Jones already lost to Reyes. Ciryl barely lost a decis to the tuned up Ngannou that made Stipe his bitch. Stay tuned brah

Might be bettter tthat he isn't in hulk mode. Makes me think he's doing more conditioning rather than powerlifting all the time

You roll or train at all? Because, yeah, that’s like the most obvious definition of highly skilled grappler vs. a lowly skilled grappler.

Great grapplers seemingly defy physics with how heavy they feel, and how much pressure they can apply. Lowly skilled guys feel much lighter.

We have 185lb black belts / former all American wrestlers at my gym who feel like they weigh a ton, and 300lb white and blue belts who feel MUCH lighter.

Not right now but I have in the past

You have a point but Ngannou isn't just some average 300lb guy, he's a powerhouse, the biggest freak the UFCs ever had. At the end of the day Gane was carrying him for a good portion of that fight


Ngannou is actually the type of person that walks into a gym and destroy black belts

fuark boys

like I said my mind says Gane but my heart can't count Jones out, dude is def bringing it for this fight.

1k on jones finishing

the main card looks pretty good but the prelims look meh.

I hope you get it man, that would be an amazing accomplishment for Jones ending any GOAT discussions at all. I don't know how Jon could do it if the fight stays at distance on the feet since Gane is very tough having taken multiple shots from Shoeyvasa that put everyone else to sleep and he bounced back quick. But elbows in the clinch against the cage or on the ground with gnp to submission is possible.

We will see, just hoping the pressure and style of both guys doesn't end up with a social distancing fight.

40 seconds in... Is that what i think it is

Jones is doing A LOT of media. He's popping up for interviews on every channel, every MMA youtube etc. I never like to see fighters doing huge amounts of media before a big fight.

For what it is worth, I may not be completely blind and crazy. I was just listening to the 285 press conference and Jon Jones literally says the same that he has noticed after 2 maybe 3 rounds "a lot of that bounce is gone". I thought there was something eerily scary about the way Jon spoke breaking down everything about Gane's game in very technical detail in such a blunt, matter of fact tone to let Gane know it now that there is nothing he can do to change those things.

I thought The mental warfare and body language from Jones was very strong. He coldly, dead stared at Gane when he spoke daring him to look over but he wouldn't. Gane's frequent fidgeting, nervousnous, and even submissiveness to Jones' stoic, command and control of that environment was also very interesting. What if anything that means for the fight, I don't know, but it was pretty badass entertainment.


It sounds like Jones plans to repeat Ngannou's blueprint to wear Gane out early and destroy him with wrestling in the later rounds.

did you see the video I posted? i could be tripping but it legit looks like jones dropped a bag of coke


on that topic, I honestly don't think there's a single thing Jones can do to scare Gane, here's not that type of Guy. If anything Jones is trying to reassure himself, even the things he's saying about his past fights being more of a challenge than Gane is telling, if Jones doesn't think this is his toughest fight it won't end well for him. Gane knows what he's dealing with and isn't underestimating him



I kind of have a different view of the fight, it keeps changing in my mind but now I think Jones will do well early, possibly pressuring him near the cage and getting some clinch strikes but get outclassed in the later rounds. I think once Ciryl finds his rhythm Jones won't have the answers

Jones also said Ciryls defense is lacking, he relies on backing away with footwork. Man I'm not sure if he's saying that to get in his head or if he actually thinks that, because Ciryls striking defense is insanely good. Jones is actually the one that's relied on posturing away with his extended arms

I don't agree with Ciryl being a backwards fighter, he rarely counters and usually comes in first with combinations, sometimes he'll bounce and circle but it's not like he can't walk guys down. In his fights he usually does both. Jones on the other hand looks great when he's on the offense, possibly the best ever. But he doesn't have great defense. When Jones is pressured his go to every time is to extend his hand and circle. This worked throughout his career but became an obvious weakness exposed against his latter opponents.

Jones keeps saying Gane was outworked but in reality the fight was extremely close and could have gone either way, arguably to Gane according to the rules since Ngannou didn't do anything with his position. But lets say he was... Then it means he was outworked by the actual heavyweight champion whose been on a rampage, destroying the previous champion.


Even after Ngannou beat Stipe badly Jones made a funny tweet about staying retired. Personally I think Ngannou knocks Jones the **** out. He doesn't have the defensive footwork of stipe/gane which you need against a guy like him, yeah he could try to clinch/wrestle but that doesn't cut it.


Bro, do you remember the Stipe fight that Ngannou lost? Despite getting hammered the entire fight he was still coming at Stipe with his arms hanging not getting phased by punches to the face. The dudes a monster



Stipe basically showed what you needed to do to beat him, but then Ngannou learned how to defend a takedown and it was game over. From this point on the only way to beat him is to do what Ciryl did and outclass him on the feet, but that's easier said than done.



I do agree that whoever pushes forward will have the advantage in this fight. I think it'll start off being Jones but will end up in Ciryls favour

Hoping Jon wins just so we can see DC interview him and call him the GOAT.

That could still happen if he loses, IMO it might even be better cuz DC can sympathize with the loss.

Jones is the goat whether he wins or loses

I can't see Jones losing this one. If Gane can't handle wrestling Ngannou then how is he going to be able to deal with Jones? I think Jones wins this one convincingly.

There's a couple things going Gane's way in the wrestling aspect
1) Against Francis he has wrestling someone bigger
2) Against Jones he'll be wrestling someone smaller
3) He's had more time and preparation since the Francis fight
4) He'll be expecting wrestling more, I don't know if he expected Francis to wrestle so much

Jones will still out-wrestle him, but these factors could help sway things

It's funny how before this fight no one said 'Jones is gonna wrestlefuk him' to ANY of his opponents, but now they're saying it about the most athletic heavyweight of all time. Bruh

Who was saying Ciryl wasn't an athlete?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/E28OCyjXKgI

Dude could play any sport he wants and succeed at it. He's even good at fifa LMAO

Jones actually just weighed in a pound heavier. Was not expecting that, but I think there's more fat on Jones than Gane.

seriously thinking about doing the unthinkable and betting on gane by sub. If Jon gest on top I can see him getting overcomplacent and getting caught in something. Would be a ballsy af bet but im feelin looose

That's fair, you are right that Gane is more an initiator than a counter striker and when he connects with that first shot comes in aggressively if he doesn't connect he steps back to distance and looks for another chance. While Jones in his most recent phoned in fights, he had a similar, circle, strike, reset strategy and when comes in he is more looking to clinch and fight in close with elbows, get a trip, etc since his hands haven't had the power to stun. It will be interesting to see how Jones' extended arm defense works in this one.

No doubt Ngannou is a unique type of beast and Stipe trying that style the second time got him pummeled. Considering Ngannou didn't even start fight training until he was about the age Jon Jones was when he became champion, it is crazy think what he would be if he had started training as a kid.

You bringing up the Stipe fights and how Ngannou very effectively improved his takedown defense in response and then even developed pretty decent offensive wrestling he showed against Gane that is very impressive to have done with his training time makes me think how much Gane's takedown defense will have improved due to the Ngannou fight and preparing for Jones. Takedown defense seems to improve pretty fast these days.

Natty gains are rough man. A guy his age and training can't just slap on muscle like everyone thinks.

Well said brah

Bout to place my bet. Hyped as fook for this fight

who said he wasn't an athlete

i think it's pretty obvious he is an insane and talented athlete

What site do you guys use to bet on the fight?
I gotta put some money on Jones

Stake.com, it even gives u a free live stream

if i were betting i'd bet on gane since you just don't know how jones will look with the extra weight + he hasn't fought in years.

But jones is one of the best ever so who knows.