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Thread: 500 students at SCOTUS in support of Biden's debt relief.

post 1678131223 03-01-2023, 07:31 AM
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so they can show up to support a debt relief protest but cannot show up to work to pay back their own debt

interesting
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Originally Posted By goody1⏩
The bolded must be part of that higher education.
Ooof lmao. Good thing he wasn't lying about getting a PhD in English
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Most of the 500 deadbeats were wearing NAACP hats, wonder where they bussed them in from?
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Blaming the students for this crisis is stupid and short-sighted.
They go through school, learn 158 pha$$ots genders wear clothes of the opposite sex and call themselves Ze zer zit and fuc7 face, say they are

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And yet they don't understand how a loan works?
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Melissa Byrne, executive director of We The 45 Million, a campaign of borrowers working to win student-debt cancellation, previously told Insider that she "wanted to make sure that the justices look into the eyes of borrowers while they're doing the hearing," adding that "our actions will show that the people with debt are just regular people from around the country."
Wish they allowed cameras in the court so we can see the look of disgust on the justices faces while they look through the borrowers.

The hyperbole from these protesters is so over the top it's laughable. Biden/Harris have reduced the minimums for the income based repayment plan where most will pay like $150 a month while they get their chit together. If you need that $150 for diapers there are other options.
post 1678135093 03-01-2023, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
There's another option...



OR... you could just take out massive loans with sky high interest that you can't pay back and then snivel about teh "crisis"
FCUK you. I want to go to Harvard for basket weaving and gender fisting studies
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How about these guys that had their ppp loans forgiven? What a bunch of losers right?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna44904
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post 1678135433 03-01-2023, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
How about these guys that had their ppp loans forgiven? What a bunch of losers right?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna44904
You post this like it's some sort of gotcha...PPP needs to be paid back too as far as I'm concerned.
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post 1678135523 03-01-2023, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Millenials can either:

1. Go to college to at least have a chance of securing a decent job, or....

2. Forego college and become very uncompetitive in the contemporary job market because a degree is basically a prerequisite today. Bachelors degrees are the new high school diplomas.


But...but tradies! Yeah, that chit can fuk right off.
You act like you can't get a bachelor's degree for less than 100k. Hint: you can.

The average BA degree is 32k. Average...meaning you can get one cheaper - even significantly cheaper.

Hint #2: You're an idiot.
Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
How about these guys that had their ppp loans forgiven? What a bunch of losers right?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna44904
Pretty sure the people opposed to gov't handout for student loans are also against the PPP loan forgiveness.
post 1678135753 03-01-2023, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps⏩
LMAO, this. Personal accountability and responsibility is a thing.
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You are a great case study for textbook example of radical individualistic narcissism. In short, you're a fkn idiot. Your obsession with individualism blinds you to the action of groups. You simply can't comprehend the idea of a group getting together to do something as a whole.

It's like you've never heard the age old proverb: it takes a whole village to raise a child.

No, you dipchit. It isn't just the parents job. In a healthy and realistic society, it's EVERYONE'S job. Hence, culture.
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Add randy weingarten to that list with fauci and zelensky of people who I hope suffer painfully before they die
post 1678136233 03-01-2023, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Add randy weingarten to that list with fauci and zelensky of people who I hope suffer painfully before they die
What she did to kids during the pandemic was criminal. She should be in jail. She’s nothing more than another activist in a position of power.
post 1678137643 03-01-2023, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By sloop⏩
Just got my approval notification email yesterday my federal loans are set to be wiped out, assuming it goes through. I would even be eligible for a refund on what I've already paid, which would more than cover the remaining smaller private student loans.

Thanks Joe!
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post 1678137653 03-01-2023, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
You act like you can't get a bachelor's degree for less than 100k. Hint: you can.

The average BA degree is 32k. Average...meaning you can get one cheaper - even significantly cheaper.

Hint #2: You're an idiot.



Pretty sure the people opposed to gov't handout for student loans are also against the PPP loan forgiveness.
From the article:


MTG, who said on Newsmax that “it’s completely unfair” for student loans to be forgiven, had $183,504 in PPP loans forgiven, according to the White House.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
https://www.businessinsider.com/bide...e-court-2023-2

Democrats want to institute some much needed changes and the GOP resist any notion of change. They've known the reform has been a hot topic for awhile and they claim by blocking the relief it will force us to think about the reform instead.

Then there's thatfhaggotThomas saying minorities and the LGBTQ community that they're next. They don't GAF about future generations.

A reminder too, that Congress must fix the crisis. Not Biden. They control interest rates. They can reform unreasonable loan structures. Biden can offer band aids but the wounds are larger than him. To fix the issue you need Congressmen who actually care about the necessity of higher education for our future rather than old men with an obsessive hatred for Millenials.
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩
You post this like it's some sort of gotcha...PPP needs to be paid back too as far as I'm concerned.
Not a gotcha moment at all, my point is a lot of politicians against student loans being forgiven had hundreds of thousands and some millions forgiven.

I agree it should all be paid back and not forgiven.
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My feelings on this topic:

1. If you take a loan and sign your name you pay back your loans (or have them forgiven/paid off by your employer etc)

2. Congress needs to do something about the ridiculous cost of college tuition and the loan programs. No one should be told to start their adult life saddled with this kind of debt just because they want a job that requires a college/university/graduate degree etc. We don't want a population full of tradies and no doctors/engineers just because the boomers fuked things up over the last 30 years.

3. And for those of you who paid back your loans already, good for you. But you shouldn't be hating on these kids just because they're trying to do something about the problem. It's like when the slaves were freed. Some slaves spent their entire lives enslaved, they didn't cry just because others didn't have to. Fixing the problem was the correct course of action, even if some people "got screwed".
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
Not a gotcha moment at all, my point is a lot of politicians against student loans being forgiven had hundreds of thousands and some millions forgiven.

I agree it should all be paid back and not forgiven.
So you're saying politicians are self-serving scum bags? Who knew!?!?

Yeah, **** this PPP forgiveness crap, though. A LOT of the business owners around here are all for it while simultaneously being "hardcore anti-government" or whatever the hell that even means. They are hypocritical old jackasses.
Best thread: http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=168274783
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If you are good, you get a scholarship.

If you are broke, you don't have to pay.

If you go and work for a wide variety of employers, they will pay your loans off.

More importantly, this isn't within the gift of the president, it has to go through congress. Trump couldn't issue an EO to build the wall and Biden can't issue an EO to pay off student debt. That's not how the system works.

If this EO is allowed to stand, precedent has been set. The next GOP president can issue an EO to build the wall and add 500k ICE employees.

It doesn't matter what the EO is for, either the president can cut checks for whatever he wants, or he can't.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
3. And for those of you who paid back your loans already, good for you. But you shouldn't be hating on these kids just because they're trying to do something about the problem. It's like when the slaves were freed. Some slaves spent their entire lives enslaved, they didn't cry just because others didn't have to. Fixing the problem was the correct course of action, even if some people "got screwed".
I mean...they are "doing something", but forgiveness isn't going to fix the problem. If anything, it would likely exacerbate it even more.

The cost issue should certainly be addressed though.
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
If you are good, you get a scholarship.

If you are broke, you don't have to pay.

If you go and work for a wide variety of employers, they will pay your loans off.

More importantly, this isn't within the gift of the president, it has to go through congress. Trump couldn't issue an EO to build the wall and Biden can't issue an EO to pay off student debt. That's not how the system works.

If this EO is allowed to stand, precedent has been set. The next GOP president can issue an EO to build the wall and add 500k ICE employees.

It doesn't matter what the EO is for, either the president can cut checks for whatever he wants, or he can't.
First point - One of my sons got a scholarship and actually got paid for his undergraduate degree. His graduate degree on the hand was over $100,000 grand. He's going to graduate in May with his Physical Therapy doctorate.

Second point - Pell grants and federal aid are not keeping up with tuition costs. Poor people used to be able to graduate debt free, not so much these days.

I agree with the rest of your post.




Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
I mean...they are "doing something", but forgiveness isn't going to fix the problem. If anything, it would likely exacerbate it even more.

The cost issue should certainly be addressed though.
I don't understand how it would make it worse but I agree with the rest of your post.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
My feelings on this topic:

1. If you take a loan and sign your name you pay back your loans (or have them forgiven/paid off by your employer etc)

2. Congress needs to do something about the ridiculous cost of college tuition and the loan programs. No one should be told to start their adult life saddled with this kind of debt just because they want a job that requires a college/university/graduate degree etc. We don't want a population full of tradies and no doctors/engineers just because the boomers fuked things up over the last 30 years.

3. And for those of you who paid back your loans already, good for you. But you shouldn't be hating on these kids just because they're trying to do something about the problem. It's like when the slaves were freed. Some slaves spent their entire lives enslaved, they didn't cry just because others didn't have to. Fixing the problem was the correct course of action, even if some people "got screwed".
Really??? Comparing slavery to taking out a loan???
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩
So you're saying politicians are self-serving scum bags? Who knew!?!?

Yeah, **** this PPP forgiveness crap, though. A LOT of the business owners around here are all for it while simultaneously being "hardcore anti-government" or whatever the hell that even means. They are hypocritical old jackasses.
Thing is, a lot of these businesses were forcibly shutdown, so you either give them a break, or watch another piece of property get boarded up.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Really??? Comparing slavery to taking out a loan???
Was my analogy too complicated for you to understand GED Dave?
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
If you are good, you get a scholarship.

If you are broke, you don't have to pay.

If you go and work for a wide variety of employers, they will pay your loans off.

More importantly, this isn't within the gift of the president, it has to go through congress. Trump couldn't issue an EO to build the wall and Biden can't issue an EO to pay off student debt. That's not how the system works.

If this EO is allowed to stand, precedent has been set. The next GOP president can issue an EO to build the wall and add 500k ICE employees.

It doesn't matter what the EO is for, either the president can cut checks for whatever he wants, or he can't.
Or you encourage the nuclear family, which increases the wealth of a household, where the parents set aside money each year for their children to go to college?
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By the time repayments are required again in a few months, student debtors will have hadover 3 years of no interest and no payments required already.

If debtors didn't take advantage of that massive leg up with zero interest then that's on them. Had they put just $50 a week toward repayment this whole time the principle of their loans would be $8K lower, taking a big chunk out of interest they were supposed to have. If this whole time they instead spent all of the money they would have otherwise put toward repaying their loans how did they manage to get a degree at all?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Was my analogy too complicated for you to understand GED Dave?
You can't compare slavery to someone who willingly takes out a loan.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
By the time repayments are required again in a few months, student debtors will have hadover 3 years of no interest and no payments required already.

If debtors didn't take advantage of that massive leg up with zero interest then that's on them. Had they put just $50 a week toward repayment this whole time the principle of their loans would be $8K lower, taking a big chunk out of interest they were supposed to have. If this whole time they instead spent all of the money they would have otherwise put toward repaying their loans how did they manage to get a degree at all?
So what have they been doing for 3 years???
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so who is protesting starbucks for $25/hr barista jobs if they are at the SC?
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