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03-04-2023, 11:26 PM
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I remember when Adesanya said he could beat Jone jones...hahahahaha....oh my...
03-04-2023, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted By CanardMedic⏩
Adesanya cant grapple for shttI remember when Adesanya said he could beat Jone jones...hahahahaha....oh my...
he might get lucky KO 1/10 fights with jones
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03-04-2023, 11:40 PM
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03-04-2023, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Jones has said this many times before and then took another 3 years offhe seems to want to make up for lost time and make some real money.
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03-04-2023, 11:54 PM
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Seriously, a couple of you clowns need to quit with the analysis after your Volk and Gane predictions.
But Iāll give folks some slack who havenāt been following MMA for a while, and especially not truly appreciating Jon Jones. You simply donāt know what you donāt know.
Jon Jones, when motivated, is on such a different level that is hard to describe. Itās like trying to explain to young heads how truly next level Jordan was.
But Iāll give folks some slack who havenāt been following MMA for a while, and especially not truly appreciating Jon Jones. You simply donāt know what you donāt know.
Jon Jones, when motivated, is on such a different level that is hard to describe. Itās like trying to explain to young heads how truly next level Jordan was.
03-04-2023, 11:56 PM
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03-05-2023, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
Right on man, completely agree. It is fun to debate with each other on their skill, technique, who we think will win fights, etc but we don't know these people personally and do not know how we would handle the spotlight Jones has been under for a long time. We are in no place to judge these people personally.I love Jon the fighter. No one is perfect. Even on misc I see people putting others down but you have no ideas what demons they are fighting. I couldn't care less what Jon has done in his personal life
03-05-2023, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted By akmerle⏩
since you obviously mean me lol. This one was a terrible look for me, no doubtSeriously, a couple of you clowns need to quit with the analysis after your Volk and Gane predictions.
But Iāll give folks some slack who havenāt been following MMA for a while, and especially not truly appreciating Jon Jones. You simply donāt know what you donāt know.
Jon Jones, when motivated, is on such a different level that is hard to describe. Itās like trying to explain to young heads how truly next level Jordan was.
But Iāll give folks some slack who havenāt been following MMA for a while, and especially not truly appreciating Jon Jones. You simply donāt know what you donāt know.
Jon Jones, when motivated, is on such a different level that is hard to describe. Itās like trying to explain to young heads how truly next level Jordan was.
the volk one wasn't though, big underdog that gave a close fight. People still argue about the 4th round, no where near comparable to this so idk why you mentioned it
still successfully predicted the last 4 title fights correctly, but yeah this was a bad look so i can't be mad. Shouldn't of bet against the goat
03-05-2023, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
No doubt, no one expected it to go that way without even a fight. I was worried seeing how nervous Jones was in the walkout, even trying to crawl into the cage before getting the inspection, but damn once that bell rung we saw the Jon Jones from his 20s that destroyed all those legends again.Won more predictions than i've lost brah, no one predicted it to end this way.
Honestly not even mad that I lost 1k lol. HW is gonna look crazy now
Honestly not even mad that I lost 1k lol. HW is gonna look crazy now
Enjoyed the intelligent back and forth discussion about the fight and athletes with no need for childish insults. On to the next!
03-05-2023, 01:07 AM
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He called Francis a Big Ol Pussy
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03-05-2023, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Ravishing_Rick⏩
And he is totally right, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt in that he may end up being a SMART Big Ol Pussy.He called Francis a Big Ol Pussy
He is far from what I would call an intelligent fighter with a high fight IQ, and not well rounded. Jon would similarly develop a game plan to make Francis look just as amateurish as he made Gane look.
Now if he is smart, he waits for Jon to mop the floor with Stipe (who I really like and respect, btw), and then do WHATEVER it takes to force the UFCās hand into setting up a super fight with Jon.
As a Jon Jones fan, I really donāt want a repeat of late LHW Jones career, and I donāt see him getting motivated for the Blaydes v. Pavlovich winner, especially in his later 30ās. But could totally see him being motivated for a Francis fight.
03-05-2023, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted By akmerle⏩
haha, I've tried several times and putting SMART in front of Big Ol Pussy doesn't make it sound any better. We all just saw why Ngannou turned down the contract and it had nothing to do with "terms". He didn't want to be that guy that got destroyed by HW Jon Jones. Jon just erased any bit of legitimate claim to legacy Ngannou may have thought he had by so easily disposing of this "new breed of HW athlete", lol. I agree Jon would highly enjoy beating the shyte out of Ngannou, but Francis didn't want the fight before and he certainly won't have anything to do with it now that we know motivated, older, HW Jon Jones is an equal or better fighter than he was in his 20s.And he is totally right, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt in that he may end up being a SMART Big Ol Pussy.
He is far from what I would call an intelligent fighter with a high fight IQ, and not well rounded. Jon would similarly develop a game plan to make Francis look just as amateurish as he made Gane look.
Now if he is smart, he waits for Jon to mop the floor with Stipe (who I really like and respect, btw), and then do WHATEVER it takes to force the UFCās hand into setting up a super fight with Jon.
As a Jon Jones fan, I really donāt want a repeat of late LHW Jones career, and I donāt see him getting motivated for the Blaydes v. Pavlovich winner, especially in his later 30ās. But could totally see him being motivated for a Francis fight.
He is far from what I would call an intelligent fighter with a high fight IQ, and not well rounded. Jon would similarly develop a game plan to make Francis look just as amateurish as he made Gane look.
Now if he is smart, he waits for Jon to mop the floor with Stipe (who I really like and respect, btw), and then do WHATEVER it takes to force the UFCās hand into setting up a super fight with Jon.
As a Jon Jones fan, I really donāt want a repeat of late LHW Jones career, and I donāt see him getting motivated for the Blaydes v. Pavlovich winner, especially in his later 30ās. But could totally see him being motivated for a Francis fight.
It will be interesting to see what Jones does after beating up Stipe, but I don't think he will make the same mistake again signing up to fight opponents that mean absolutely nothing to him and don't belong in the same cage. He has absolutely nothing left to prove in the slightest.
03-05-2023, 03:37 AM
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Lol at anyone that bet against the GOAT.
Y'all must have forgot.
Made it look easy just like he said.
He stands at the top of the mountain far away from the rest.
Y'all must have forgot.
Made it look easy just like he said.
He stands at the top of the mountain far away from the rest.
There is but one path....we kill them all.
03-05-2023, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
You think 45 year old brock lesnar, who hasn't fought in 7 years, and was likely abusing steroids when he was fighting, and still wasn't that great.... and who hasn't been training mma, and who tried to make a comeback to fight DC but couldn't pass a drug test....So?
that's who you want to see fight the GOAT?
Go look at other guys in their late 40s who have fought MMA. It's not pretty. Maybe a person here or two if they can get on the right PEDs can fight competently... but in general it's just sad when those guys fight.
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03-05-2023, 07:32 AM
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03-05-2023, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted By mryamamoto⏩
She fought just as good as she always has, she doesn't didn't expect such a tough opponent. When Alexa started rocking Valentina early in the striking exchanges the takedowns from Valentina were extremely good and quick. I don't think I've ever seen her take anyone down like that, those double-leg shots were GSP-like. The problem was as good as the takedowns were, Alexa defended herself well on the ground and got back to her feet which is where Valentina did not want to be. Valentina got frustrated and knew her path to a W was point fighting instead of a finish, but holy chit was Grasso explosive going for Valentina's back during that spin. We all know how fast Valentina's spinning strikes are but Alexa was ON IT!Valentina is turning 35 in 2 days.
Hard to focus on training and fighting when your biological clock is ticking, telling you to get mounted by a man, getting creampied 24/7 and raising some lil rascals.
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03-05-2023, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
Jones wants Brock and I want BrockDamn! I thought I was old.
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He snd I should meet face to face and fight over him.
I donāt see a path to victory for Brock but itād be at heavyweight so never know.
03-05-2023, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By akmerle⏩
Everyone knew that this fight was 100% dependent on how Jon looked. It wasn't unreasonable to assume that his age, layoff, and weight gain would have affected him negatively. He also had 3 lackluster fights back to back to back before the 3 year layoff.Seriously, a couple of you clowns need to quit with the analysis after your Volk and Gane predictions.
But Iāll give folks some slack who havenāt been following MMA for a while, and especially not truly appreciating Jon Jones. You simply donāt know what you donāt know.
Jon Jones, when motivated, is on such a different level that is hard to describe. Itās like trying to explain to young heads how truly next level Jordan was.
But Iāll give folks some slack who havenāt been following MMA for a while, and especially not truly appreciating Jon Jones. You simply donāt know what you donāt know.
Jon Jones, when motivated, is on such a different level that is hard to describe. Itās like trying to explain to young heads how truly next level Jordan was.
You can't take a victory lap on a complete guess, just because you happened to be right. You couldn't possibly haveknownthat Jon was going to look just as good as he used to.
No one expected Gane to utterly fold under the pressure either (probably should have, french etc). I don't believe that was the best Gane had to offer. The difference is, Jon thrives in those situations, like a true GOAT.
03-05-2023, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
perfect take. i think (almost) everyone knew if jones looked like he did years ago he would win.Everyone knew that this fight was 100% dependent on how Jon looked. It wasn't unreasonable to assume that his age, layoff, and weight gain would have affected him negatively. He also had 3 lackluster fights back to back to back before the 3 year layoff.
You can't take a victory lap on a complete guess, just because you happened to be right. You couldn't possibly haveknownthat Jon was going to look just as good as he used to.
No one expected Gane to utterly fold under the pressure either (probably should have, french etc). I don't believe that was the best Gane had to offer. The difference is, Jon thrives in those situations, like a true GOAT.
You can't take a victory lap on a complete guess, just because you happened to be right. You couldn't possibly haveknownthat Jon was going to look just as good as he used to.
No one expected Gane to utterly fold under the pressure either (probably should have, french etc). I don't believe that was the best Gane had to offer. The difference is, Jon thrives in those situations, like a true GOAT.
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03-05-2023, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
yeah lol pretty sad, when i picked the exact method ngannou beat gane i just said 'told ya', i didn't go and call everyone a retardEveryone knew that this fight was 100% dependent on how Jon looked. It wasn't unreasonable to assume that his age, layoff, and weight gain would have affected him negatively. He also had 3 lackluster fights back to back to back before the 3 year layoff.
You can't take a victory lap on a complete guess, just because you happened to be right. You couldn't possibly haveknownthat Jon was going to look just as good as he used to.
No one expected Gane to utterly fold under the pressure either (probably should have, french etc). I don't believe that was the best Gane had to offer. The difference is, Jon thrives in those situations, like a true GOAT.
You can't take a victory lap on a complete guess, just because you happened to be right. You couldn't possibly haveknownthat Jon was going to look just as good as he used to.
No one expected Gane to utterly fold under the pressure either (probably should have, french etc). I don't believe that was the best Gane had to offer. The difference is, Jon thrives in those situations, like a true GOAT.
i guess aspinall is a casual for choosing gane too
i'll take the L tho i don't mind. I still think Gane has a lot more to offer, i like that he said he was angry at himself for wasting his training partners time. Dude is going to come back even better
03-05-2023, 08:26 AM
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03-05-2023, 08:50 AM
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Hang on, this "akmerle" ****git is calling people clowns because of a wrong prediction in MMA? He specifically mentioned the Islam/Volk fight as well as if he called that one but THIS was his take? lmao what
You're supposedly 44 years old and are acting like a pretentious cretin on a bodybuilding forum subsection. There's only one clown here, bucko.
Originally Posted By akmerle⏩
Yea bro, you were only totally wrong abouteverything. Top tier analysis. You must train, right? RIGHT? YOU TRAIN, YEAH?Islam runs through Alex like a hot knife through butter. Islam is MASSIVE for 155, and Alex is small for 145. The size / weight discrepancy gives Islam too many advantages given the two fighter's styles.
Alex does not have power for 145, let alone at 155, and his reach will not enable him to get close enough to use any possible technical striking advantage. I honestly dont think Alex has much a striking advantage anyhow given how clean Islam stays, and Islam has better kicks.
So if Alex has to overextend to get into range, that will set up Islam to promptly take him down. If Alex somehow gets in close, then Islam clinches him up to trip / drag him down, or bullies him against the fence where the same thing happens.
Once grounded Islam will easily be able to control him with the simply irresistible Khabib / Dhagistani top game. Dynamic / explosive / powerful escapes to scramble that Alex can normally do will not work on Islam. Alex is not a threat from his back, so I think Islam finishes him however is most convenient.
I'm calling Round 2, Islam chokes Alex out cold (he is a warrior, and will not tap) via RNC after Alex tries to scramble out of G&P.
Alex does not have power for 145, let alone at 155, and his reach will not enable him to get close enough to use any possible technical striking advantage. I honestly dont think Alex has much a striking advantage anyhow given how clean Islam stays, and Islam has better kicks.
So if Alex has to overextend to get into range, that will set up Islam to promptly take him down. If Alex somehow gets in close, then Islam clinches him up to trip / drag him down, or bullies him against the fence where the same thing happens.
Once grounded Islam will easily be able to control him with the simply irresistible Khabib / Dhagistani top game. Dynamic / explosive / powerful escapes to scramble that Alex can normally do will not work on Islam. Alex is not a threat from his back, so I think Islam finishes him however is most convenient.
I'm calling Round 2, Islam chokes Alex out cold (he is a warrior, and will not tap) via RNC after Alex tries to scramble out of G&P.
You're supposedly 44 years old and are acting like a pretentious cretin on a bodybuilding forum subsection. There's only one clown here, bucko.
03-05-2023, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
It's too bad about Aspinall. He had so much potential, I was a huge fan, and thought he was going to take over the division. Who knows if he'll ever recover 100%...yeah, he would pretty much run a train on the whole division
heavyweight division still too one-dimensional
tuivasa only has KO power
Gane apparently can't grapple
Pavlovich would get grappled
Blaydes might have the best chance
Aspinall not yet
Lewis/Rozenstruick probably not, unless flash KO
Volkov no
heavyweight division still too one-dimensional
tuivasa only has KO power
Gane apparently can't grapple
Pavlovich would get grappled
Blaydes might have the best chance
Aspinall not yet
Lewis/Rozenstruick probably not, unless flash KO
Volkov no
03-05-2023, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
Best HW athlete lmao.yeah lol pretty sad, when i picked the exact method ngannou beat gane i just said 'told ya', i didn't go and call everyone a retard
i guess aspinall is a casual for choosing gane too
i'll take the L tho i don't mind. I still think Gane has a lot more to offer, i like that he said he was angry at himself for wasting his training partners time. Dude is going to come back even better
i guess aspinall is a casual for choosing gane too
i'll take the L tho i don't mind. I still think Gane has a lot more to offer, i like that he said he was angry at himself for wasting his training partners time. Dude is going to come back even better
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
gane could grapple for a lifetime and still wouldn't catch up to jon jones srsyeah lol pretty sad, when i picked the exact method ngannou beat gane i just said 'told ya', i didn't go and call everyone a retard
i guess aspinall is a casual for choosing gane too
i'll take the L tho i don't mind. I still think Gane has a lot more to offer, i like that he said he was angry at himself for wasting his training partners time. Dude is going to come back even better
i guess aspinall is a casual for choosing gane too
i'll take the L tho i don't mind. I still think Gane has a lot more to offer, i like that he said he was angry at himself for wasting his training partners time. Dude is going to come back even better
he's just on another level as exemplified by tonight.
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That was embarrassing from Gane. Wtf was he doing since Tai fight playing Fifa?
I know they were trying to sell bunch of ppv so in lead up ignored that Gane got taken down by Francis with two blown acl's.
To me this last night was Lewis vs Cormier basically.
As for next fight...Stipe has nothing for Jon.
Stipe is like thousand years old.
Jones can take him down or just chop his legs down with leg kicks.
Easy win for Jones.
Only challenge for Jon could be Blaydes or Sergei.
I know they were trying to sell bunch of ppv so in lead up ignored that Gane got taken down by Francis with two blown acl's.
To me this last night was Lewis vs Cormier basically.
As for next fight...Stipe has nothing for Jon.
Stipe is like thousand years old.
Jones can take him down or just chop his legs down with leg kicks.
Easy win for Jones.
Only challenge for Jon could be Blaydes or Sergei.
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I think UFC is gonna win big on this return arc from Jones.
Jones can beat Stipe easy.
Fight winner of Blaydes/Sergei.
Than just sits and waits for the biggest pay day.
Meanwhile Francis will get one boxing pro fight. Get destroyed (especially if rumors are true its gonna be Wilder)
All the hype /draw goes away.
In the background Dana will be waiting.
Dec 2024.
Jones vs Francis.
Jones can beat Stipe easy.
Fight winner of Blaydes/Sergei.
Than just sits and waits for the biggest pay day.
Meanwhile Francis will get one boxing pro fight. Get destroyed (especially if rumors are true its gonna be Wilder)
All the hype /draw goes away.
In the background Dana will be waiting.
Dec 2024.
Jones vs Francis.
03-05-2023, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Francis isn't ever coming back to the UFC.I think UFC is gonna win big on this return arc from Jones.
Jones can beat Stipe easy.
Fight winner of Blaydes/Sergei.
Than just sits and waits for the biggest pay day.
Meanwhile Francis will get one boxing pro fight. Get destroyed (especially if rumors are true its gonna be Wilder)
All the hype /draw goes away.
In the background Dana will be waiting.
Dec 2024.
Jones vs Francis.
Jones can beat Stipe easy.
Fight winner of Blaydes/Sergei.
Than just sits and waits for the biggest pay day.
Meanwhile Francis will get one boxing pro fight. Get destroyed (especially if rumors are true its gonna be Wilder)
All the hype /draw goes away.
In the background Dana will be waiting.
Dec 2024.
Jones vs Francis.
03-05-2023, 11:03 AM
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