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lmao Chael just outed lebron as a roider.
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
So what about the Malone/Stockton Jazz team and the 2011 Mavs team? You see how easy that is. All you can do is compare results of who each guy has played. 6 rings 6 finals MVPs every finals finished by game 6.Great retort there chief. You realized how silly it was to say Charles Barkley was more competition than the entire GSW squad and decided to dodge. Proud of you
03-09-2023, 11:59 AM
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this is the main reason why lebron does not win, and he will never break the top 10 all time
03-09-2023, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By DeputyDong5⏩
Jordan 3-peated twice with 2 different rostersSo what about the Malone/Stockton Jazz team and the 2011 Mavs team? You see how easy that is. All you can do is compare results of who each guy has played. 6 rings 6 finals MVPs every finals finished by game 6.
lebron cant even do it once
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03-09-2023, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By DeputyDong5⏩
The Malone/Stockton jazz was the only team MJ faced in the Finals that was better than the 2011 mavericksSo what about the Malone/Stockton Jazz team and the 2011 Mavs team? You see how easy that is. All you can do is compare results of who each guy has played. 6 rings 6 finals MVPs every finals finished by game 6.
03-09-2023, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
Jordan has Phil Jackson and Scottie the whole timeJordan 3-peated twice with 2 different rosters
lebron cant even do it once
lebron cant even do it once
The rest of the roster was equally good for that entire 8 year span
03-09-2023, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Phil Jackson is not Phil Jackson if he never coached MJJordan has Phil Jackson and Scottie the whole time
The rest of the roster was equally good for that entire 8 year span
The rest of the roster was equally good for that entire 8 year span
Phil Jackson is who he is because Jordan.
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03-09-2023, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
True.. I mean Phil never won anything besides with the BullsPhil Jackson is not Phil Jackson if he never coached MJ
Phil Jackson is who he is because Jordan.
Phil Jackson is who he is because Jordan.
Oh wait
03-10-2023, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Retard alert! (The guy you quoted)He was the 70 win team because his GM put together the most dominant team to ever play til the 2016 GSW showed up
Ask yourself this, why did the 94 Bulls make it to the second round of the playoffs and go to a game 7 with the Knicks WITHOUT Jordan? The same Knicks they had taken to a game 7 with Jordan the previous year?
Then ask yourself how the 2015 Heat did? How did the 2019 Cavs do?
Ask yourself this, why did the 94 Bulls make it to the second round of the playoffs and go to a game 7 with the Knicks WITHOUT Jordan? The same Knicks they had taken to a game 7 with Jordan the previous year?
Then ask yourself how the 2015 Heat did? How did the 2019 Cavs do?
The 1994 Bulls won 55 games the year Jordan left. The year before, they won 57 games. Only TWO games less without MJ. That's how good his teams and that coach were.
LeBron's last year during his first Cavs stint they went 61-21. The year after when he left, they went 19-63. MJ could never carry a team like LeBron. Not even ****ing close.
03-10-2023, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
The league was weak as hell back then due to expansion teams and the lack of international stars. A modern team would absolutely spank a 90s team. Well never see back to back 3-peats again because the league is way too strong. No team will be good enough to do that again. The KD warriors were a fluke situation because the cap jumped bigly and they were able to afford KD.Imagine thinking drexler all by himself or Gary Payton or Charles Barkley by himself is anywhere close to curry/Durant/klay/green or Duncan/Parker/manu/kawhi lol
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Originally Posted By macmoney⏩
If only he had nothing to do with China - like MJ.He's a cuck, duh.
look at how he bends over for Chyna
look at how he bends over for Chyna
03-10-2023, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
Go back to praying you dumby. Your basketball knowledge is trash.Phil Jackson is not Phil Jackson if he never coached MJ
Phil Jackson is who he is because Jordan.
Phil Jackson is who he is because Jordan.
03-11-2023, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
RidiculousThe Malone/Stockton jazz was the only team MJ faced in the Finals that was better than the 2011 mavericks
It's difficult to measure teams against each other from different eras. But what you can do is measure their def/off ratings relative to their era.
Mavs off/def ratings 8th/8th
Suns 1st/9th
Sonics 8th/2nd
Blazers 7th/3rd
Lakers 5th/5th
And MJ beat the Jazz, twice.
It appears that EVERY single team that Mike beat in the finals was better than the team LeBron lost to with multiple HoF teammates.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
Phil Jackson is not Phil Jackson if he never coached MJ
Phil Jackson is who he is because Jordan.
Phil Jackson is who he is because Jordan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSGTsjkHzM4
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Originally Posted By DeputyDong5⏩
That era was weak as ****. Multiple expansion teams diluting the league and few international players. You have no idea what you're talking about.Ridiculous
It's difficult to measure teams against each other from different eras. But what you can do is measure their def/off ratings relative to their era.
Mavs off/def ratings 8th/8th
Suns 1st/9th
Sonics 8th/2nd
Blazers 7th/3rd
Lakers 5th/5th
And MJ beat the Jazz, twice.
It appears that EVERY single team that Mike beat in the finals was better than the team LeBron lost to with multiple HoF teammates.
It's difficult to measure teams against each other from different eras. But what you can do is measure their def/off ratings relative to their era.
Mavs off/def ratings 8th/8th
Suns 1st/9th
Sonics 8th/2nd
Blazers 7th/3rd
Lakers 5th/5th
And MJ beat the Jazz, twice.
It appears that EVERY single team that Mike beat in the finals was better than the team LeBron lost to with multiple HoF teammates.
03-11-2023, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By DeputyDong5⏩
That's just not even remotely true, and MJs biggest fans would call you stupid if you made that jumpRidiculous
It's difficult to measure teams against each other from different eras. But what you can do is measure their def/off ratings relative to their era.
Mavs off/def ratings 8th/8th
Suns 1st/9th
Sonics 8th/2nd
Blazers 7th/3rd
Lakers 5th/5th
And MJ beat the Jazz, twice.
It appears that EVERY single team that Mike beat in the finals was better than the team LeBron lost to with multiple HoF teammates.
It's difficult to measure teams against each other from different eras. But what you can do is measure their def/off ratings relative to their era.
Mavs off/def ratings 8th/8th
Suns 1st/9th
Sonics 8th/2nd
Blazers 7th/3rd
Lakers 5th/5th
And MJ beat the Jazz, twice.
It appears that EVERY single team that Mike beat in the finals was better than the team LeBron lost to with multiple HoF teammates.
The Spurs (all iterations), and Warriors (all iterations), and OKC chit all over any MJ finals opponent.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
prime wade and prime irving sh*t all over and iterations of teammates mj hadThat's just not even remotely true, and MJs biggest fans would call you stupid if you made that jump
The Spurs (all iterations), and Warriors (all iterations), and OKC chit all over any MJ finals opponent.
The Spurs (all iterations), and Warriors (all iterations), and OKC chit all over any MJ finals opponent.
chris bosh will probably be HOF too, wouldn't surprise me.
idk why you stan lebron so much, you must be blind to the clown show act he pulls.
What's your stance on "crab dribbling?" aka traveling
What's your stance on him stiff arming people?
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
Yes the guy who also went on and coached the Lakers to a threepeatPhil Jackson is not Phil Jackson if he never coached MJ
Phil Jackson is who he is because Jordan.
Phil Jackson is who he is because Jordan.
Just lol at the low IQ babble
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Originally Posted By DeputyDong5⏩
As has been stated multiple times in this thread, the 90s had some of the most dilluted teams in basketball. Six expansion era teams and hardly any interntional players (besides kukoc, who was on the bulls, lol). It's not difficult at all to measure teams from different eras: 90s eras teams not named the bulls suckedRidiculous
It's difficult to measure teams against each other from different eras. But what you can do is measure their def/off ratings relative to their era.
Mavs off/def ratings 8th/8th
Suns 1st/9th
Sonics 8th/2nd
Blazers 7th/3rd
Lakers 5th/5th
And MJ beat the Jazz, twice.
It appears that EVERY single team that Mike beat in the finals was better than the team LeBron lost to with multiple HoF teammates.
It's difficult to measure teams against each other from different eras. But what you can do is measure their def/off ratings relative to their era.
Mavs off/def ratings 8th/8th
Suns 1st/9th
Sonics 8th/2nd
Blazers 7th/3rd
Lakers 5th/5th
And MJ beat the Jazz, twice.
It appears that EVERY single team that Mike beat in the finals was better than the team LeBron lost to with multiple HoF teammates.
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Originally Posted By uwotm8st0pmirin⏩
Kyrie hasn't done ANYTHING without LeBron wtf are you talking about. Scottie Pippen by himself led his team better than Kyrie did with a stacked Boston team.prime wade and prime irving sh*t all over and iterations of teammates mj had
chris bosh will probably be HOF too, wouldn't surprise me.
idk why you stan lebron so much, you must be blind to the clown show act he pulls.
What's your stance on "crab dribbling?" aka traveling
What's your stance on him stiff arming people?
chris bosh will probably be HOF too, wouldn't surprise me.
idk why you stan lebron so much, you must be blind to the clown show act he pulls.
What's your stance on "crab dribbling?" aka traveling
What's your stance on him stiff arming people?
Wade was leading the Heat to 1st round exits before LeBron came there. It had been 5 years since Wade led his team to a finals run, and if we're honest Shaq was a huge part of that.
Chris Bosh was basically a worse Bradley Beal on the Wizards.. do you consider Beal a HOFer? Bosh is a HOFer strictly due to LeBron... Same with Kevin Love
LeBron is by far the worst officiated player since Shaq. Hell even this year, Jordan Clarkson came out and said the way to stop LeBron is to foul him cause you already know the refs aren't gonna call it
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bas...n-lebron-james
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
I can count on one hand the amount of times lebron has fouled out of a game. That's got nothing to do with his supposed 10000000 iqKyrie hasn't done ANYTHING without LeBron wtf are you talking about. Scottie Pippen by himself led his team better than Kyrie did with a stacked Boston team.
Wade was leading the Heat to 1st round exits before LeBron came there. It had been 5 years since Wade led his team to a finals run, and if we're honest Shaq was a huge part of that.
Chris Bosh was basically a worse Bradley Beal on the Wizards.. do you consider Beal a HOFer? Bosh is a HOFer strictly due to LeBron... Same with Kevin Love
LeBron is by far the worst officiated player since Shaq. Hell even this year, Jordan Clarkson came out and said the way to stop LeBron is to foul him cause you already know the refs aren't gonna call it
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bas...n-lebron-james
Wade was leading the Heat to 1st round exits before LeBron came there. It had been 5 years since Wade led his team to a finals run, and if we're honest Shaq was a huge part of that.
Chris Bosh was basically a worse Bradley Beal on the Wizards.. do you consider Beal a HOFer? Bosh is a HOFer strictly due to LeBron... Same with Kevin Love
LeBron is by far the worst officiated player since Shaq. Hell even this year, Jordan Clarkson came out and said the way to stop LeBron is to foul him cause you already know the refs aren't gonna call it
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bas...n-lebron-james
so lebron joins wade, now lebron is doing all the carrying huh? We just gonna ignore wade being on that team? ok. Shaq averaged 40 ppg vs the mavs? k then
since you ignore the traveling and stiff arming, what about "lebroning?"
anyways, lemme know when jordan gets a teammate that averaged 30 ppg like prime wade did
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Originally Posted By uwotm8st0pmirin⏩
Just lol at this retard^I can count on one hand the amount of times lebron has fouled out of a game. That's got nothing to do with his supposed 10000000 iq
so lebron joins wade, now lebron is doing all the carrying huh? We just gonna ignore wade being on that team? ok. Shaq averaged 40 ppg vs the mavs? k then
since you ignore the traveling and stiff arming, what about "lebroning?"
anyways, lemme know when jordan gets a teammate that averaged 30 ppg like prime wade did
so lebron joins wade, now lebron is doing all the carrying huh? We just gonna ignore wade being on that team? ok. Shaq averaged 40 ppg vs the mavs? k then
since you ignore the traveling and stiff arming, what about "lebroning?"
anyways, lemme know when jordan gets a teammate that averaged 30 ppg like prime wade did
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Originally Posted By uwotm8st0pmirin⏩
Uhh Shaq literally was robbed of MVP of the entire league in 05.. he was 2nd in voting and should have won it over Nash. Shaq was still one of the best players in the NBA when they won the next year. And I didn't say it was all Shaq, but that he def had alot to do with that teamI can count on one hand the amount of times lebron has fouled out of a game. That's got nothing to do with his supposed 10000000 iq
so lebron joins wade, now lebron is doing all the carrying huh? We just gonna ignore wade being on that team? ok. Shaq averaged 40 ppg vs the mavs? k then
since you ignore the traveling and stiff arming, what about "lebroning?"
anyways, lemme know when jordan gets a teammate that averaged 30 ppg like prime wade did
so lebron joins wade, now lebron is doing all the carrying huh? We just gonna ignore wade being on that team? ok. Shaq averaged 40 ppg vs the mavs? k then
since you ignore the traveling and stiff arming, what about "lebroning?"
anyways, lemme know when jordan gets a teammate that averaged 30 ppg like prime wade did
Every NBA star gets away with stuff, INCLUDING JORDAN. He was very well known for crying to the officials and baiting fouls, it's why he averaged a bunch of FTs like James Harden.
I mean Jordan Literally had a player on his team that was 3rd in MVP voting THE VERY NEXT YEAR THAT HE LEFT in Scottie Pippen and they only lost 2 less games in the regular season. Kyrie wasn't even an All Star in 2016, that's a fact. AD is the closest "in his prime" player that Bron has ever played with....... And Bron was still 2nd in MVP voting and won a chip with him
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Because he was raised by a woman and lacked an alpha father figure in the house. Same for Durant lacks it too.
Jordan, Curry, Kobe all have killer instinct because they were raised by strong father figures
Jordan, Curry, Kobe all have killer instinct because they were raised by strong father figures
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Originally Posted By Derplington⏩
by what metric were they weak.That era was weak as ****. Multiple expansion teams diluting the league and few international players. You have no idea what you're talking about.
you are your spewing low IQ , emotionally charged gibberish.
Gonna sit here and tell me every single team Mike beat in the finals wasn't better than that bum ass Mavs team lmao
Dirk, washed up Kidd, washed up Marion, Tyson Chandler, Jason Terry lmao. Even Barea was cooking lebron.
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Originally Posted By uwotm8st0pmirin⏩
LeTravel is also TEO of the NBA travel executive officer. Entire montages of this man just blatantly traveling. Same with him flopping. This compounded with his 70 IQ takes on social issues, I question anybody who choses to idolize him.I can count on one hand the amount of times lebron has fouled out of a game. That's got nothing to do with his supposed 10000000 iq
so lebron joins wade, now lebron is doing all the carrying huh? We just gonna ignore wade being on that team? ok. Shaq averaged 40 ppg vs the mavs? k then
since you ignore the traveling and stiff arming, what about "lebroning?"
anyways, lemme know when jordan gets a teammate that averaged 30 ppg like prime wade did
so lebron joins wade, now lebron is doing all the carrying huh? We just gonna ignore wade being on that team? ok. Shaq averaged 40 ppg vs the mavs? k then
since you ignore the traveling and stiff arming, what about "lebroning?"
anyways, lemme know when jordan gets a teammate that averaged 30 ppg like prime wade did
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
Easily. Chael is rightlmao Chael just outed lebron as a roider.
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Originally Posted By DeputyDong5⏩
No star powerby what metric were they weak.
you are your spewing low IQ , emotionally charged gibberish.
Gonna sit here and tell me every single team Mike beat in the finals wasn't better than that bum ass Mavs team lmao
Dirk, washed up Kidd, washed up Marion, Tyson Chandler, Jason Terry lmao. Even Barea was cooking lebron.
you are your spewing low IQ , emotionally charged gibberish.
Gonna sit here and tell me every single team Mike beat in the finals wasn't better than that bum ass Mavs team lmao
Dirk, washed up Kidd, washed up Marion, Tyson Chandler, Jason Terry lmao. Even Barea was cooking lebron.
Usually 1 star per team. 2 in the Jazz case. Meanwhile Jordan had a stacked team from 1988 to 1998
Expansion era with no Europeans players severely diluted the talent pool of the league
No zone defense
A high school team could have the top offensive and defensive rating in the country. It’s still a high school team playing against high school competition
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TBH I can't wait to see the Lakers at full strength when Lebron comes back. A complete unit having bron dish out assists and dunking on mofos having AD Dlo Schroder Reaves and all these other dudes .. It's over
I hope AD stays healthy cuz he is as important as Lebron is for the Lakers. Dude is a baller and his defense is great to have on the court
Would be insane to see Lebron win it all with a buzzer beater
But let's not forget who the Lakers were b4 the trade
To be honest the Jordan Lebron debate is tiring hence sometimes i don't have the energy to reply and even misc for that reason lmao. Both are GOATs in their own eras in their own ways but Jordan still got some stuff lebron don't
I hope AD stays healthy cuz he is as important as Lebron is for the Lakers. Dude is a baller and his defense is great to have on the court
Would be insane to see Lebron win it all with a buzzer beater
But let's not forget who the Lakers were b4 the trade
To be honest the Jordan Lebron debate is tiring hence sometimes i don't have the energy to reply and even misc for that reason lmao. Both are GOATs in their own eras in their own ways but Jordan still got some stuff lebron don't
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