is EXTREMELY important to Russia. They don't want to be cut off from it. Which would have happened, if Putin didn't take action.

It was a geopolitical play for Russia.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
It isnt incorrect, i can give you clear examples of how further conflict could spring up in europe which would result in the US being at war with russia. Foreign policy isnt done on idea of “russia has no desire” its done in cost/benefit and risk management.


And nato expansion had nothing to do with why this war happened in the first place. Was it nato expansion that cause russia to annex crimea?


However many millions US conflicts have killed in the last 50 years also has nothing to do with this.
Russia annexed Crimea because Crimeans wanted to leave Ukraine because Ukraine made it insufferable for Russians. How is this hard to comprehend?

Ukraine passed really bullchit language laws and had fascists marching in the streets. The Russians in Ukraine were sick of the "anticommunist" fascist movements that had taken over.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Give a bunch of vatniks shovels and Vodka and anything is possible
this is true.
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So why didn't Russia take all of Georgia? Why did they stop at Ossetia?
we ran out of Vodka.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
This means the European Union and the United States will have to match their production capabilities so we're starting a new arms race. We just couldn't leave Ukraine alone we had to get involved.....
There will be no "arms race", Russia has the GDP of a middle-tier European country. EU + US crushes them.
Originally Posted By BrianBerletic⏩
Source? Kremlin talking points sent you this AM?
It's ****ing hilarious. These morons keep saying Russia had no intentions of doing anything else when their goons were stupid enough to publicly show Moldova was planned to be next.

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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
So why didn't Russia take all of Georgia? Why did they stop at Ossetia?
they got what they wanted and left, no need to take all of georgia. but that doesnt mean that all russia was/is looking for in ukraine is the donbas.

especially in the baltics, if anything like what happened in georgia or now in ukraine happens, it will mean nato is at war with russia. i dont want nato to be at war with russia.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
Yeh I liked George and Uzbekistan a lot. The people are super friendly.

Azerbaijan has gone a bit *****.

I tihink the security situation in South Russia can be dangerous at times. Yeh, Magadan and Tuva are quite extreme places to visit; although a lot of my work friends lived and worked on Sakhalin island.
yep, Georgia is probably the only place in the near-Asian post-Soviet countries where you can live for a while. in azerbaijan, only baku looks so beautiful, rich.
Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
Fuark poor merlen90, that's brutal.
no water, no light, no heat, no money. For the 10th month now, instead of food, only vodka with a portrait of Zelensky.
What other fantasies can you share?
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
they got what they wanted and left, no need to take all of georgia. but that doesnt mean that all russia was/is looking for in ukraine is the donbas.

especially in the baltics, if anything like what happened in georgia or now in ukraine happens, it will mean nato is at war with russia. i dont want nato to be at war with russia.
What was so important in Ossetia that Russia stopped there, what did they get?
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Originally Posted By Sell2win⏩
Russia annexed Crimea because Crimeans wanted to leave Ukraine because Ukraine made it insufferable for Russians. How is this hard to comprehend?

Ukraine passed really bullchit language laws and had fascists marching in the streets. The Russians in Ukraine were sick of the "anticommunist" fascist movements that had taken over.
ukraine mad it insufferable for russians? wtf are you talking about? when was there wide spread conflict between russians and ukrainians in crimea before russias involvement? i know for a fact thats horse**** because i have a russian client here in toronto whos from sevastopol and what he has told me completly contradicts that.


and by this logic, then what if the ethinic russian majority regions of the baltic states decide they want to leave and join russia because "anticommunism" and "fascism"? what do we as nato do about that?
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
ukraine mad it insufferable for russians? wtf are you talking about? when was there wide spread conflict between russians and ukrainians in crimea before russias involvement? i know for a fact thats horse**** because i have a russian client here in toronto whos from sevastopol and what he has told me completly contradicts that.


and by this logic, then what if the ethinic russian majority regions of the baltic states decide they want to leave and join russia because "anticommunism" and "fascism"? what do we as nato do about that?
Not worth engaging wincel, he, just like the others is constantly rotating the same bullchit talking points.
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I was thinking now that if Putin and his political technologists had come up with "anti-Communists" instead of "fascists" in 2014, he would have gotten at least 5% support from people over 70 in Ukraine, instead of 0% now.
Originally Posted By Sell2win⏩
Russia annexed Crimea because Crimeans wanted to leave Ukraine because Ukraine made it insufferable for Russians. How is this hard to comprehend?

Ukraine passed really bullchit language laws and had fascists marching in the streets. The Russians in Ukraine were sick of the "anticommunist" fascist movements that had taken over.
It's much simpler, people wanted salaries and pensions like in Russia, which at that time were higher than in Ukraine.
Many later regretted it.
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Pressure on #Bakhmut (Artemovsk) is growing. #Russia
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
I like how Zelensky wore boots and his green, blue collar pseudo combat gear to the White House. More comfirmation this nothing but the most extensive acting job in history. Maybe your wife could have bought you a suit when she was spending 40K in France during her shopping spree.
lmao at Chadlensky's RENT FREE apartment in your retarded melon.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Russia is a piss tier country with a army full of old men and rusty AK's and no ecomony, Yet they are threatening all of Europe and the depleting NATO.

Talk about efficient. I wish you guys to keep your story straight.
You just made the nazi npc's blue screen

Give them a few minutes to reboot
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