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post 1673898563 12-31-2022, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
Option 3- stay out of it. If the rest of Europe is concerned- specifically the Germans and the Poles, let them ramp up their militaries and defend themselves. God knows, the Germans know how to militarize, unless of course all the tough men died and all thats left is left wing, metrosexual limp wristed ph^ggots. Either way, zeto fuks given. All I hear is that Russians are incompetent drunk vatniks- you are telling me the whole of Europe; the English, French, Germans, Italians and Poles cant deal with them?

Fukin ph^ggots.
Ukraine itself is dealing with Russia. All that needs to happen is continued support and giving Ukraine what equipment it ask for. More bodies isn’t what is needed for this modern war.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
Option 3- stay out of it. If the rest of Europe is concerned- specifically the Germans and the Poles, let them ramp up their militaries and defend themselves. God knows, the Germans know how to militarize, unless of course all the tough men died and all thats left is left wing, metrosexual limp wristed ph^ggots. Either way, zeto fuks given. All I hear is that Russians are incompetent drunk vatniks- you are telling me the whole of Europe; the English, French, Germans, Italians and Poles cant deal with them?

Fukin ph^ggots.
True
Originally Posted By chalup
Ukraine itself is dealing with Russia. All that needs to happen is continued support and giving Ukraine what equipment it ask for. More bodies isn’t what is needed for this modern war.
True
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
Option 3- stay out of it. If the rest of Europe is concerned- specifically the Germans and the Poles, let them ramp up their militaries and defend themselves. God knows, the Germans know how to militarize, unless of course all the tough men died and all thats left is left wing, metrosexual limp wristed ph^ggots. Either way, zeto fuks given. All I hear is that Russians are incompetent drunk vatniks- you are telling me the whole of Europe; the English, French, Germans, Italians and Poles cant deal with them?

Fukin ph^ggots.
Cool story vatnik
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post 1673903373 12-31-2022, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup
Ukraine itself is dealing with Russia. All that needs to happen is continued support and giving Ukraine what equipment it ask for. More bodies isn’t what is needed for this modern war.
That is not Ukraine itself dealing with Russia.

It's a temporary solution that causes a much larger and longer problem that is not in US citizens best interest. The US is taking on Europe's problems and in turn engulfs east Ukraine into Russia and neuters Europe's industry and military capabilities.

You'll find no clearer statement on the outcome of our involvement
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post 1673903703 12-31-2022, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop
Lol at thinking I'll even entertain pretending to be for Russia, you bald fuk.
There might be something to "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" though.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
Option 3- stay out of it. If the rest of Europe is concerned- specifically the Germans and the Poles, let them ramp up their militaries and defend themselves. God knows, the Germans know how to militarize, unless of course all the tough men died and all thats left is left wing, metrosexual limp wristed ph^ggots. Either way, zeto fuks given. All I hear is that Russians are incompetent drunk vatniks- you are telling me the whole of Europe; the English, French, Germans, Italians and Poles cant deal with them?

Fukin ph^ggots.
This guy is a total moron, and nothing he suggests should be taken seriously. No, the US should not abandon NATO or the security framework it protects. We simply shouldn't be expanding it against Russia's interests. This dude is retarded. He wants NATO completely gone, which he doesn't realize would lead to nuclearization of NATO members and insane proliferation risks.
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Originally Posted By chalup
Ukraine itself is dealing with Russia. All that needs to happen is continued support and giving Ukraine what equipment it ask for.
lol what.
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Originally Posted By HappyNewWincel
This guy is a total moron, and nothing he suggests should be taken seriously. No, the US should not abandon NATO or the security framework it protects. We simply shouldn't be expanding it against Russia's interests. This dude is retarded. He wants NATO completely gone, which he doesn't realize would lead to nuclearization of NATO members and insane proliferation risks.
LOL

No he's right. NATO needs to end.
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post 1673906783 01-01-2023, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
I'm not even saying that NATO needs to end. NATO has requirements and a minimum commitment that many members didnt even make until Trump pressed them. Any post WWII deals that were made preventing certain European countries from building up militarily need to be ended. We can't live indefinitely in the shadow of World War II with the US carrying all the weight. At some point in time other countries have to build up and be a balancing force.

Same goes for Japan, there is no reason why they shouldn't build-up their military as a counterweight to China and not rely on us. I almost think it's a long term strategy for Europe and Japan to lean on the US Empire and watch us spend ourselves into oblivion.
No reason Japan shouldn't build up its military? Are you aware of how xenophobic Japan still is? No. They should not be rearmed until they fully liberalize. It is not a counterweight to anything. It will provoke a catastrophic war between China and Japan. We need to wait at least another 50 yrs to rearm Japan. If even.

We can't have it both ways. We made a choice to be hegemon, and being hegemon means offering protection. If we abandon Europe, there will soon be great power clashes again between France, UK and Germany. The status quo is STABLE. Should they all pay more for defense? Absolutely, and they are doing so now in response to Ukraine. Any doubt in NATO's importance has been erased as a result of this war.

NATO is a quasistable option. We just don't need to expand it. Ultimately, we should have a global integrated security framework that properly includes every country. It wouldn't be run by NATO, but NATO would be a valued member.

Could the EU perhaps form their own framework and leave NATO? Maybe. But not anytime soon.

We do live in the shadow of WW2. We will be under its shadow probably for hundreds of years to come. This war is quite literally yet another consequence of WW2.

Putin doesn't want NATO gone. He wants NATO to fuk off and stop trying to encircle Russia. Everyone recognizes the importance of NATO.
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Originally Posted By HappyNewWincel
No reason Japan shouldn't build up its military? Are you aware of how xenophobic Japan still is? No. They should not be rearmed until they fully liberalize. It is not a counterweight to anything. It will provoke a catastrophic war between China and Japan. We need to wait at least another 50 yrs to rearm Japan. If even.

We can't have it both ways. We made a choice to be hegemon, and being hegemon means offering protection. If we abandon Europe, there will soon be great power clashes again between France, UK and Germany. The status quo is STABLE. Should they all pay more for defense? Absolutely, and they are doing so now in response to Ukraine. Any doubt in NATO's importance has been erased as a result of this war.

NATO is a quasistable option. We just don't need to expand it. Ultimately, we should have a global integrated security framework that properly includes every country. It wouldn't be run by NATO, but NATO would be a valued member.

Could the EU perhaps form their own framework and leave NATO? Maybe. But not anytime soon.

We do live in the shadow of WW2. We will be under its shadow probably for hundreds of years to come. This war is quite literally yet another consequence of WW2.

Putin doesn't want NATO gone. He wants NATO to fuk off and stop trying to encircle Russia. Everyone recognizes the importance of NATO.
Lol at the anti-Japanese gobble-dee-gook.
Chinese Communist Party stooge detected.
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remember guise, russia be evil n sheeeeeeeeeit
post 1673909653 01-01-2023, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
LOL

No he's right. NATO needs to end.
Spoken like a true russian shill. 10 rubles have been deposited in your account.
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Originally Posted By HappyNewWincel
With any luck, we'll have something modern and sustainable that resembles neither of the past models. I hope to see more green reforms for sustainable development. Perhaps we could also have shorter work weeks, UBI, and more technological assistance for various jobs. I'd really like to see universal healthcare and better education standards, programs, and opportunities as well.
Green reforms result in an unreliable energy grid (Except for nuclear).

UBI is a completely nonsense idea, it causes inflation and negative demographic effects.

Universal healthcare does not work and becomes a Ponzi scheme. Trust me I have to deal with the NHS.

I do think Americans need to reform their work practises, I was workig with Americans on my last project and I felt bad telling them about my trips to Thailand and Bali. It's like telling a bird trapped in a cage.

Education is an interesting one, because at the root of educational success is culture. You need people with the right culture to develop into educated people. I was not a typical guy to become highly educated, I liked sports and playing video games. My dad literally beat education into me in a way not otherwise seen in the western world. I'm now one of the most educated people i know. If you don't have the culture of education, improving the system won't help.

Technological assistance, or autonomy will definitely increase. It will be a growth area in the future, especially as workers price themselves out of lower paid/skilled jobs with minimum wage politics.
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Originally Posted By chalup
Ukraine itself is dealing with Russia. All that needs to happen is continued support and giving Ukraine what equipment it ask for. More bodies isn’t what is needed for this modern war.



1. Dealing withitself
2. Needs continued support and equipment


Okay then.
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ukrene is a chit hole, always has been too

Russia is gonna clean that chit hole once and for all
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Originally Posted By chalup
Ukraine itself is dealing with Russia. All that needs to happen is continued support and giving Ukraine what equipment it ask for. More bodies isn’t what is needed for this modern war.
10/10 trolling with this completely nonsensical post
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Gentlemen, there are no nazis in Ukraine. It is Kremlin propaganda. We must stand with Ukraine. This is good vs evil. It's about democracy vs autocracy. We must fund Zelensky in whatever way we can. NATO is a defensive alliance. You can watch my opinions on MSNPC or read about them in my latest book.
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
ukrene is a chit hole, always has been too

Russia is gonna clean that chit hole once and for all
Ukraine is a democracy fighting for its independence against a corrupt autocratic mafia state. Putin is a dictator who seeks to rebuild the USSR. But he is also mentally ill and unable to effectively plan an invasion of even a single former Soviet state.
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Spend NYE at 18 °C, well that was a first for me here in Germany.
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup
lol what.
Ukraine is taking care of Russia all by itself but needs a constant supply of billions of dollars and military equipment from other people.
LOf’nL
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Beautiful, just beautiful

Ucroine truly is a first world country






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Soon to be repopulated with people from Africa, Middle East, India and China
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At the end of 2022, Russia triumphantly returned to the top ten strongest economies in the world.

Russia is now in ninth place, ahead of Italy, Brazil and South Korea. By the way, last year Russia ranked 11th.

The rouble has been recognized as one of the strongest currencies in the world and no, this is not a New Year's joke. Unlike, by the way, the pound sterling, which has become the most unstable this year. Britain has also fallen in the economic rankings. It was overtaken for the first time in history by its former colony, India.

Sanctions are definitely working😁
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Originally Posted By memcop
Lol at thinking I'll even entertain pretending to be for Russia, you bald fuk.
Come on bro... jump in the waters nice.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
Come on bro... jump in the waters nice.
nah his programming is too strong im afraid, he also believes the bucha story and whatnot
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
At the end of 2022, Russia triumphantly returned to the top ten strongest economies in the world.

Russia is now in ninth place, ahead of Italy, Brazil and South Korea. By the way, last year Russia ranked 11th.

The rouble has been recognized as one of the strongest currencies in the world and no, this is not a New Year's joke. Unlike, by the way, the pound sterling, which has become the most unstable this year. Britain has also fallen in the economic rankings. It was overtaken for the first time in history by its former colony, India.

Sanctions are definitely working😁
Nice sources, boyo. Unfortunately reality looks different than your made up stuff

From 27th December: New sanctions starting to bite Russia’s economy as Moscow admits deficit impact.

Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov reportedly told journalists Tuesday that an oil price cap imposed by the Group of Seven major economies is squeezing Russian export income and will potentially push Moscow’s budget deficit higher than the expected 2% of GDP next year.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/27/new-...it-impact.html

From 28th December: Russian ruble slides to level not seen since April as Moscow concedes sanctions are squeezing the economy

The value of the ruble tumbled sharply against the U.S. dollar Wednesday on signs that the latest wave of sanctions by Western countries are beginning to impact Russia’s economy.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ru...my-11672229698

Sorry that russia is going to futher tumble into 3rd world chithole status m8
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