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Thread: Natural immunity found to be as effective as COVID vaccine

post 1678064393 02-28-2023, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Will yeah, it's a virus and has caused health issues for many, many people. However, it's neither mine nor sacred.
It is yours, and it is sacred.

You - along with a handful of others here argue and fight like caged animals to defend it.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You have, a few weeks ago, admitted that it was a bad idea to try and vaccinate our way out of a pandemic.

That's a goalpost move if I ever saw one.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It was poor strategy to think we'd vaccinate our way out of a pandemic.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
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Yep. Many, myself included, said that right from the start.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Yep. Many, myself included, said that right from the start.
No you didn't.

You Ronaholic fux could not WAIT to get your Fauci Fluid injections, followed by the 47 boosters. Lost. Your. Fuking. Minds even, at all the un-vaxxedUntermenschwho refused, it and wanted them banished from society.

Should the unvaccinated be denied health care?
https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2021/0...d-health-care/

COVID-19: Can doctors refuse unvaccinated patients? Reports suggest this is already happening
https://globalnews.ca/news/8286334/c...eded-patients/

Taking vaccination status into account when deciding whether to treat a patient can be acceptable — sometimes.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...es-ncna1277475

Doctors to Parents: Get Your Child Vaccinated, Or Get Out
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/a...ed-or-get-out/

Should We Reject Unvaccinated Patients?
https://www.aafp.org/news/blogs/fres..._patients.html

Doctors are increasingly refusing to treat the unvaccinated.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/doctor-...ty-11644336402

And I can provide you with a hundred more examples just like that too. All day long.Ad Infinitum...

So no, not a single one of you anywhere said that and you know it.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Reference for that claim, please.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00728-2

https://c2cjournal.ca/2021/11/no-we-...-the-pandemic/

https://www.statnews.com/2021/02/10/...-end-pandemic/

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/wh...-with-covid-19

https://www.voanews.com/a/who-chief-...-/6255192.html
post 1678069293 02-28-2023, 08:27 AM
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Why'd you skip the nature article?
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I understand the historical relationship between vaccination and herd immunity.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Acquired immunity (development of antibodies and t cells) had been demonstrated in response to both infection and vaccination.
Infection..yes

Vaccination ..Too bad the jabbed are still being hospitalized & dying from Covid. Are they aware of this phenomenon you speak of?
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Originally Posted By Paul
Not in any city I’m seeing, nor any hospital friends work at..but I’m sure all those studies will say differently huh?
Wat?

Nobody developed antibodies or t cells in response to either vaccination or infection in any city you've seen?
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Originally Posted By Paul
Infection..yes

Vaccination ..Too bad the jabbed are still being hospitalized & dying from Covid. Are they aware of this phenomenon you speak of?
There's plenty of evidence that vaccination leads to both antibody and t cell development.

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
There's plenty of evidence that vaccination leads to both antibody and t cell development.

Cool, unfortunately that’s not translating very well to the real world & what everyone sees happening around them…& to them.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Cool, unfortunately that’s not translating very well to the real world & what everyone sees happening around them…& to them.
Note the title of the thread.
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The traditional vaccination methods is to just give you the -real- virus. Either it's a dead whole virus, or it's irradiated/inactivated. Regardless, it's the real virus, it introduces your immune system to the real virus, without the infection. Excellent simulation, and much safer, this side of getting a natural infection. I am 10000000000% in favor of traditional vaccines.

How can I be an "antivaxxer" when I am in favor of traditional vaccines, and I have all normal vaccinations as such?


Funny that propaganda from the media. Being against -1- new experimental technology with no long term human studies, oh now you're antivaxx.


So, it would make sense for me to prefer natural immunity (since I'm a healthy young man)


Imagine asking healthy people to take experimental vaccines in order to protect someone else who has medical issues. In that case, those at risk need to stay indoors, go on lockdown mode, take whatever precautions they want, including your experimental vaccines.


But it's THEIR responsibility to stay locked down and away from everyone else.



Really crazy that the world told -everyone- to lock down for their sake. Should have been the opposite. Those at risk, are lockdown. I would have thought they would say, if you're healthy, go on about your day
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Note the title of the thread.
Note what is actually happening in the real world.

But as I stated, when we all see Chris Christie, the overweight, diabetic Governor of NJ recover from Covid in less than a weekend, with no vaccination, most of us caught on that the jab was unnecessary.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
The traditional vaccination methods is to just give you the -real- virus. Either it's a dead whole virus, or it's irradiated/inactivated. Regardless, it's the real virus, it introduces your immune system to the real virus, without the infection. Excellent simulation, and much safer, this side of getting a natural infection. I am 10000000000% in favor of traditional vaccines.

How can I be an "antivaxxer" when I am in favor of traditional vaccines, and I have all normal vaccinations as such?


Funny that propaganda from the media. Being against -1- new experimental technology with no long term human studies, oh now you're antivaxx.


So, it would make sense for me to prefer natural immunity (since I'm a healthy young man)


Imagine asking healthy people to take experimental vaccines in order to protect someone else who has medical issues. In that case, those at risk need to stay indoors, go on lockdown mode, take whatever precautions they want, including your experimental vaccines.


But it's THEIR responsibility to stay locked down and away from everyone else.



Really crazy that the world told -everyone- to lock down for their sake. Should have been the opposite. Those at risk, are lockdown. I would have thought they would say, if you're healthy, go on about your day
Traditional covid vaccines did not prove to be superior to mRNA-based covid vaccines.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Note what is actually happening in the real world.
The real world is what we say it is!!! Stop reading so much, for ignorance is strength! Freedom is slavery! Trust your government.



this message brought to you by the Ministry of Truth
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
The traditional vaccination methods is to just give you the -real- virus. Either it's a dead whole virus, or it's irradiated/inactivated. Regardless, it's the real virus, it introduces your immune system to the real virus, without the infection. Excellent simulation, and much safer, this side of getting a natural infection. I am 10000000000% in favor of traditional vaccines.

How can I be an "antivaxxer" when I am in favor of traditional vaccines, and I have all normal vaccinations as such?


Funny that propaganda from the media. Being against -1- new experimental technology with no long term human studies, oh now you're antivaxx.


So, it would make sense for me to prefer natural immunity (since I'm a healthy young man)


Imagine asking healthy people to take experimental vaccines in order to protect someone else who has medical issues. In that case, those at risk need to stay indoors, go on lockdown mode, take whatever precautions they want, including your experimental vaccines.


But it's THEIR responsibility to stay locked down and away from everyone else.



Really crazy that the world told -everyone- to lock down for their sake. Should have been the opposite. Those at risk, are lockdown. I would have thought they would say, if you're healthy, go on about your day
We all healthy people to take vaccines for a lot of different viruses and bacteria.
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Ask* healthy people
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
We all healthy people to take vaccines for a lot of different viruses and bacteria.
But I thought....
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It was poor strategy to think we'd vaccinate our way out of a pandemic.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Yep. Many, myself included, said that right from the start.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Source?
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...stract/2795654
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
But I thought....
What's the confusion?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Interesting.

I don't see a source for the claim of "Traditional covid vaccines did not prove to be superior to mRNA-based covid vaccines".
I guess you'd have to read the study
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More effective, because natural immunity can't cause you to mysteriously die suddenly
Would kick em in the nuts
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
What's the confusion?
The confusion is WTF you're arguing about.

Literally HUNDREDS of posts in discussion after discussion you throw your wild Rona haymakers in the desperate hope that something will land. "Vaccine! Vaccine! Vaccine! Science! Science! Science!!"

But then you say...
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It was poor strategy to think we'd vaccinate our way out of a pandemic.
Do you even have a point?

Or is it like I told you already.. That ARGUING about covid is more important than saving people from the horrific black plague zombie apocalypse virus of DOOM thatyou thinkyou're doing.

ie Covid theater. Virtue signaling.
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Originally Posted By Antoine99⏩
More effective, because natural immunity can't cause you to mysteriously die suddenly
I think maybe some people died from infection.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Traditional covid vaccines did not prove to be superior to mRNA-based covid vaccines.
they performed just as good, if not better, than mrna. Such as Novavax.

and without any still unknown mrna side effects.


In fact, Novavax brought the body's immune response back down to normal levels.

while the mrna stuff required constant boosters to keep your body at a HEIGHTENED immunoresponse for years, to be effective.



Tell me, is your body designed to be in a state of heightened immunoresponse for very long periods of time? No. You're supposed to fight off infection, and go back down to normal levels.



time is proving us right, i'll just sit back and keep watching as this whole thing reveals itself within the next couple of years.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
The confusion is WTF you're arguing about.

Literally HUNDREDS of posts in discussion after discussion you throw your wild Rona haymakers in the desperate hope that something will land. "Vaccine! Vaccine! Vaccine! Science! Science! Science!!"

But then you say...



Do you even have a point?

Or is it like I told you already.. ARGUING about covid is more important than saving people from the horrific black plague zombie apocalypse virus of DOOM thatyou thinkyou're doing.

ie Covid theater. Virtue signaling.
I have multiple points.

There's lots of interesting research to be done and discussed with this virus.

I don't think anyone is forced to participate in any thread on the misc.
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neggin all covid vax ph ags for life. You literally gave up on your country and turned your back on those willing to fight.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
they performed just as good, if not better, than mrna. Such as Novavax.

and without any still unknown mrna side effects.


In fact, Novavax brought the body's immune response back down to normal levels.

while the mrna stuff required constant boosters to keep your body at a HEIGHTENED immunoresponse for years, to be effective.



Tell me, is your body designed to be in a state of heightened immunoresponse for very long periods of time? No. You're supposed to fight off infection, and go back down to normal levels.



time is proving us right, i'll just sit back and keep watching as this whole thing reveals itself within the next couple of years.
Can you share a study demonstrating those conclusions?

The one I just linked showed lower effectiveness and faster waning with traditional versus mRNA.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
It must be very hard to find where one stands, if one was blindly following the MSM narrative, when said narrative starts falling apart.

I vaguely recall him posting about protecting your community by getting vaccinated at the beginning.
Hmmm.

That sounds made up. I was the last person I know to receive a vaccine.


Any chance you have proof?
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