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post 1678814613 03-12-2023, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
You know Dr. Embarek who I quoted was on the WHO team for Covid-19 origins investigations?

Go back to how I explained it:

2) If a lab worker goes out in the field to a bat cave to collect samples from bats and gets infected in the cave, or even at any point before making it back to the lab to study, that is still considered a lab leak. That is not a natural occurrence or spillover. That was a deliberate attempt to collect samples for lab research purposes.


If a lab worker never went into a bat cave to collect viral samples, would he have gotten infected? Just because it didn't happen in the lab, doesn't mean it isn't a lab-related incident. It falls under lab leak theory.
you lost him when you mentioned going outside
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
It's logic. They aren't exclusive.

Made in a lab != lab leak

If it was made in a lab, it is a lab leak. Not all lab leaks involve a virus made in a lab. This is basic logic, Cornell.
Tell me more about those natural origins lab leaks, wincel.



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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
you lost him when you mentioned going outside
Lmao. Indeed.

Fauci and wincel be on that new natural origins lab leak theory.
post 1678814723 03-12-2023, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Lmao. Indeed.

Fauci and wincel be on that new natural origins lab leak theory.
wincel probably has emailed Fauci a few times
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Tell me more about those natural origins lab leaks, wincel.



Fauci just told you a possibility. A dude working at a lab gets a naturally occurring virus and then inadvertently spreads it.

Natty? Check. Lab leak? Check.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Lmao. Indeed.

Fauci and wincel be on that new natural origins lab leak theory.
Fauci should hire me as his PR guy. I can get him out of this crap ez.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Fauci just told you a possibility. A dude working at a lab gets a naturally occurring virus and then inadvertently spreads it.

Natty? Check. Lab leak? Check.
read what you wrote again
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
read what you wrote again
Yeah and? Maybe you should read it...
post 1678814903 03-12-2023, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Yeah and? Maybe you should read it...
c'mon buddy, you're a self professed intellectual
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Fauci should hire me as his PR guy. I can get him out of this crap ez.
Well, you're half right... He should definitely hire you to do his PR since you would happily fellate him for free.

But nobody would ever take you seriously, and you wouldn't get him out of shiit. You'd be an even bigger laughing stock than Karine Jean-Pierre ffs.

Also... WHY does Fauci and the most deadly black plague zombie apocalypse virus of DOOM in the history of mankind need a PR department anyway? What happened, is "the science" not speaking for itself anymore?

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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Also... WHY does Fauci and the most deadly black plague zombie apocalypse virus of DOOM in the history of mankind need a PR department anyway? What happened, is "the science" not speaking for itself anymore?

Rekt
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
He's the unseen bad guy from the government in the movie ' The Dallas Buyer's Club.'. He is very much a politician, responsible for so much suffering. A bullet would be too kind.
A bullet would be too kind for people like you too, you unhinged psychopath. If any of you harm Fauci without due process, I can assure you there will be many bullets and not much kindness for the people responsible, including your highly esteemed rabble rousers.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
c'mon buddy, you're a self professed intellectual
You seem to have this mental defect where you are unable to understand "proper subset". It explains your racism and other irrational assertions.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Well, you're half right... He should definitely hire you to do his PR since you would happily fellate him for free.

But nobody would ever take you seriously, and you wouldn't get him out of shiit. You'd be an even bigger laughing stock than Karine Jean-Pierre ffs.

Also... WHY does Fauci and the most deadly black plague zombie apocalypse virus of DOOM in the history of mankind need a PR department anyway? What happened, is "the science" not speaking for itself anymore?

Deranged brainwashed nutjobs like you are unironically trying to murder him. So there is that.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
And this is exactly what I've been saying the entire time. Within the bounds of possibility but just no evidence.


Anyone who understands science knows we deal in plausibility and not certainty or proof and Fauci isn't lying here.


Just low IQ tradies who can't science ITT.
They can't even basic logic. This guy doesn't understand the idea of proper subset.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Deranged brainwashed nutjobs like you are unironically trying to murder him. So there is that.
No no no winnie... PUBLIC RELATIONS, you said.

Not PERSONAL SECURITY.

Kind of a big difference in the two in case you weren't aware.
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A lab worker getting infected has always been understood as being lab leak theory. It is not even questionable.

Fauci goes on CNN and attempts to redefine what lab leak theory means, and wincel twists himself in a pretzel trying to defend him.


Wincel is the biggest fuсking idiot on this forum. It is not even questionable.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
A bullet would be too kind for people like you too, you unhinged psychopath.
Unhinged psychopath.
Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
If any of you harm Fauci without due process, I can assure you there will be many bullets and not much kindness for the people responsible, including your highly esteemed rabble rousers.
Unhinged psychopath.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Unhinged psychopath.



Unhinged psychopath.
Kill yourself.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
A lab worker getting infected has always been understood as being lab leak theory. It is not even questionable.

Fauci goes on CNN and attempts to redefine what lab leak theory means, and wincel twists himself in a pretzel trying to defend him.


Wincel is the biggest fuсking idiot on this forum. It is not even questionable.
What? It's still a lab leak. Fauci's point is it can be of natural origin and a lab leak. Now you're just trolling, Cornell. Well, you were always just trolling anyway. But now you're being obvious about it.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Kill yourself.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Unhinged psychopath.



Unhinged psychopath.
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post 1678817363 03-12-2023, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
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Since you guys want to kill Fauci, I say kill yourselves first. Follow in your hero, Hitler's footsteps.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
What? It's still a lab leak. Fauci's point is it can be of natural origin and a lab leak. Now you're just trolling, Cornell. Well, you were always just trolling anyway. But now you're being obvious about it.
There is no such thing as a natural origins lab leak. It is just a lab leak. Everyone understands that it could be either an unaltered or engineered virus. It's still fuсking lab leak.
What is the lab-leak theory?

It's a suspicion that the coronavirus may have escaped, accidentally or otherwise, from a laboratory in the central Chinese city of Wuhan where the virus was first recorded.

Its supporters point to the presence of a major biological research facility in the city. The Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) has been studying coronaviruses in bats for over a decade.

The institute is a 40-minute drive from the Huanan wet market where the first cluster of infections emerged.

Those who entertain the theory say it could have leaked from a WIV lab and spread to the wet market. Most argue it would have been an unaltered virus collected from the wild, rather than engineered.

The controversial theory first emerged early on in the pandemic, and was promoted by then-US President Donald Trump. Some even suggested it could have been engineered as a possible biological weapon.


Is there another theory?

Yes, and it's called the "natural origin" theory.

This argues the virus spread naturally from animals, without the involvement of any scientists or laboratories.

Supporters of the natural origin hypothesis say Covid-19 emerged in bats and then jumped to humans, most likely through another animal, or "intermediary host".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57268111
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
There is no such thing as a natural origins lab leak. It is just a lab leak. Everyone understands that it could be either an unaltered or engineered virus. It's still fuсking lab leak.




https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57268111
Why not? Guy get infected with natural virus in lab. Leaks it. Natural origin lab leak.

That BBC link is still consistent with what I am saying, Cornell.

Edit: The first bolded is. Second bolded is bs. Too specific. Virus could be of natural origin and spread via a lab.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Why not? Guy get infected with natural virus in lab. Leaks it. Natural origin lab leak.

That BBC link is still consistent with what I am saying bro.
No it is not.
Is there another theory?

Yes, and it's called the "natural origin" theory.

This argues the virus spread naturally from animals, without the involvement of any scientists or laboratories.
The two theories are well-established. Everyone understands what they entail. Just because Fauci wants to make up natural origins lab leak, or redefine what lab leak means, doesn't mean it's gonna fly.

Sorry, guy. You're too stupid for this argument.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Why not? Guy get infected with natural virus in lab. Leaks it. Natural origin lab leak.

That BBC link is still consistent with what I am saying, Cornell.
Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
No it is not.







The two theories are well-established. Everyone understands what they entail. Just because Fauci wants to make up natural origins lab leak, or redefine what lab leak means, doesn't mean it's gonna fly.

Sorry, guy. You're too stupid for this argument.
I actually only saw the top part. It isn't consistent. And it's wrong.

BBC can say that. It seems kind of dumb to me. The word "origin" in natural origin means they are talking about...the origin...of the virus. Also, most who argued about the novel FCS, including you, pushed the idea that it was made inadvertently due to serial passaging or even deliberately engineered. That's why a lot of people, like Jeff Sachs, said it was "made in a lab". "Lab leak" is broader than that. Your BBC news thing is basically wrong.

I would encourage you to listen to actual scientists over mainstream media news btw. While on the subject, you'd also do well to study some biology. Good luck, Cornell.

The guy who wrote the news thing categorizes "natural origin" too narrowly. Something that leaks from a lab can be of natural origin or it might not be. It leaking from a lab tells you nothing about the origin of the virus.
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The House sent legislation to President Joe Biden on Friday requiring the administration to declassify all information held by U.S. agencies relating to potential links between China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology and Covid-19.

Every representative present voted for the measure. Last week, the Senate passed it by unanimous consent. Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) sponsored the bill.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...covid-00086563


They are very worried. Dr. Fauci wasn’t the only one lying about COVID.

Senator Hawley responded to the Chi-Coms on Friday: “The bill will soon be law – unless you can convince President Biden to veto it. Time is up. Come clean about your role in spreading COVID to the world.”



"China has been so worked up about this COVID origins bill, Communist officials wrote to my office earlier this week and demanded I drop it. I thought I’d update President Xi on today’s passage "



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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Since you guys want to kill Fauci, I say kill yourselves first. Follow in your hero, Hitler's footsteps.
ROFLMFAOOOOO! I'm dying over here.. Ab. So. Lutely. Fuking dying! Fuking wincel.. Gets spun up hard AF whenever the sacred Rona or Fauci is disrespected lol.. If he's done it once he's done it fifty times or more! You can't even buy entertainment like this!

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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
ROFLMFAOOOOO! I'm dying over here.. Ab. So. Lutely. Fuking dying! Fuking wincel.. Gets spun up hard AF whenever the sacred Rona or Fauci is disrespected lol.. If he's done it once he's done it fifty times or more! You can't even buy entertainment like this!

Wincel doesn't even realize the parody of himself he has created. NAZI!!!

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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
BBC can say that. It seems kind of dumb to me. The word "origin" in natural origin means they are talking about...the origin...of the virus. Also, most who argued about the novel FCS, including you, pushed the idea that it was made inadvertently due to serial passaging or even deliberately engineered. That's why a lot of people, like Jeff Sachs, said it was "made in a lab". "Lab leak" is broader than that. Your BBC news thing is basically wrong.
BBC is correct. The only thing you are correct about is when you say lab leak is broader than "made in a lab". And that is why BBC is correct, because lab leak includes both unaltered and engineered virus theories. Always been that way.

Sorry this ain't working out for you.


Just LOL @ natural origins lab leak. Who the fuсk says that?

You and Fauci are fuсking morons.
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