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post 1678234793 03-02-2023, 08:21 PM
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What a sea of cope ITT, but unsurprising from:

1. Folks who don't understand anything about sanctions policy;
2. Folks who buy into rhetoric that sanctions don't affect the targeted country/thematic scope;
3. Folks who probably think sanctions are unfair, and hate the OFAC.

All 3 are on gigacope doses. Totally unsurprising given a number of threads and prolific posters here.

Just remember: the jackboot is on their neck, and nothing will take it off, until Putin stops.
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
What a sea of cope ITT, but unsurprising from:

1. Folks who don't understand anything about sanctions policy;
2. Folks who buy into rhetoric that sanctions don't affect the targeted country/thematic scope;
3. Folks who probably think sanctions are unfair, and hate the OFAC.

All 3 are on gigacope doses. Totally unsurprising given a number of threads and prolific posters here.

Just remember: the jackboot is on their neck, and nothing will take it off, until Putin stops.
Irony overload
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
What a sea of cope ITT, but unsurprising from:

1. Folks who don't understand anything about sanctions policy;
2. Folks who buy into rhetoric that sanctions don't affect the targeted country/thematic scope;
3. Folks who probably think sanctions are unfair, and hate the OFAC.

All 3 are on gigacope doses. Totally unsurprising given a number of threads and prolific posters here.

Just remember: the jackboot is on their neck, and nothing will take it off, until Putin stops.
Russia's economy is schedule to grow 0.7 percent this year despite sanctions.

The only thing the sanctions has done is created a new power axis between China/Russia/Iran/NK - probably some other smaller countries that don't really matter.
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post 1678240363 03-02-2023, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Irony overload
You don't understand what "irony" means, do you?
Originally Posted By swoleyo
Russia's economy is schedule to grow 0.7 percent this year despite sanctions.

The only thing the sanctions has done is created a new power axis between China/Russia/Iran/NK - probably some other smaller countries that don't really matter.
A little reality check:

https://www.state.gov/the-impact-of-...an-federation/

And what 'power axis'? You really think the DPRK is part of a 'power axis'? Russia's military is in such a pathetic state it had to import weapons from the DPRK, JFL at the cope here srs.
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ITT Jizzel, CNN correspondent;

'Why not getting trillions from the West is a GOOD thing"
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
You don't understand what "irony" means, do you?



A little reality check:

https://www.state.gov/the-impact-of-...an-federation/

And what 'power axis'? You really think the DPRK is part of a 'power axis'? Russia's military is in such a pathetic state it had to import weapons from the DPRK, JFL at the cope here srs.
Most of our power is in the dollar's global reserve status, and thats over. Sanctions were supposed to literally destroy russia, not cause a temporary drop in gdp while half the world abandoms the dollar entirely. This cope is off the charts
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Most of our power is in the dollar's global reserve status, and thats over. Sanctions were supposed to literally destroy russia, not cause a temporary drop in gdp while half the world abandoms the dollar entirely. This cope is off the charts
See my earlier comment re: ignorance regarding sanctions.

"Sanctions were supposed to literally destroy Russia" - lol at the low IQ hyperbole to desperately try to prove a point.
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
What a sea of cope ITT, but unsurprising from:

1. Folks who don't understand anything about sanctions policy;
2. Folks who buy into rhetoric that sanctions don't affect the targeted country/thematic scope;
3. Folks who probably think sanctions are unfair, and hate the OFAC.

All 3 are on gigacope doses. Totally unsurprising given a number of threads and prolific posters here.

Just remember: the jackboot is on their neck, and nothing will take it off, until Putin stops.
Let me guess, we're not doing enough and maybe another 100 billion to Ukraine will make a difference?
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
See my earlier comment re: ignorance regarding sanctions.

"Sanctions were supposed to literally destroy Russia" - lol at the low IQ hyperbole to desperately try to prove a point.
What hyperbole? The purpose of sanctions was to end the Ukrainian conflict by literally destroying the Russian economy and causing regime change. If you want to move the goal post back and pretend that's not cope then you do you bruh
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
What hyperbole? The purpose of sanctions was to end the Ukrainian conflict by literally destroying the Russian economy and causing regime change. If you want to move the goal post back and pretend that's not cope then you do you bruh
You're moving the goalposts.

Sanctions cannot end a war, they are an administrative tool. This basic fact eludes you. When the Tatmadaw took over Myanmar do you think the arms embargo was designed to stop the air strikes against civilians? Or to stop the subject persons from exporting weapons there?

Again: you and other folks talk sanctions like kids playing at foreign policy expertise. It is laughable.
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
You're moving the goalposts.

Sanctions cannot end a war, they are an administrative tool. This basic fact eludes you. When the Tatmadaw took over Myanmar do you think the arms embargo was designed to stop the air strikes against civilians? Or to stop the subject persons from exporting weapons there?

Again: you and other folks talk sanctions like kids playing at foreign policy expertise. It is laughable.
I think you should read the first couple pages of this thread. It isn't me that predicted this outcome from sanctions.
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
You're moving the goalposts.

Sanctions cannot end a war, they are an administrative tool. This basic fact eludes you. When the Tatmadaw took over Myanmar do you think the arms embargo was designed to stop the air strikes against civilians? Or to stop the subject persons from exporting weapons there?

Again: you and other folks talk sanctions like kids playing at foreign policy expertise. It is laughable.
Are the sanctions working?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Are the sanctions working?
They are working. In favour of Russia.

They weed out all the globalists from the government, they are developing all the tech they previously bought abroad (because globalist in goverment were saying that buying abrod instead using their own is a good idea), they are reindustrializing, their economy is growing again, while west is going into a long recesion and deindustrializing.
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Originally Posted By devopsengineer
They are working. In favour of Russia.

They weed out all the globalists from the government, they are developing all the tech they previously bought abroad (because globalist in goverment were saying that buying abrod instead using their own is a good idea), they are reindustrializing, their economy is growing again, while west is going into a long recesion and deindustrializing.
this happened.


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Originally Posted By EngineerDinger
this happened.


lol
Google this word: Chubais
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"Russia could find itself with no money as soon as next year and needs foreign investment, outspoken Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska has said.

“There will be no money already next year, we need foreign investors,” he said at an economic conference in Siberia Thursday, according to comments reported by TASS, a Russian state-owned news agency."



We DonT NEeD ThE WeSt
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Deripaska has no money. Maybe he should work more, and eat less. And give less stocks of his companies to USA for free, in echange for lifting sanctions. Treachery does not pay off.
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Originally Posted By EngineerDinger
"Russia could find itself with no money as soon as next year and needs foreign investment, outspoken Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska has said.

“There will be no money already next year, we need foreign investors,” he said at an economic conference in Siberia Thursday, according to comments reported by TASS, a Russian state-owned news agency."



We DonT NEeD ThE WeSt
You make it sound like they're totally isolated.

Also, Western Europe isn't suffering terrible inflation and skyrocketing energy prices right now?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You make it sound like they're totally isolated.

Also, Western Europe isn't suffering terrible inflation and skyrocketing energy prices right now?
Deripaska is an idiot. He gave away his share in Rusal in exchange for lifting sanctions that were on his name. That was few years ago. And now he got new sanctions. No wonder he has no money, he is like indian giving land for marbles.

But Russia is not Deripaska. Russia does well, Deripaskas are going extinct like Indians.

He is one of those Globalists that I spoke about few posts above
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You make it sound like they're totally isolated.

Also, Western Europe isn't suffering terrible inflation and skyrocketing energy prices right now?
Cool whataboutism Dave.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You make it sound like they're totally isolated.

Also, Western Europe isn't suffering terrible inflation and skyrocketing energy prices right now?
Thats right, sanctions were supposed to isolate russia. Instead it created a competing economic axis

Sort of the opposite of the intended outcome. Woops
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
I think you should read the first couple pages of this thread. It isn't me that predicted this outcome from sanctions.
I think you should read my posts in full. I blasted anyone using the phrase 'sanctions' ignorantly, and that includes folks saying that these sanctions had the chance of 'stopping the war'.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Are the sanctions working?
For their desired effect? Yes. But can you understand what their desired effect is, based on the quote you posted?
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
I think you should read my posts in full. I blasted anyone using the phrase 'sanctions' ignorantly, and that includes folks saying that these sanctions had the chance of 'stopping the war'.



For their desired effect? Yes. But can you understand what their desired effect is, based on the quote you posted?
Well, as Stizzel keeps proving to you all, they're not working.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Well, as Stizzel keeps proving to you all, they're not working.
Dave, hanging your cock around Jizzel is a bad idea. Dude is dumb as a rock.
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
You're moving the goalposts.

Sanctions cannot end a war, they are an administrative tool. This basic fact eludes you. When the Tatmadaw took over Myanmar do you think the arms embargo was designed to stop the air strikes against civilians? Or to stop the subject persons from exporting weapons there?

Again: you and other folks talk sanctions like kids playing at foreign policy expertise. It is laughable.
What impact do sanctions have on a country using a brand new system of their own?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Well, as Stizzel keeps proving to you all, they're not working.
All who? There is only one of me, and you were incapable of answering my question. So the only person who has proved anything here is me, if you bothered to read my posts.
Originally Posted By jamalfudge
What impact do sanctions have on a country using a brand new system of their own?
What's this 'brand new system'? They are importing weapons from the DPRK - let that sink in, before considering this new 'axis'.
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
All who? There is only one of me, and you were incapable of answering my question. So the only person who has proved anything here is me, if you bothered to read my posts.



What's this 'brand new system'? They are importing weapons from the DPRK - let that sink in, before considering this new 'axis'.
What does that mean to you? That Russia is done?

In reality that only means that Korea and Russia have same artilery callbire.

Russia is outgunning Ukraine in artilery, but there is no such thing as too much shells in a war. And 152mm caliber can be found only in North Korea and Russia. Even without imports, Russia was outgunning ukraine.
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Originally Posted By devopsengineer
What does that mean to you? That Russia is done?

In reality that only means that Korea and Russia have same artilery callbire.

Russia is outgunning Ukraine in artilery, but there is no such thing as too much shells in a war. And 152mm caliber can be found only in North Korea and Russia. Even without imports, Russia was outgunning ukraine.
This is true. Only Russia and NK are using WWI artillery.


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Originally Posted By EngineerDinger
This is true. Only Russia and NK are using WWI artillery.


lol
You think 3mm in 155mm NATO standard make it better somehow?

Simply up the diameter and you make it better?

Well then I have bad news for you. Russians also have Pion/Malka with 203mm shells.

In reality, 3mm make no diference, it is just diferent standard, like AC power outlets.
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Originally Posted By devopsengineer
You think 3mm in 155mm NATO standard make it better somehow?

Simply up the diameter and you make it better?

Well then I have bad news for you. Russians also have Pion/Malka with 203mm shells.

In reality, 3mm make no diference, it is just diferent standard, like AC power outlets.
Diameter isn't as important as modern pieces, recently manufactured ammo, and trained operators. Russia has none of those things.

I get that you think the battle "tactic" called zerging is effective, but it isn't.
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