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post 1678077223 02-28-2023, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
Also soundbars will get the job done but if you like to listen to music then even a 3.0 system is far better than a sound bar. The margins on soundbars are very high, those $800 soundbars made out of plastic are a rip off.
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Originally Posted By obmas
I don't know if you have ever listened to a proper Sonos wireless system in a good room (not at costco), but they are pretty damn good for a soundbar.
my issue with that is for the price you have to pay to get to the level of "good" sound bars is just far too expensive. what you spent on a sound bar could easily get 2 floor standing bookshelf speakers and a solid receiver. which i also think will sound better. the only thing it will lack is directional audio without surround speakers in the back.

1500 is too much for a sound bar. 1500 is great for an entry level 2.0, that can be build into a full surround whenever he gets out of the apartment.

denon receiver for 500
https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S76..._t1_B09QK54CRK

two floor standing speakers, on sale actually
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_714RP6...ny.html?tp=185

then when hes ready to move into a home one day half of his surround sound system is already built and he just has to grab a center and surround channels. and the receiver is atmos capable if he wants to throw a few in his ceiling or simply use a 7.1.


personally i'll never get another sound bar, i tried an 800 dollar vizio sound bar and it was so abysmal it took me only like 3 weeks to replace it with these which sound absolutely stunning for music. i know the sonos does indeed blow the one i tried out of the water, but at a price point that's too much IMO.
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_714600...II-Walnut.html


but to be fair not everyone is as into audio as i am so if you are fine with a soundbar then who am i to judge. audio can be a deep rabbit hole.
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For the people commenting on the high price, I'm Canadian, we are cucked by a communist leader and a TERRIBLE exchange rate, as well as inflation, so that leads to everything costing 100x more than it does in the U.S.

And for all the people saying that 55" is tiny and I need to get some massive 100" TV or I'll be miserable, I am not someone who sits 50 feet back from my TV, I hate that chit. I've been a PCcel my entire life, I'm used to gaming at a desk with my monitor 2 feet in front of me, I don't like gaming on a MASSIVE TV, I like being fairly up close.
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Originally Posted By Coal
OP you don't want the nerds and virgins ruining your thread because they overdo it. You're a newb and you need basic advice. Also, you need someone who has experience with how these sets look so lemme give it to you straight.

I got two new TVs. A Samsung QLED(basically LED) and LG OLED. Both TVs are high end and despite what nerds say are both extremely great TVs. Far better than what your average person will use, and there's no clear winner because each has their advantages and drawbacks.

So here's the thing. Based on your uses for the TV: a mix of gaming, sports, regular TV and movies... As well as the lighting situation in your room I do not suggest an OLED TV. It's probably an entertainment area for your gf and family/friends to enjoy so you don't want to baby your set.

I would get the most affordable Hisense or TCL that support these: 65" (trust me), 4K LED (basically non-OLED), 120hz and HDMI 2.1 port.

As for sound, I'd take freeburner's advice with the speaker setup.


Edit OP look at the price of this Sony that has all the specs I mentioned. 2022 model for $898 ho lee.

https://a.co/d/78iza3M
Based upon your suggestion, wouldn't this TV fit nicely then?

Once again I don't know chit but from my google sessions, isn't mini-LED a step up from regular LED?

The 65" Sony you posted is the same price as this TCL, but I definitely tend to trust Sony over a brand like TCL or HiSense.

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I just upgraded to a 65" Samsung S95B (dark room), you would need an (A) for $1,800 and its one of the best i have owned besides an old plasma.

No way in hell i would spend 1500 on a bar.

Denon has some great receivers, the new S series just came out. I have a x4300h but you dont need something that size.

Tower speakers can be picked up at a reasonable price determined by what you think sounds good.

I went all out when i got a house on a Klispch setup

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Originally Posted By kr1kit
For the people commenting on the high price, I'm Canadian, we are cucked by a communist leader and a TERRIBLE exchange rate, as well as inflation, so that leads to everything costing 100x more than it does in the U.S.

And for all the people saying that 55" is tiny and I need to get some massive 100" TV or I'll be miserable, I am not someone who sits 50 feet back from my TV, I hate that chit. I've been a PCcel my entire life, I'm used to gaming at a desk with my monitor 2 feet in front of me, I don't like gaming on a MASSIVE TV, I like being fairly up close.
america bruhs probably think a single family home here costs $70,000 or something lmao

A Sonos Beam Gen2 is like $600 (under $500 on sale).
https://forums.redflagdeals.com/cost...0-off-2581007/

You could try it out in your space and see if its enough for your apartment. You can return it if it's not adequate for you. The setup is clean and doesn't take up much footprint, otherwise your living space will be looking cluttered AF like this:

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Originally Posted By kr1kit
Based upon your suggestion, wouldn't this TV fit nicely then?

Once again I don't know chit but from my google sessions, isn't mini-LED a step up from regular LED?

The 65" Sony you posted is the same price as this TCL, but I definitely tend to trust Sony over a brand like TCL or HiSense.

How is it the same price? My link says 900, yours says 1300. I'm not too sure about mini LED, I think it's micro LED that is supposed to compete with OLED one day. Also I personally trust Sony more when it comes to picture quality as well as working best with the PS5
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Originally Posted By Coal
How is it the same price? My link says 900, yours says 1300. I'm not too sure about mini LED, I think it's micro LED that is supposed to compete with OLED one day. Also I personally trust Sony more when it comes to picture quality as well as working best with the PS5
I'm Canadian, the 65" X85k costs $1,198CAD on Amazon.
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Originally Posted By kr1kit
I'm Canadian, the 65" X85k costs $1,198CAD on Amazon.
I'd get a high end Hisense over a cheap Sony. X90K maybe over a U8H, but I wouldn't entertain an X85K when the Hisense U8H exists.
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Originally Posted By kr1kit
I'm Canadian, the 65" X85k costs $1,198CAD on Amazon.
This OP. Sony X90k. Even if you think 55 is good enough to save a couple hundred I think this is a good deal.

https://a.co/d/32NrsTc
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I have a 55" sony bravia with a samsung soundbar with bluetooth remote satellite speakers and a separate subwoofer in my living room that sounds great and doesn't take up much space. It's probably over kill for an apartment and will definitely make the neighbors hate you if you want it to.

Granted for my man cave I bought an 86" LG thinQ TV (at Costco) and a 7.2 surround system. I have a 12" sub behind the TV and a 10" sub behind the couch. Right now I just have small separate speakers for the rest of the setup, I really want to invest in some towers for the fronts but I am working on other projects right now and with the subs they're good enough.

It's nice to have stuff that will integrate with Alexa or whatever home assistant you use, and also make sure you use hdmi-arc. It's a great signal and ties everything together with your TV controls, no need for separate remotes except for initial setup.
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Originally Posted By Coal
This OP. Sony X90k. Even if you think 55 is good enough to save a couple hundred I think this is a good deal.

https://a.co/d/32NrsTc
The X90K definitely seems to have better reviews than the X85K.

Looks thicc, solid, tight, joocy.

However rtings.com says this about it in comparison to the Hisense U8H. And the U8H is actually cheaper.



"The Hisense U8H is much better than the Sony X90K. The Hisense has much better reflection handling, and it gets significantly brighter, so it's a better choice for a bright viewing environment as it can better overcome glare. The Hisense delivers a more impactful HDR experience, as it gets significantly brighter in HDR and can display a wider color gamut."


Fuark this is such a hard decision.

I have like 30 TVs saved on a google doc right now and I'm pretty close to just throwing a dart at my monitor and seeing where it lands.


https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tc...r646-2021-qled

Now here's another option, really good reviews and cheap as chit.
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Originally Posted By kr1kit
The X90K definitely seems to have better reviews than the X85K.

Looks thicc, solid, tight, joocy.

However rtings.com says this about it in comparison to the Hisense U8H. And the U8H is actually cheaper.



"The Hisense U8H is much better than the Sony X90K. The Hisense has much better reflection handling, and it gets significantly brighter, so it's a better choice for a bright viewing environment as it can better overcome glare. The Hisense delivers a more impactful HDR experience, as it gets significantly brighter in HDR and can display a wider color gamut."


Fuark this is such a hard decision.

I have like 30 TVs saved on a google doc right now and I'm pretty close to just throwing a dart at my monitor and seeing where it lands.


https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tc...r646-2021-qled

Now here's another option, really good reviews and cheap as chit.
Don't overcomplicate it, from what I have seen you say here it's simple, X90K or U8H. I don't remember if the X90K cuts res with FALD on in 2.1 gaming mode or not, the U8H does. If the X90K doesn't, personally I'd go X90K. Beyond that question it's a simple tradeoff compassion, the X90K will have better motion handling and reliability but the U8H will beat out the X90K in almost all picture quality metric specs.
post 1678125433 03-01-2023, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted By kr1kit
The X90K definitely seems to have better reviews than the X85K.

Looks thicc, solid, tight, joocy.

However rtings.com says this about it in comparison to the Hisense U8H. And the U8H is actually cheaper.



"The Hisense U8H is much better than the Sony X90K. The Hisense has much better reflection handling, and it gets significantly brighter, so it's a better choice for a bright viewing environment as it can better overcome glare. The Hisense delivers a more impactful HDR experience, as it gets significantly brighter in HDR and can display a wider color gamut."


Fuark this is such a hard decision.

I have like 30 TVs saved on a google doc right now and I'm pretty close to just throwing a dart at my monitor and seeing where it lands.


https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tc...r646-2021-qled

Now here's another option, really good reviews and cheap as chit.
Honestly I would go with the Sony and call it a day. It's gonna be better for gaming and have that Sony reliability and build quality. I don't have either side by side to say which looks better but customer reviews on Amazon and on various forums seem to give more positive feedback on the Sony than I'm seeing on the Hisense.
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You'd be playing roulette on Longevity with the Hisense. I've read too many stories about them failing within a few years. Just make sure you got good extended warranty, I guess.

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Originally Posted By obmas
You'd be playing roulette on Longevity with the Hisense. I've read too many stories about them failing within a few years. Just make sure you got good extended warranty, I guess.
Or, OP could uncuck himself and buy the Sony.

Bruh, it's a high end Sony TV. It's what they do. Come on ****ot

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Not even sure why Sony vs hisense would be debatable. Sony no question
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Not even sure why Sony vs hisense would be debatable. Sony no question
Nobody is debating, mgftp is literally sponsored by Hisense. Lol
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Hisense is fine if you play Nintendo switch ducked which I know many of us alpha playas in this sub forum do.

Ps5 you need a really really obscenely expensive high end brand to use it. More hassle than it’s worth compared to playing Nintendo at its best settings! 👍
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Not even sure why Sony vs hisense would be debatable. Sony no question
This
Sony gets a 5 year warranty where I live. Nonsense gets 2 years, I wonder why.
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Originally Posted By Coal
Nobody is debating, mgftp is literally sponsored by Hisense. Lol
Chill bro, he just forgot about those threads he made.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Not even sure why Sony vs hisense would be debatable. Sony no question
Originally Posted By Coal
Nobody is debating, mgftp is literally sponsored by Hisense. Lol
I thought Sony would blow Hisense out of the water until I started reading a bunch of reviews that placed the U8H above the X90K in 90% of categories.
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Originally Posted By kr1kit
I thought Sony would blow Hisense out of the water until I started reading a bunch of reviews that placed the U8H above the X90K in 90% of categories.
Freeburner and CoalJay are the last people to take advice from. Jay has made more intelligent posts here in recent times.
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Originally Posted By mgftp
Freeburner and CoalJay are the last people to take advice from. Jay has made more intelligent posts here in recent times.
I don't spend my time watching YouTube reviews on budget televisions because I'll never buy a budget television. We are not the same.

You are Def the king of advice for this subject.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
I don't spend my time watching YouTube reviews on budget televisions because I'll never buy a budget television. We are not the same.

You are Def the king of advice for this subject.
I'm a brand new nursing grad renting a brand new, never lived in before condo in a city where the average rent costs more than you take home a month, so yes at the moment I can't afford to go spend $5000 on a top of the line 85" big dick TV, but I will be happy with the choice I make

To me it's an important decision, I don't want to throw my money away and make the wrong choice.
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Originally Posted By kr1kit
I'm a brand new nursing grad renting a brand new, never lived in before condo in a city where the average rent costs more than you take home a month, so yes at the moment I can't afford to go spend $5000 on a top of the line 85" big dick TV, but I will be happy with the choice I make

To me it's an important decision, I don't want to throw my money away and make the wrong choice.
Idk why you feel the need to attempt to insult me when I've done nothing but offer advice. I understand not everyone is in a position where they don't have to worry about the price of things. I was a young man too once who lived in an apartment and had a Vizio TV with an onkyo home theater in a box. And for some people having the best quality just isn't that important. If you recall my genuine advice was to get a cheaper TV and use the savings towards better audio than a sound bar.

Like I said take mgftps advice. He pays more attention to mid range televisions than I ever will because I'm just beyond that point in my life.

But sure bro if you want to brag about moving into your first rented apartment that's great. Congrats. I remember how exciting it was for me too. When you get a house and are able to or want to afford a higher tier of audio/video consumerism, I'll chime back in with my advice. Til then, ask mgftp about hisense.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Idk why you feel the need to attempt to insult me when I've done nothing but offer advice. I understand not everyone is in a position where they don't have to worry about the price of things. I was a young man too once who lived in an apartment and had a Vizio TV with an onkyo home theater in a box. And for some people having the best quality just isn't that important. If you recall my genuine advice was to get a cheaper TV and use the savings towards better audio than a sound bar.

Like I said take mgftps advice.He pays more attention to mid range televisions than I ever will because I'm just beyond that point in my life.

But sure bro if you want to brag about moving into your first rented apartment that's great. Congrats. I remember how exciting it was for me too. When you get a house and are able to or want to afford a higher tier of audio/video consumerism, I'll chime back in with my advice. Til then, ask mgftp about hisense.
Aren't you a manager at Costco? JLoL
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If you are playing on PS5, make sure to check this compatibility list for VRR
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comment..._for_ps5_2022/

some TVs will turn off local dimming when VRR is on. And some will just be a juttering mess like Vizio

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Aren't you a manager at Costco? JLoL
I haven't worked there in years. JLoL
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Originally Posted By freeburn
I haven't worked there in years. JLoL
Do you have your own weed shop now?
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