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Thread: How is it possible to lose body fat when consuming carbs?

post 1677932153 02-25-2023, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
Severely allergic to bull****.
Trayvonelius plz…
post 1677933403 02-25-2023, 07:16 PM
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Did low-carb/keto/psmf when cutting for years, not worth it imo. Just too much other side effect issues go on. Ultimately, what is going to get you a bodyfat is CICO and energy expenditure. Doing low carb/keto/psmf will just end up drying you out, appearing leaner and weigh less technically but still at the same bodyfat percentage.
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post 1677935873 02-25-2023, 07:56 PM
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Calories in calories out. *******s
post 1677937383 02-25-2023, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
if you are already fat/insulin resistant and reduce your calories to 1k over a period of time, and most of those calories come from carbs/processed added sugary foods. your body will just burn muscle and crash it's metabolism to compensate for the deficit. it cannot access fat to make up the energy difference because insulin is high which doesn't allow fat to be accessed for energy.

you'll end up skinny fat.

yes you lose weight but you will not get lean.

maybe once all LBM is gone, you will start to lose some fat at a slower pace until you are just bone.

fasting though on 0 calories is completely different and doesn't damage your metabolism. it actually jacks up GH to protect your LBM, and you lost mostly fat. it's also the fastest way to fix your insulin levels ~3 weeks to get them back to normal levels depending on the damage.
My Mom isn't eating much at all in a nursing home but she's burning a lot of muscle. She's losing weight but skin fold calipers show a lot of muscle loss. It's not like she looks like a bikini competitor starving like that, either. It's really sad to watch.
post 1677970023 02-26-2023, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss⏩
My Mom isn't eating much at all in a nursing home but she's burning a lot of muscle. She's losing weight but skin fold calipers show a lot of muscle loss. It's not like she looks like a bikini competitor starving like that, either. It's really sad to watch.
How much exercise?

Obviously she's probably older than my mom, but I keep having to tell my mother "YOU HAVE TO START EXERCISING".

Like really exercising, as in challenging yourself.

My mom thinks like say walking for 30 minutes is enough.

That's hardly even "exercise".

Everyone as they get older need some cardio, some resistance and some stretching.

Not one or the other.

Not saying she needs to go run a marathon but she needs to exert herself more so than she does.

I don't know your mother's actual situation like how possible being that active is for here but it's very necessary to fight things you're mentioning (muscle wasting, bone loss etc).

I'm sure you know all that though but (at least in my case) "you can lead a horse to water...
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
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At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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post 1677972413 02-26-2023, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
I’ve posted plenty of pics of myself and yet you never do

Odd

I’d honestly knock your teeth in if we ever crossed paths srs
No you honestly wouldn't as much as you imagine yourself as the hero of your delusions.

It would be the second worst day of your life after being born.

I wrestled and boxed for significant portions of my life retard.

I've even posted some wrestling trophies and medals, my old boxing club etc.

I grew up in and around gang conflict in my neighborhood.

Like for you growing up the most "danger" you probably ever faced was your mommy putting you in timeout or taking your Super Nintendo 🤭🤭🤭

I wouldn't even break a sweat making your life more miserable than it's been up til this point 😂😂😂

Like real fighting enthusiasts around here, soldiers etc they're more on the level you think you are Timmy.

You're just some beta twerp talking tough online andavi frauding as a black guy 😂😂😂
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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post 1677972653 02-26-2023, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
No you honestly wouldn't as much as you imagine yourself as the hero of your delusions.

It would be the second worst day of your life after being born.

I wrestled and boxed for significant portions of my life retard.

I've even posted some wrestling trophies and medals, my old boxing club etc.

I grew up in and around gang conflict in my neighborhood.

Like for you growing up the most "danger" you probably ever faced was your mommy putting you in timeout or taking your Super Nintendo 🤭🤭🤭

I wouldn't even break a sweat making your life more miserable than it's been up til this point 😂😂😂

Like real fighting enthusiasts around here, soldiers etc they're more on the level you think you are Timmy.

You're just some beta twerp talking tough online andavi frauding as a black guy 😂😂😂
Wrestling your dad in the shower doesn’t count
post 1677973313 02-26-2023, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
I wrestled and boxed for significant portions of my life retard.
Fighting your dad in the shower for the soap is not wrestling
post 1677975363 02-26-2023, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
Do low intensity consistent cardio like a 30-45 minute jog.

Our body uses carbs for energy when it needs energy quickly.

When we do longer, less intense work, our bodies will start burning the fat for energy to save the carbs in case an emergency situation arises and you need the quick energy again.

This can be advantageous for survival purposes.

At least that is what I have read a long time ago. I applied it in my life and it seemed very effective. I am aware other people have had similar results.
Yep, it's called zone 2 heart-rate training. Thinking about it it might be why walking is always such a good method of losing weight for people. In terms of calories burnt it really doesn't use much, but it's low intensity enough that you don't tap into your glycogen so, ultiamtely, it's burning a lot of fat for fuel instead.
post 1677975983 02-26-2023, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted By smokinal⏩
I've never done any type of diuretic.
I drink 1.5 cups of red wine the night before a show and manage my salt and water starting about 3 days out, and again the morning of a show.
Believe it or not bro, some guys actually read, learn and work hard to get where they want to be, and not just take short cuts.
Just because you can't stick to a plan doesn't mean I can't.
This is pretty standard for most natural competitors. I never used a diuretic and I'm not a wine drinker so that was out. I did a tiny bit of carb/sodium manipulation and kept my water intake as is. When it comes to getting dry/shredded (for both natty and non natty,) it's all about going the distance with your dieting and this is where most people fall short. I always did longer preps and made sure I was show ready around 1.5 to 2 weeks out. You basically hold the look/coast into your show and nothing fancy is needed during your peak week.
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post 1677976733 02-26-2023, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
This is pretty standard for most natural competitors. I never used a diuretic and I'm not a wine drinker so that was out. I did a tiny bit of carb/sodium manipulation and kept my water intake as is. When it comes to getting dry/shredded (for both natty and non natty,) it's all about going the distance with your dieting and this is where most people fall short. I always did longer preps and made sure I was show ready around 1.5 to 2 weeks out. You basically hold the look/coast into your show and nothing fancy is needed during your peak week.
You're spot on kimm
I date my calendar, and in my head, to step on stage 1 week before the actual show date. I plan my cut at 1 lb per week and date this 1 week prior as well. You hear a lot of people backstage, and even some coaches, saying "you're just holding water"...nope, sorry, you're just higher BF% than you think and you're not prepped.
If you have to rely too much on peak week tricks and tactics, you're behind schedule.
Your clients are lucky to have access to your knowledge.
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post 1677977533 02-26-2023, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Jadedfadedisbae⏩
When the glucose is used as energy? Don’t you need to have depleted your glucose stores for the body to start using fat for energy?
How is it even possible to be this clueless if you are in any way interested in lifting and nutrition?
post 1677977623 02-26-2023, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By smokinal⏩
You're spot on kimm
I date my calendar, and in my head, to step on stage 1 week before the actual show date. I plan my cut at 1 lb per week and date this 1 week prior as well. You hear a lot of people backstage, and even some coaches, saying "you're just holding water"...nope, sorry, you're just higher BF% than you think and you're not prepped.
If you have to rely too much on peak week tricks and tactics, you're behind schedule.
Your clients are lucky to have access to your knowledge.
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post 1677977753 02-26-2023, 03:14 PM
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I recall reading that low carb for weight loss works for around 60% of people. For the other 40% something else is going on i'm guessing.
post 1677977833 02-26-2023, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By smokinal⏩
You're spot on kimm
I date my calendar, and in my head, to step on stage 1 week before the actual show date. I plan my cut at 1 lb per week and date this 1 week prior as well. You hear a lot of people backstage, and even some coaches, saying "you're just holding water"...nope, sorry, you're just higher BF% than you think and you're not prepped.
If you have to rely too much on peak week tricks and tactics, you're behind schedule.
Your clients are lucky to have access to your knowledge.
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Oh yes the old holding water...a nice way of saying you're still too fat LOL...

Hope you're doing well!
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post 1677977973 02-26-2023, 03:17 PM
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Are there people in here who seriously claim that they can't lose weight if they consume >x amount of carbohydrates despite being in a caloric deficit lol?
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Originally Posted By Khumatmibro⏩
Are there people in here who seriously claim that they can't lose weight if they consume >x amount of carbohydrates despite being in a caloric deficit lol?
It's feminine thinking.

If you don't do something exactly, it's wrong!!

Carbs are poison!!!
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post 1677986423 02-26-2023, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
have you ever placed higher than people on juice?
I compete in an all natural organization, so I couldn't tell for sure if someone was on. I'm sure somewhere along the lines, guys make it through the polygraphs and such.
I have, however, placed higher than guys much younger, half my age etc.. I've won 40+ categories while I was 50+ a couple times, which I was pretty stoked about. And I've won opens (any age) when I was in my late 40's; very pleased about that as well.
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
This is exactly the advice Ratfish needs to hear. He already failed to get abs twice, probably will fail this third time too.
lost 45lbs eating carbs every day

don't blame me because your IQ is too low to count lol

math is literally the one thing your "people" are good at
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Interesting thread. I’ve always seen best results with the broscience eating every 2.5-3 hours, but that also came with always being hungry af (due to calorie deficit lol). I think different peoples bodies respond to different protocols but in the end it always ends up being about calories not carbohydrates IMO
post 1677991123 02-26-2023, 06:58 PM
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literally a ton of studies and meta-analyses showing that keto diets aren't any more effective at losing fat than regular diets equated for calories.
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