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post 1676264213 01-31-2023, 03:42 PM
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I cant believe how much cyber security geeks get paid

Fuarrrrrrk is it time for me to get on that cyber security time?

where do I start??
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Originally Posted By Mikuljordan⏩
Fuarrrrrrk is it time for me to get on that cyber security time?

where do I start??
And, we get to work from home.
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How much? I'm in IT, but not cyber security.
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Originally Posted By sloop⏩
And, we get to work from home.
bro I have no IT experience, will I have to start from the bottom (IT help desk etc) or can I just get a few certs and go straight into that high cyber security salary time?
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Originally Posted By Mikuljordan⏩
Fuarrrrrrk is it time for me to get on that cyber security time?

where do I start??
1.) stop crying
2.) fist yourself
3.) get degree and network and get certs
4.) ???
5.) profit
post 1676267623 01-31-2023, 04:30 PM
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Too late.

THe guys with lots of experience are getting good money. New grads like new coding grads are a dime a dozen.
post 1676267773 01-31-2023, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
1.) stop crying
2.) fist yourself
3.) get degree and network and get certs
4.) ???
5.) profit
I ain’t getting a degree, too old for that chit plus not paying daddy government. Ill get certs but fuk a degree
Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
How much? I'm in IT, but not cyber security.
Im in UK and you have to realize that salaries here are substantially lower than US. And im seeing £156k/$200k, that’s probably like the equivalent of a US 400k
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How much do they get paid? According to Google average is like 90-120k range. A solid income, but not way massive.
post 1676267853 01-31-2023, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Mikuljordan⏩
bro I have no IT experience, will I have to start from the bottom (IT help desk etc) or can I just get a few certs and go straight into that high cyber security salary time?
If I were just starting out I would get the CISSP cert or even the CCSP.

Its not unrealistic to start at $50/hr with either of those.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
How much do they get paid? According to Google average is like 90-120k range. A solid income, but not way massive.
The money is in open contracts. You try to find exploits and send them to the company to fix. The downside is the other people can also do them. So you might spend 10 hours working on it then all of a sudden the contract is closed since someone else finished first.
post 1676267963 01-31-2023, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
How much do they get paid? According to Google average is like 90-120k range. A solid income, but not way massive.
Dang that’s kinda low, the salary seems to be better here in UK
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These jobs are a meme and we're in a bubble. Big Tech has realized it and now laying off thousands.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
How much do they get paid? According to Google average is like 90-120k range. A solid income, but not way massive.
Doesn't require a college degree. A couple of certs and you make double what a tradie makes.

lol at tradies.

srs
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post 1676268373 01-31-2023, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By sloop⏩
If I were just starting out I would get the CISSP cert or even the CCSP.

Its not unrealistic to start at $50/hr with either of those.
Thanks dawg will look into this

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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Doesn't require a college degree. A couple of certs and you make double what a tradie makes.

lol at tradies.

srs
Is it that common to be able to just get a "couple of certs", have no degree, not have actual work experience in the field and...just be able to walk into a job like that?

I have serious doubts, boyo. I certainly could be wrong though, but if that were the case I'd imagine the field would already be saturated by now.
post 1676269153 01-31-2023, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Is it that common to be able to just get a "couple of certs", have no degree, not have actual work experience in the field and...just be able to walk into a job like that?

I have serious doubts, boyo. I certainly could be wrong though, but if that were the case I'd imagine the field would already be saturated by now.
My stylist's current bf was a painter, took about 18 months worth of certs, and is now pulling down $75k as a cyber security dude. And for real, companies like mine are constantly getting attempted hacks so these IT tradies actually have some use. I'd much rather pay a couple hundred grand for a team of cyber tradies than have to explain to my Board why my company got hacked and try to recover from that.
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post 1676269193 01-31-2023, 04:50 PM
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$400k seems like a huge stretch unless you're some genius in IT. Realistically, you could hit 120-150k/yr pretty fast. If you're really good, you can also have a side hustle of doing bug bounties.

Takes a lot to be in good cybersecurity because there is so much you have to understand. Plus a lot of the work is on blue side, which is boring.

Realistically, you could get a few certs and start as a security analyst, then work your way up accordingly. No need for degree or help desk job.
post 1676269243 01-31-2023, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
My stylist's current bf was a painter, took about 18 months worth of certs, and is now pulling down $75k as a cyber security dude. And for real, companies like mine are constantly getting attempted hacks so these IT tradies actually have some use. I'd much rather pay a couple hundred grand for a team of cyber tradies than have to explain to my Board why my company got hacked and try to recover from that.
What company do you run that it's getting attacks?

The only attempts to hacks I know of are my fookn BOA debit card. Chits always getting hax. srs.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Doesn't require a college degree. A couple of certs and you make double what a tradie makes.

lol at tradies.

srs
If only it was that easy. Cybersec isn't easy to get in with no tech experience
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Originally Posted By Mikuljordan⏩
I ain’t getting a degree, too old for that chit plus not paying daddy government. Ill get certs but fuk a degree



Im in UK and you have to realize that salaries here are substantially lower than US. And im seeing £156k/$200k, that’s probably like the equivalent of a US 400k
Strong math. $200k pounds is like $246k USD
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Originally Posted By outfoxxed⏩
If only it was that easy. Cybersec isn't easy to get in with no tech experience
For real, my stylist bf did just what I said. He's not making $100k but he's doing ok for a former painter, particularly to start.

And any company that uses or has tremendous amounts of data gets hacking attempts constantly. Most are stupid attempts like getting some derp to email their password, but big companies have more derps working for them than you can imagine.
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They get paid good but there are better. DevSecOps and Data Engineers get paid more. Cloud Engineers also make bank if you know all 3 major cloud providers and a little bit of OCI. It's all about leveraging your skills.

In the end, the software engineers will always be the rock stars. They make 200k and up. It's rare but some make 500k up to 1 million. Another way to make bank is to go into IT management. It's stressful AF but I've seen job postings for 1 million salary. LOL
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Originally Posted By sloop⏩
If I were just starting out I would get the CISSP cert or even the CCSP.

Its not unrealistic to start at $50/hr with either of those.
You need 5 years of work experience in It to get either one of those certs

That's hardly "just starting out"
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
How much do they get paid? According to Google average is like 90-120k range. A solid income, but not way massive.
Yeah my work pays cyber guys for the SOC about 90k, and they keep leaving once they get experience to make more.
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Originally Posted By FederalWorker⏩
You need 5 years of work experience in It to get either one of those certs

That's hardly "just starting out"
And you have to get another CISSP to “sponsor”
You so you have to know someone
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Originally Posted By FederalWorker⏩
You need 5 years of work experience in It to get either one of those certs

That's hardly "just starting out"
Originally Posted By desslok⏩
And you have to get another CISSP to “sponsor”
You so you have to know someone
This sounds way more like reality than the just "get certified and walk into a great career in 2023" narrative.
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you won’t get hired without a degree or work experience. You will have to work as help desk type chit and work your way up. Look into getting comptia security+ certificate.

cybersecurity is also a huge field, you could do IT auditing as well which is entry level.

check out this site, has lots of information to get you started in the field:
https://www.cyberseek.org/pathway.html
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Originally Posted By sloop⏩
If I were just starting out I would get the CISSP cert or even the CCSP.

Its not unrealistic to start at $50/hr with either of those.
Don't listen to this guy. A cert, any cert without experience is worthless. I have guys with all kinds of fancy certs getting me red bulls from 711.

I recommend you get your A+ and Network+ and apply for help desk jobs. The hardest part is getting that first IT job.
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