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post 1677803283 02-23-2023, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
So like high bar vs low bar matters?
Even calf training matters srs
Originally Posted By 4Bertuzzi4⏩
my right inner hip/groin area hurts a day after squatting. Not even that heavy. I find it hard to lift my leg up, like when getting into a car.

What did I do, Misc?
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Squat twice a week because I am not a pussy.

Can't back squat? Front squat extremely important for athletics, hell get some olympic lifts in.
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I've quit doing the big three and TBH I feel and look better. They are just really fatiguing on your CNS/skeletal/muscular system. Unnecessarily so. Especially as you get older. Furthermore, while they make you strong/powerful. Those movements really aren't that practical for day to day life/strength.

When it comes to training legs I have a few favorites that I think are ideal. Plan on doing them into my old age to stay healthy/athletic. I like to train legs 2x per week so I don't have a ton of volume/exercises at one time: Basically 2 of the below exercises. 1 calf exercise and 1 cardio/conditioning exercise.

-Bulgarian Split Squat or Lunge.
-Romanian dead-lift or leg curl or hip thrust.
-Leg extension or DB/Sandbag front squats. (15-20 rep sets at end of workout).



For calves I stick to 15-20 rep ranges for 4-5 sets. No need to go too heavy. Focus on stretch at bottom with a pause and squeezing during peak contraction at top. For conditioning work on leg day dragging/pushing a sled or hill sprints.


I thought I was strong/athletic squatting/dead-lifting big weights. But it takes up so much time to warm up/get ready for working sets. Then fatigues you for the rest of the workout. Furthermore when I tried a Bulg Split Squat or a Lunge I discovered my balance was **** and my strength was weak as hell in that position.

Front squats look something like the below for reference.

post 1677809303 02-23-2023, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
they squat because their retarded S&C coach told them to squat and that's how they keep their job. I am willing to bet their squat numbers does absolute fukk all in reflecting/determining their actual on field ability. Those college kids were athletic long before they ever did a single ghey ass to grass squat.

Squatting doesn't make you athletic. Athletic people are good at squat. Stop confusing the two.
Oh yeah, a football player shouldn't do compound lifts, or clean and jerks, they should do leg extensions, and Smith Machine squats instead, and do Machine military presses, and cable flyes....
post 1677809663 02-23-2023, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Oh yeah, a football player shouldn't do compound lifts, or clean and jerks, they should do leg extensions, and Smith Machine squats instead, and do Machine military presses, and cable flyes....
Football players usually do quarter reps for explosiveness
post 1677809713 02-23-2023, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Oh yeah, a football player shouldn't do compound lifts, or clean and jerks, they should do leg extensions, and Smith Machine squats instead, and do Machine military presses, and cable flyes....
this, but unsarcastically.

an elite football player is elite regardless of whether he chooses to squat or do leg presses, because neither has any sort of real in game impact on his performance. show me a scientific study or real world proof where higher squat # translate to higher performance. You can't, because they do not correlate in any meaningful way.

Sprinting and all its variation will forever be superior to squat for any athletic event/performance.
post 1677809803 02-23-2023, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
Football players usually do quarter reps for explosiveness
it's the same for sprinters. That's another reminder: full rom squat is a retarded meme as well. Quarter squat unironically simulates real life athletic movement more than ass to gay squats.
post 1677814053 02-23-2023, 06:41 PM
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post 1677814403 02-23-2023, 06:45 PM
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Those boomers might have been on to something about squats hurting the knees
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post 1677814443 02-23-2023, 06:45 PM
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It's a great exercise especially ATG.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
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At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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post 1677814563 02-23-2023, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
It's a great exercise especially ATG.
Do the opposite of what he suggests
post 1677814663 02-23-2023, 06:48 PM
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F*ck up my knees every time, hurts the joint the next day a lot.

Terrible back issues.

Recently found out long femur and Short torso make the standard squat really difficult and near impossible with good form.

So I discover KOT (knees over toes) and its changed my entire life.
post 1677814793 02-23-2023, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
It's a great exercise especially ATG.
squatting turns you into a dysgenic mutt midget and next thing you know your dad is cleaning your balls and washing your ass in the shower.

TiMBisonSon endorses squat so you know it's gay.
post 1677814823 02-23-2023, 06:51 PM
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post 1677814853 02-23-2023, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
Do the opposite of what he suggests
But how will you reach your natty limit?
post 1677815573 02-23-2023, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
F*ck up my knees every time, hurts the joint the next day a lot.

Terrible back issues.

Recently found out long femur and Short torso make the standard squat really difficult and near impossible with good form.

So I discover KOT (knees over toes) and its changed my entire life.
Same, tall with a short torso, never felt good squatting. I try throwing in front squats occasionally which help, but overall I dont enjoy the lift.

The hype around squatting is so cringy. I lift for recreation and to stay in shape, I can do that without burning out my cns on full body lifts
post 1677816603 02-23-2023, 07:25 PM
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Squatting makes you stronger, not more athletic. You're either athletic or you're not.

Look at how slow and uncoordinated Piana looked when wrestling smaller guys lol

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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
this, but unsarcastically.

an elite football player is elite regardless of whether he chooses to squat or do leg presses, because neither has any sort of real in game impact on his performance. show me a scientific study or real world proof where higher squat # translate to higher performance. You can't, because they do not correlate in any meaningful way.

Sprinting and all its variation will forever be superior to squat for any athletic event/performance.
A linebacker doesn't need to squat?
post 1677844053 02-24-2023, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
they squat because their retarded S&C coach told them to squat and that's how they keep their job. I am willing to bet their squat numbers does absolute fukk all in reflecting/determining their actual on field ability. Those college kids were athletic long before they ever did a single ghey ass to grass squat.

Squatting doesn't make you athletic. Athletic people are good at squat. Stop confusing the two.
what are betting here??

squatting absolutely increases muscle force and power of the muscle groups best correlated with performance, quads, hamstrings, glutes and is shown to relate to athletic skills such as vertical jump and sprint speed.
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No use arguing with some trolling no avi Timmy.

Just post pics of your legs, talk is cheap Timmy.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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post 1677847683 02-24-2023, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
what are betting here??

squatting absolutely increases muscle force and power of the muscle groups best correlated with performance, quads, hamstrings, glutes and is shown to relate to athletic skills such as vertical jump and sprint speed.
No one argued that squatting doesn't increase force and power. We are arguing that it doesn't make the athlete.

We know it makes no significant difference at the high level because if it did, a powerchitter would be out there breaking the 100m sprint record because of their "force output" even though we know "powerlifting" is a misnomer.

I'm willing to bet a 100m sprinter who trains sprinting 100% of the time will have better result than sprinter B who trains sprint 50% of the time and the other 50% he's doing heavy squat.

Sprinting, Nordic curls, plyos, bulgarian squat, etc., there are so many exercises far superior for athletic development than the memesquat.

the squat is a gym time waster both athletic and aesthetic pursuit. dedfknsrs.
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Originally Posted By 4Bertuzzi4⏩
my right inner hip/groin area hurts a day after squatting. Not even that heavy. I find it hard to lift my leg up, like when getting into a car.

What did I do, Misc?
Get younger bro
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It does not even build the muscles right.

You get like a weirdly large ass with no real strength the way humans use muscles. Upper thighs instead of lower where the muscle we use is most developed, also.
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blackpill: Squat, bench, deadlift make you less athletic and fat lulz.

the real truth all along was bro split + sprinting. Aesthetic AND athletic AF.
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Originally Posted By headturner1⏩
Get younger bro
Wife is 7 years younger. I guess it's time for a 24 year old?
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Originally Posted By 4Bertuzzi4⏩
Wife is 7 years younger. I guess it's time for a 24 year old?
Lifting too heavy.

Most people I know don't understand: Just because you can lift a weight doesn't mean it isn't too heavy for you.

I can lift way more with ****ty form, even if I am inviting injury.

Squat is one of the more complex movements you can do.

Here's an example:

When I try squatting too heavy my dominant leg takes over.

I've been working for a few years trying to bring my left leg up in terms of coordination and ability to generate force.

My left leg is just starting to catch up.

Same with things like balance, anchoring, flexibility etc.

Those things take a long time to build up, and squatting uses all of them.

Squat is one exercise where you don't wanna go in there and start trying to move a bunch of weight around.

Obviously do a challenging weight, but not to where your form suffers.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
No use arguing with some trolling no avi Timmy.

Just post pics of your legs, talk is cheap Timmy.
Let’s see yours then?
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
F*ck up my knees every time, hurts the joint the next day a lot.

Terrible back issues.

Recently found out long femur and Short torso make the standard squat really difficult and near impossible with good form.

So I discover KOT (knees over toes) and its changed my entire life.
Same I do it at the end of my workout and superset it with leg press the key is make 185 feel like 315


There were times I was squatting 3x5 , 3 times a week and I strained my back every 2 months
Fk that exercise srs unless ur a manlet in ur early 20s or bloated powerliftee competing for a bloat meet no reason to do them
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
No one argued that squatting doesn't increase force and power. We are arguing that it doesn't make the athlete.

We know it makes no significant difference at the high level because if it did, a powerchitter would be out there breaking the 100m sprint record because of their "force output" even though we know "powerlifting" is a misnomer.

I'm willing to bet a 100m sprinter who trains sprinting 100% of the time will have better result than sprinter B who trains sprint 50% of the time and the other 50% he's doing heavy squat.

Sprinting, Nordic curls, plyos, bulgarian squat, etc., there are so many exercises far superior for athletic development than the memesquat.

the squat is a gym time waster both athletic and aesthetic pursuit. dedfknsrs.
lmao obviously powerchitting is a joke, not here to argue that.

go google post activation potential and how squatting heavy can lead to improved athletic performance. also most S&C gyms do all those movements listed, PS nordic curls are actually better at injury prevention than athletic performance.

there's a reason why naturally gifted athletes coming fresh outta HS generally redshirt a year with minimal playing time as a freshman, and its to ge those 2 years of S&C under their belt so they can actually compete at a high Level.
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Eh I like squats, and they absolutely do increase explosiveness and athleticism. Pretending otherwise is retarded.

It's deadlifts which I don't bother with, since I get a one way ticket to snap city every time I do them.
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