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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
you are coping.



but as of right now, in reality, USA being moved off reserve currency status is a start. US money printing in the last decade has gone completely insane at the expense of everyone else in the world.

There cannot be a worst reserve currency holder than America.


China could be a welcome change. we shall see.
I could be wrong, the world is complex and don't forget there are more actors than only china and US fighting for dominance and power in this world. So far I don't see it for China being the absolute power.

Also you really want this China to rule the world? We all hate western clown world but the social credit system in China and many other things sound worse and reminds me of 1984.
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I seen that. Interesting point of view. I do hope he is correct.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
That was just with regards to one point(Xi being ever more isolated). I do think it’s very likely we can gather information about tons of stuff regarding their agenda via electronic surveillance. That being said, it’s quite possible we aren’t as tapped into China as we are we others, and not as much as he makes it seem. Still, we are tapped in and I think his point of Ci isolating himself is valid. He makes lots of interesting points with regards to global issues and policies we can expect to see unfold over the next decade and is obviously more informed on the macro aspect of it all than anyone here. Still, I’d be interested to see his predictions from the past and see how they’ve played out.
Bro he says they've bugged the Presidential office where xi jinping resides. Number 1, do you really think that's true? And number 2, if it was true....you think the US government would tell an analyst about it and let him go on the most listened to podcast in the world and openly say that? Come on.
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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
GDP will not decline as wages rise.

Chinse are moving into more high tech and innovation.


the population was only needed for cheap labor and that's being offloaded to SEA and Africa.
True China wants to transition to high tech and innovation but Zeihan says this about that subject.



Cliffs: China only capable of making low tech and still strongly dependent on western know how
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Originally Posted By Uhyeahokay
Guy was making chit up the whole time and Joe didn't even pull him up on it.
What was he making up? I've seen Zeihan in other videos where I think he's exaggerating the pace China's population will go down, but other than that he's basically just relating data that's readily available to find elsewhere. There are of course so many unforeseen things that can happen in the world (like an ironclad alliance with Russia for food and energy security much stronger than now) that throw his predictions off course, but as things stand right now his predictions are on the correct trajectory.
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Henry Kissinger predicts WW3 will begin this year too.

This guy has a great track record
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Originally Posted By ****inator
I could be wrong, the world is complex and don't forget there are more actors than only china and US fighting for dominance and power in this world. So far I don't see it for China being the absolute power.

Also you really want this China to rule the world? We all hate western clown world but the social credit system in China and many other things sound worse and reminds me of 1984.
I honestly love China. I lived there.


The only reason I don't want to go back there is 100% due to beauty. The women are so ugly.


but the society as a whole is very good for the average citizen. You can say whatever you want(except against the government). In America, you can't say chit to blacks, hispanics, asians, women, LGBTQ etc etc. You are less free in your speech.

You are held prisoner by criminals running amuck.

You are oppressed by billionaires. The only people the CCP government oppress are billionaires so they cannot oppress the workers.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
True China wants to transition to high tech and innovation but Zeihan says this about that subject.



Cliffs: China only capable of making low tech and still strongly dependent on western know how
delusional cope based on 1 niche market.

facts, China has completely leapfrogged US in terms of INNOVATION. USA doesn't even have real 5 G lmao

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Originally Posted By Tuga88
Bro he says they've bugged the Presidential office where xi jinping resides. Number 1, do you really think that's true? And number 2, if it was true....you think the US government would tell an analyst about it and let him go on the most listened to podcast in the world and openly say that? Come on.
Did he say we literally planted a bug in his office, or that we are listening in to his conversations? Because it seems quite feasible that we have electronic surveillance on many places around the world, including China. Think about the technology we know about, and then realize we have stuff that is far FAR more advanced than any of that.

And if he says it on a podcast does that change anything? Do you think China is unaware that we are actively trying to monitor them?
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China is the manufacturing hub for the entire planet. Them shutting down is absurd. Walmart and Amazon alone will fuel them for 100 more years.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Did he say we literally planted a bug in his office, or that we are listening in to his conversations? Because it seems quite feasible that we have electronic surveillance on many places around the world, including China. Think about the technology we know about, and then realize we have stuff that is far FAR more advanced than any of that.

And if he says it on a podcast does that change anything? Do you think China is unaware that we are actively trying to monitor them?
your tech is dated. US is behind in terms of tech.

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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
delusional cope based on 1 niche market.

facts, China has completely leapfrogged US in terms of INNOVATION. USA doesn't even have real 5 G lmao

Patents doesn't say that much, as you can see Japan was dominating the world in patents in the 2000's, yet its economy was dead and stopped growing since the 90's.

Also inevitable China would dominate in absolute numbers since they have so many people.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Did he say we literally planted a bug in his office, or that we are listening in to his conversations? Because it seems quite feasible that we have electronic surveillance on many places around the world, including China. Think about the technology we know about, and then realize we have stuff that is far FAR more advanced than any of that.

And if he says it on a podcast does that change anything? Do you think China is unaware that we are actively trying to monitor them?
When you look at the publicly available info on smart dust, it makes you really wonder what we have that is still hush hush.
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I don't think China is taking over because rich hot girls still don't want to be seen with Asian men. This hasn't changed over thousands of years.
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The dude is a grifter.

100% chance he's coincidentally promoting his book.

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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24
I don't think China is taking over because rich hot girls still don't want to be seen with Asian men. This hasn't changed over thousands of years.
when mongols ruled, women flocked to men with red shield faces.



now Asian men are emerging again, a lot of young girls are into Asian men. this phenom explains why i can't stop slaying white jb at 40
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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
GDP will not decline as wages rise.

Chinse are moving into more high tech and innovation.


the population was only needed for cheap labor and that's being offloaded to SEA and Africa.
GDP is already stagnating and with the upside down demographics that's going to be a huge monkey on their economic backs. China is still a middle income country as a whole, so they have to escape that first to come out ahead. Thank goodness for their intellectual property theft or they'd be totally fuked with technology. That theft isn't going to change, so they have that going for them. And they'll likely figure out making high end chips in the next decade by paying westerners exorbitant amounts of money. Rooting out thieves for China at western research universities will be difficult, and must be accelerated. If there's anything that will give China a strong future it will be helper AI robots, which will have to be really, really advanced and be heavily deployed. But that also gets us into the realm of what is still relatively science fiction.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
Birth rate dropping below replacement
Not enough young workers to keep economy going
Not enough wealth to support retirees
Same issues as the west, but apparently China is in a far worst position according to this geopolitical scientist. Their innovation has hit a wall. Labor costs have risen sharply and now Mexico is twice a skilled and 3x as cheap as Chinese labor. The Golden Bull has 10 years left “at most.”

But then I’ve heard people like Ray Dalio suggest China is the next global superpower empire which can rule for hundreds of years. So who the fuk knows what to believe.

Interesting video though. BRB checking out the full podcast.
China has been going strong for about 10,000 years, lol.

Also, anyone who saying that a country is going to "collapse" is an idiot.

We have a fiat currency meaning it's fake money to manipulate idiots into working. So, you can't run out of fake.

Allen Watts the UK philosopher said that our money is like "inches" and as if someone said we will run out of inches if we keep measuring things.

In addition, what country has "collapsed" even though people keep predicting this doom for many many decades?
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the elite of the world are such a dense aristocracy that their entire financial system could collapse and they'd make it through no issue.
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lmao @ copium from the failing empire

the Golden Bull can and will take a dump on your lawn
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
China has been going strong for about 10,000 years, lol.

Also, anyone who saying that a country is going to "collapse" is an idiot.

We have a fiat currency meaning it's fake money to manipulate idiots into working. So, you can't run out of fake.

Allen Watts the UK philosopher said that our money is like "inches" and as if someone said we will run out of inches if we keep measuring things.

In addition, what country has "collapsed" even though people keep predicting this doom for many many decades?
So the guest has no idea what he’s talking about? He just seems smarter, hotter, and more informed on the issue than you. And you call him an idiot?!!!!
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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
your tech is dated. US is behind in terms of tech.
Lol…only reason China is even remotely close to the conversation is because it has stolen from actual innovators for the past 20+ years. Your sh!t is falling apart. Other countries rely on you for cheap garbage. You rely on other countries for energy and food. Guess who needs who more….
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
China has been going strong for about 10,000 years, lol.

Also, anyone who saying that a country is going to "collapse" is an idiot.

We have a fiat currency meaning it's fake money to manipulate idiots into working. So, you can't run out of fake.

Allen Watts the UK philosopher said that our money is like "inches" and as if someone said we will run out of inches if we keep measuring things.

In addition, what country has "collapsed" even though people keep predicting this doom for many many decades?
Yeah Zeihan over dramatizes everything and uses a lot of hyperbole.

Decline is a better word for what he is saying, not collapse.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
China has been going strong for about 10,000 years, lol.

Also, anyone who saying that a country is going to "collapse" is an idiot.

We have a fiat currency meaning it's fake money to manipulate idiots into working. So, you can't run out of fake.

Allen Watts the UK philosopher said that our money is like "inches" and as if someone said we will run out of inches if we keep measuring things.

In addition, what country has "collapsed" even though people keep predicting this doom for many many decades?
Yeah and people are ignoring two elephants in the room, China has been buying insane amounts of physical gold and they basically own insanely resource-rich Africa now; I also have heard they’re making in-roads into south and Central America as well

Meanwhile we import genetic runoff from the third world and worry about pronouns
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
lol…only reason china is even remotely close to the conversation is because it has stolen from actual innovators for the past 20+ years. Your sh!t is falling apart. Other countries rely on you for cheap garbage. You rely on other countries for energy and food. Guess who needs who more….
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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
I honestly love China. I lived there.


The only reason I don't want to go back there is 100% due to beauty. The women are so ugly.


but the society as a whole is very good for the average citizen. You can say whatever you want(except against the government). In America, you can't say chit to blacks, hispanics, asians, women, LGBTQ etc etc. You are less free in your speech.

You are held prisoner by criminals running amuck.

You are oppressed by billionaires. The only people the CCP government oppress are billionaires so they cannot oppress the workers.
What to you think happens to the average person if they call astronauts ni66as in the US? Absolutely nothing. My wife has been called a ***** by angry clientele and nothing happens to them, she just walks away. People who get in trouble are celebrities and politicians for wrongthink. Clown world is pervasive no doubt, but it doesn't actually affect the average person. That I know of I've met probably only a handful of trans people in my entire life, even though I've traveled a hell of a lot and used to bartend where I'd come across dozens to hundreds of people per night. The hype about the alphabet people is background noise propagated up by our corporate media, media which is dying because of lost credibility. ESG investing is dying and thank jeebus for that. The "you will own nothing and be happy" crap by the WEF is concerning but not a real threat any time soon.

The US goes in cycles when it comes to crime. The 1970s-early 90s = holy fuk, way worse than now, except maybe property theft is worse now. The CCP oppresses billionaires because they are a threat to the CCP. The US has plenty of problems for sure, but

you're deflecting, which shows you don't have as strong a grasp on the matters being discussed as you are pretending.

FWIW I think Zeihan is off on the timing of his predictions, but China is going to fade in its world significance. Besides, most of the rest of the world doesn't have faith in a country that rules with so much centralized government. Try as Democrats will, we're not going to allow the western world to follow China's lead into '1984.'





Nice join date and username, BTW. Lulz.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
China has been going strong for about 10,000 years, lol.

Also, anyone who saying that a country is going to "collapse" is an idiot.

We have a fiat currency meaning it's fake money to manipulate idiots into working. So, you can't run out of fake.

Allen Watts the UK philosopher said that our money is like "inches" and as if someone said we will run out of inches if we keep measuring things.

In addition, what country has "collapsed" even though people keep predicting this doom for many many decades?
Not sure if I’d say China has been going strong for 10,000 years. How many great empires emerged from China during that time? For the vast majority of the time they’ve just been poverty and not really done much. Hell just last century they were absolutely decimated by sheer incompetence on no one’s part but their own.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20
What to you think happens to the average person if they call astronauts ni66as in the US? Absolutely nothing. My wife has been called a ***** by angry clientele and nothing happens to them, she just walks away. People who get in trouble are celebrities and politicians for wrongthink. Clown world is pervasive no doubt, but it doesn't actually affect the average person. That I know of I've met probably only a handful of trans people in my entire life, even though I've traveled a hell of a lot and used to bartend where I'd come across dozens to hundreds of people per night. The hype about the alphabet people is background noise propagated up by our corporate media, media which is dying because of lost credibility. ESG investing is dying and thank jeebus for that. The "you will own nothing and be happy" crap by the WEF is concerning but not a real threat any time soon.

The US goes in cycles when it comes to crime. The 1970s-early 90s = holy fuk, way worse than now, except maybe property theft is worse now. The CCP oppresses billionaires because they are a threat to the CCP. The US has plenty of problems for sure, but

you're deflecting, which shows you don't have as strong a grasp on the matters being discussed as you are pretending.

FWIW I think Zeihan is off on the timing of his predictions, but China is going to fade in its world significance. Besides, most of the rest of the world doesn't have faith in a country that rules with so much centralized government. Try as Democrats will, we're not going to allow the western world to follow China's lead into '1984.'





Nice join date and username, BTW. Lulz.
what kind of mentally deluded cope is this?


I seen white people(kids, men and women) beaten into the ground blood dripping, hair yanked for even implying the N-word.

you cuckolds lose your entire livelihood over chit like this. CEOs have to step down.


you think the same thing happens in China? The negros toe their line in China.
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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
what kind of mentally deluded cope is this?


I seen white people(kids, men and women) beaten into the ground blood dripping, hair yanked for even implying the N-word.

you cuckolds lose your entire livelihood over chit like this. CEOs have to step down.


you think the same thing happens in China? The negros toe their line in China.
Probably not going to beatdown a group of Chinese citizens. Don’t they all know karate?
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