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Thread: Biden gives another 10 billion to Ukraine after neglecting disaster in Ohio

post 1677907883 02-25-2023, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
One more time. You did NOT want ANY US Government assistance.





Honest to fuking god man do you not have any shame? Where's your dignity ffs? You legit look stupid and you really need to stop.
semantics lol
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
You can’t make this chit up
Bushmaster is proving that yes, you can in fact make this chit up.
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Originally Posted By NKWulf⏩
semantics lol
Lolz.

To many in this country "government assistance" only means cash money. Nothing else counts.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Bushmaster is proving that yes, you can in fact make this chit up.
You’re arguing semantics and it’s lame. Admit wrong take the L and move on
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
You are missing my point. IF a Republican was POTUS and this disaster happened in NY and the POTUS did not send aid? I would criticize the Rep POTUS often and hard (with reckless abandon over and over). To me what happened is a disaster on humanity and mother Earth. Therefore all aid and help should be given to help those in need and to clean it up asap.

But by you and Benny saying "no.....let the city or the state or the railway clean it up and the Feds don't need to get involved"....then you are 100% making it political because Biden is a Dem and Ohio is red and if the situation was reversed (blue state and Red POTUS) IMO you would be all about sending Fed aid.

Whereas I say it shouldn't matter at all what color you are. Just go help them with anything and everything.

I mean....why is the Feds getting involved even in dispute here? This is a no brainer. Clean it up!
I'll take your word on the hypothetical, no way for me to argue against it.

But, you can go back and read my posts about this train derailment. They are all still there. The political discussion I've had was regarding the claims that Trump's deregulation contributed to this and I pointed out he really didn't have anything to do with it.

The only other point I've been making is that I don't believe FEMA should necessarily be handing out cash grants in East Palestine. It's been shown it's not their role in these situations, maybe that will change, but FEMA grants kick in after private insurance settlements are complete. In the mean time, there has been zero problems with getting resources for the cleanup, which is obviously the first priority.
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
You’re arguing semantics and it’s lame. Admit wrong take the L and move on
I corrected your mistake conflating the EPA with FEMA. Deal with it.

What's lame is brushing it off as "semantics" instead of acknowledging the error.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I corrected your mistake conflating the EPA with FEMA. Deal with it.

What's lame is brushing it off as "semantics" instead of acknowledging the error.
Yep, I can own that mistake. Doesn’t change the fact that you leftists were all about the federal government not helping the people of EP. Your position on that is well documented ITT.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
According to the leftist Warhawks, we have to beat Russia!!!!!

Seriously though, he couldn't send a billion or two to Ohio???
With all the aid and equipment that has been given to them, Has the Ukrainian military made any real offense? It's hilarious to see the hypocrisy.
In Hoots We Trust.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Everyone bitching about FEMA doesn't seem to know what they do, but it's right there in the name of the agency.

They are a management agency, i.e. administrators. They make phone calls and fill out paperwork. They don'tdoanything beyond that.



https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/f...glish_2019.pdf
what do you mean?
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Originally Posted By badreligion⏩
With all the aid and equipment that has been given to them, Has the Ukrainian military made any real offense? It's hilarious to see the hypocrisy.
Well.......they need more equipment.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I corrected your mistake conflating the EPA with FEMA.Deal with it.

What's lame is brushing it off as "semantics" instead of acknowledging the error.
Whatever 'tard... Congrats. But him confusing one government agency with the one you absolutely positively did not want in Ohio is not the "gotcha" moment that you so desperately want it to be.

One. More. Time.

You did not want ANY government involvement in Ohio.
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
WTF we love government handouts now.
Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
Poor Ohio not getting their federal government handouts.
Walk away 'tard.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Whatever 'tard... Congrats. But him confusing one government agency with the one you absolutely positively did not want in Ohio is not the "gotcha" moment that you so desperately want it to be.

One. More. Time.

You did not want ANY government involvement in Ohio.






Walk away 'tard.
Try harder dumb dumb.

The government not immediately pouring cash handouts on the problem does not equal the government not being involved at all. I know, I know, that's just confusing you with "semantics".

You're so caught up in whatever the fuk you're arguing about that you can't even keep your thoughts straight in a single post.

Did I not want the one agency in Ohio or did I not want any? Because you're pulling both out of your ass at the same time.
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How can you not agree with this?


If the war expands into the EU, this is going to be a lot more costly than merely taking it to Putin in a satellite state. US equipment is a far more cost effective deal than US lives. In terms of proxy wars, it's with a nation historically on a fairly good terms with us and happily stable.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
How can you not agree with this?


If the war expands into the EU, this is going to be a lot more costly than merely taking it to Putin in a satellite state. US equipment is a far more cost effective deal than US lives. In terms of proxy wars, it's with a nation historically on a fairly good terms with us and happily stable.
What's New Zealand contributing again?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Well.......they need more equipment.
To sell to other countries. They have been caught doing it already.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
How can you not agree with this?


If the war expands into the EU, this is going to be a lot more costly than merely taking it to Putin in a satellite state. US equipment is a far more cost effective deal than US lives. In terms of proxy wars, it's with a nation historically on a fairly good terms with us and happily stable.
Provide transcripts or stfu
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WE DID IT GOYS!!!! BLESS GODDESS YELLEN!!! Now we shall kneel for ANOTHER 10 BILLION!!! GOOD SHEEP WE ARE!!! BLESS ALLLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Try harder dumb dumb.

The government not immediately pouring cash handouts on the problem does not equal the government not being involved at all.I know, I know, that's just confusing you with "semantics".

You're so caught up in whatever the fuk you're arguing about that you can't even keep your thoughts straight in a single post.

Did I not want the one agency in Ohio or did I not want any? Because you're pulling both out of your ass at the same time.
Nobody said anything about cash handouts 'tard.

Your anger is getting the best of you and it's making you look stupid. And tbh, you're doing all the work - I'm just pointing it out for you.
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So, still no word on when Ukraine is becoming the 51st state?
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
What's New Zealand contributing again?
New Zealand sent its hobbits... they all died 5 seconds after the drop trying to set up second breakfast.

Australia provided kangaroo jack-shiit
I will stand firm, I refuse to kneel - The fury in me is divine
My dark grave awaits, my fate is revealed - But I'm not afraid to die

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Originally Posted By nkiritsis13⏩
So, still no word on when Ukraine is becoming the 51st state?

New Zealand sent its hobbits... they all died 5 seconds after the drop trying to set up second breakfast.

Australia provided kangaroo jack-shiit
Haven't you heard? It's actually going to be the 50th state.. Ohio was told to pack it's bags and GTFO.
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Uh oh....
East Palestine residents seeing outreach from FEMA, CDC after derailment

Federal teams including the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will be on the ground in East Palestine, Ohio this weekend conducting door-to-door outreach to support residents impacted by the train derailment.

https://www.axios.com/2023/02/25/eas...lment-outreach
FEMAandCDC up in teh Ohio???

Sorry 'tard, better luck with your partisan outrage goals for the remainder of 2023 though.
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
FEMA assistance is limited by various laws and directives. There are other federal and state agencies that are assisting though.

I've asked this a couple times already, what exactly is needed?

Then maybe instead of this being a joke thread bitching about Biden we can discuss what should be done and who should do it.
I'm glad you're an environmentalist though.
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so i read the soil and water from this spill is being transported to other states for disposal and those states are mad as hell.
I think Texas and Michigan.

how do they even dispose of this stuff?
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
so i read the soil and water from this spill is being transported to other states for disposal and those states are mad as hell.
I think Texas and Michigan.

how do they even dispose of this stuff?
Got me dude... it's almost like there should be a government agency that could help with things like that.
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Everyone bitching about FEMA doesn't seem to know what they do, but it's right there in the name of the agency.

They are a management agency, i.e. administrators. They make phone calls and fill out paperwork. They don'tdoanything beyond that.
FEMA's Fundamental Role:

Our Agency is one player on a large team collaborating to build a more resilient
Nation. We provide a platform for people to build relationships, gather and share
information, and think holistically about disasters. We lead by supporting,
coordinating, and managing personnel, assets, and information. We also offer
tools, guidance, and resources to help individuals and communities review, build,
and continuously improve their own capabilities.
https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/f...glish_2019.pdf
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
so i read the soil and water from this spill is being transported to other states for disposal and those states are mad as hell.
I think Texas and Michigan.

how do they even dispose of this stuff?
It's disposed of at EPA licensed facilities. The water is treated/filtered, the dirt is contained. Link the article you read, the one I read explained it in the article.


The state's mostly seem upset about the optics after the incessant screeching and overreaction from the American public who can't deal with this stuff anymore.

Some TX official regarding the waste water being shipped to a facility there:
...although there’s no legal requirement for her office to be notified, “it doesn’t quite seem right.”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/25/us/oh...day/index.html
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Nobody said anything about cash handouts 'tard.
LMAO, you fukkin' idiot.

I've been wondering why you've just been continuously bitching about my posts while never stating your own thoughts.

It's because you have no ****ing idea whats going on.

Not only are you ignorant of basic facts regarding the names of various responding agencies and their roles, you completely missed that this all started because Ohio's governor didn't want to formally declare an emergency unless it led to financial assistance (this means "money" if you didn't know) from FEMA.

Financial compensation to the residents of East Palestine was what the Fox News article in this OP was about:

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=182918903

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...xic-derailment

And why gwg77 said:
Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Unreal. I read in a separate article that the Norfolk Southern financial compensation was $1,000 which may have included waiving future liability.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
LMAO, you fukkin' idiot.

I've been wondering why you've just been continuously bitching about my posts while never stating your own thoughts.

It's because you have no ****ing idea whats going on.

Not only are you ignorant of basic facts regarding the names of various responding agencies and their roles, you completely missed that this all started becasueOhio's governor didn't want to formally declare an emergency unless it led to financial assistance (this means "money" if you didn't know) from FEMA.
Ok... and that's bad because?

Maybe FEMA could have agreed to come have a look. And maybe after FEMA would have came and had said look, then they decided no financial assistance.. Worth a look though, right?

But maybe they came and saidyesto financial assistance??

Only theydidn'tcome have a look, nor did you even want them to.
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Why is this "unreal"?

Seems FEMA is pretty consistent with what their funds are made available for.

Ohio needs to look elsewhere for free chit, I'm sure they'll be okay.
But I'm glad you're an environmentalist though.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Ok... and that's bad because?

Maybe FEMA could have agreed to come have a look. And maybe after FEMA came and had said look they decided no financial assistance.. Worth a look though, right?

Only theydidn'tcome have a look, nor did you even want them to.

But I'm glad you're an environmentalist though.
Jesus dude... right back at it huh?

Stop bitching about what you think I wanted, no one cares.

I do suggest, for your own sanity, to go read something besides my posts though. You'll find that FEMA did "have a look".
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Jesus dude... right back at it huh?

Stop bitching about what you think I wanted, no one cares.
You said what you wanted simpleton.
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Why is this "unreal"?

Seems FEMA is pretty consistent with what their funds are made available for.

Ohio needs to look elsewhere for free chit, I'm sure they'll be okay.
...
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I do suggest, for your own sanity, to go read something besides my poststhough. You'll find that FEMA did "have a look".
'Tard.. Your opposition to FEMA going to Ohio is the whole point. FML dude FEMA even thinking about Ohio had you in a blind screaming rage.

And why.. Because you didn't want Ohio to get "free shiit."
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
You said what you wanted simpleton.
I did. I'm against imprudent government handouts.

Did you ever say what you wanted?

Don't bother now though, cause I nor anyone else gives a chit.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I did. I'm against imprudent government handouts.
Now do Ukraine.
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Did you ever say what you wanted?

Don't bother now though, cause I can't take much more abuse.
Fixed that right up for you there 'tard.
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