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post 1678817763 03-12-2023, 09:27 AM
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Not pro-russia at all. But when every evil, lying, anti-american, grifting, piece of filth lines up behind something along with the full arm of the propaganda of the media, you have to be brain-dead to not question what's the real agenda.

Phuck all of them.
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Originally Posted By dmike100
Not pro-russia at all. But when every evil, lying, anti-american, grifting, piece of filth lines up behind something along with the full arm of the propaganda of the media, you have to be brain-dead to not question what's the real agenda.

Phuck all of them.
What is "American"? Because if it's Nuland's or Bolton's worldview, I fuking hate America, and it is the United Satan of America. Srs. Slava Rossii!
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
What is "American"? Because if it's Nuland's or Bolton's worldview, I fuking hate America, and it is the United Satan of America. Srs. Slava Rossii!
No, those are definitely included in the group I was referencing above. The founding fathers would be appalled at our government, left/right all corrupted uniparty scum.
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post 1678819023 03-12-2023, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat
If Canada was allowing Russia to set up positions close to the US border, and continued to do so after the US told them to stop, you think the US going into Canada to take control of the area and stop the Russian encroachment would be unwarranted? And if Canada decided to fight the US, the US should just retreat and let Russia have that position?
Ahhh the dumb and far-fetched "what if Canada or Mexico...." hypotheticals. Maybe there's a reason why the countries bordering Russia hate them and would rather be friends with the W. Europe and the US.
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat
You absolute tard.They are not invading, they are trying to get control of the areathanks to the US slowly weaseling their way in there like a c*nt and trying to take control / set up military bases within striking distances of Russia’s capital.

This is all instigated by the US, propagated by Ukraine via the American planted president Zelensky, and swallowed whole by mindless sh*t brains like you.

Congrats, you would need to gain about 30 points just to be considered low IQ

PS: really cute username to what the US is correlation.
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Originally Posted By dmike100
Not pro-russia at all. But when every evil, lying, anti-american, grifting, piece of filth lines up behind something along with the full arm of the propaganda of the media, you have to be brain-dead to not question what's the real agenda.

Phuck all of them.
This sums it up perfectly. When nearly the entirety of mainstream media is pushing an agenda so hard, you can be sure you are being lied to.

I feel bad for the Ukraine people and the Ukraine soldiers that are being used as pawns.

Phuck that attention seeking narcissist Zelenskyy. Dude craves fame (and apparently money) but even worse I don't need to be lectured by this a-hole from an awards show.
post 1678823633 03-12-2023, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
Its not that I side with Russia, its that I definitely do NOT side with ukriane in its current form.

Im part Ukrainian btw, but my family comes from an era when the Ukraine was alpha.
Jews hate Russia and have for years.

In the 80s USSR kicked a lot of jews out of the country, for being jews, and in general Eastern European people did not fall for the jewish nonsense and wanted them out. There's some countries in Eastern Europe where Christianity didn't even take hold well.

Meanwhile, all of these people are as white as you can get. So, Jews have launched a nonstop media assault on Russians.

So, "the left" is anti-Russian.

Meanwhile, Russia is a large and real country with a western lifestyle, white people, and they are interested in being productive. So, instead of pretending that Russians are barbarians living in grass houses with nukes outside, American business people interested in international trade want to side with Russia because it's a real country.

So, it's jewish media driven hate and delusions vs practical reality.
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post 1678823983 03-12-2023, 11:37 AM
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You retards realize that the missiles in those nato bases are pure defensive right?

Lmao@ falling for Russian propaganda talking points making it look like there were lots of pointy nukes all over nato bases looking straight at Russia.
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I think it has more to do with the USA sending billions to Ukraine when we literally have tent cities popping up in every major city over here.
post 1678824233 03-12-2023, 11:43 AM
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always lol @ pro russian subhumans



2% of all russians have HIV due to rampant gay sex, which they don't even consider to be gay

Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
I think it has more to do with the USA sending billions to Ukraine when we literally have tent cities popping up in every major city over here.
The aid sent is from the defence budget, not welfare. Unless you want to cut the defence budget of course, which russia and china absolutely would want
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Originally Posted By DSTEE
always lol @ pro russian subhumans



2% of all russians have HIV due to rampant gay sex, which they don't even consider to be gay





The aid sent is from the defence budget, not welfare. Unless you want to cut the defence budget of course, which russia and china absolutely would want
Then let's use it to improve the f35.... Sending it over there is the equivalent of donating your money to Africa.
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Not supporting taking on Ukraine’s fight does not equal Russian support
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They didn’t. People just stopped giving a fuk, especially after we gave billions upon billions of dollars to Ukraine with no end in sight and Zelenskyy started acting like an absolute ****ggot, including chiting on America. Even Hollywood libtards are sick of him at this point.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Then let's use it to improve the f35.... Sending it over there is the equivalent of donating your money to Africa.
That seems very dumb considering africa is in deep with russia and china
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It's 2023, anyone picking a side on a subject where you don't know all the facts is a cuck.

Although I will say, considering all the trouble Ukraine has caused Russia so far it probably makes sense to have invaded in 2022 rather than waiting until 2030 or 40 when they were fully inside NATO & equipped.
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Originally Posted By DSTEE
That seems very dumb considering africa is in deep with russia and china
China has been pushing so hard to expand their power base, access to resources, and countries dependent on them

Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea all need to be considered together and vying to displace the free world. Russia going after Ukraine is not about just Russia nor just Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
It's ironic that neonazis in the US side with antifascist Russia. But what would you expect?

And those of us who oppose fascism intend to use this against them. Weaponized retardation will bring an end to the neocons.
How do you define neonazis?

Fascism in the US:


Originally Posted By steeler505
This won't register with you braindead sheep, butpeople you consider 'pro-Russia' are actually just anti-WW3 and anti-money laundering.

Considering the only way this ever ends is if and when Russia inevitably steamrolls Ukraine, that ultimately makes me 'support' Russia. Because this is a neverending conflict otherwise.
Originally Posted By steeler505
SIMPLE logic therefore dictates, thatthe ONLY reason people are currently dying, is because NATO is supplying Ukraine.
Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
Putin cannot take and hold all of Ukraine. If the US were srs about ending this, we'd provide a guarantee of no NATO expansion and allow Putin to keep Donetsk, Crimea, and Lugansk, along with a guarantee of Russian language rights and protection of ethnic Russians in Ukraine. I believe he would stop if those conditions were met.
I appreciate that you recognize that the US/NATO are the ones responsible for continuing this needless killing and destruction.
Originally Posted By Darkeen
Because the corrupt Western establishment is a greater evil for the world than Putin and his mafia goons.Also you could argue that they were the original aggressors in this war. If you shove somebody 5 times then when they punch back, who is the true aggressor?

This war shouldn't be happening at all it could have easily been avoided if it weren't for the greed of the elites on both sides
Originally Posted By Mountaineer92
because blackrock, WEF/klau schwab, the epstein gang, etc. all side with ukraine. the worst ppl in the world, all side with ukraine.
Originally Posted By dmike100
Not pro-russia at all. But when every evil, lying, anti-american, grifting, piece of filth lines up behind something along with the full arm of the propaganda of the media, you have to be brain-dead to not question what's the real agenda.

Phuck all of them.
Yes.

You might like to watch this recent interview of General Michael Flynn-



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You can skip to around the 10 minute mark if you don't want to watch a long intro.

Says a type of socialism is being imposed in the US. He believes that the Ukraine war is being used by the globalist elite to help usher in their planned economic reset. Jump to about 47 minutes for that. Says we are at war with the Chinese and to believe otherwise if foolish.
Originally Posted By BigDaddyBiceps
I honestly do the opposite of what my government wants me to do because they have the opposite of my interests at heart. My enemies enemy is my friend.My government wants an endless stream of immigrants and stoked divisive politics to get each side to hate one another. My government says I have no culture and that I'm the problem with society despite being a hardworking friendly and kind person. My government forced me out of my job because they wanted to coerce me into taking an untested jab.

US had every chance in the book to usher in peace and all they did was enable the war so they could spend US tax dollars to fund the military industrial complex and sacrifice Ukranian citizens in order to enrich the coffers of Northrup, Boeing, Raytheon ETC ETC.


-Estimates of the cost of the rebuild Ukraine are multiple trillion
-Hundreds of thousands of families will have lasting inter generational trauma
-Ukrainian government one of the most corrupt and was installed via a US led coup
-Multiple US senators then put their children on the board of multiple Ukrainian countries with $500k salaries
-Thousands upon thousands of orphans will grow up without a dad
-CIA trained literal neo nazis to form a militia that shelled majority Russian cities in Ukraine

This was all preventable and now I just hope the US and Ukraine get rekt. Doesn't matter as long as US military corporations get paid. Has anyone realized that US pushing Ukraine to JOIN NATO FOR ITS SAFETY!!! Has completely ensured Ukraine's destruction? Ukraine is done. It will NEVER be a fraction of what it was which wasn't much. The state of Ukraine will take 40 to 50 years to recover from this, it's over. What was the point of wanting to join NATO? It's over, you're nothing now. Families, infrastructure, a future, it's all done. It's over.
There is a story that Ukraine is meant to be rebuilt to be the new Israel in Europe and that it will be the globalists shiny new construction utopia.
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eastern european countries wanting to escape russian corruption for western style democracy because its objectively better for its citizens

"NATO FORCED OUR HANDS, THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE WOULD LEAVE GLORIOUS RUSSIA IS IF THE CIA BRAINWASHED THEM AND STAGED COUPS"

lmao, brb nato missiles have gone from 187 to 120 seconds to hit Moscow, its over now!

ya'll live fantasy land
Great MAGA King status

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I side with them just to piss off liberals.
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NATO is a defensive alliance in its very nature, building up defenses in countries along Russia in response to their provocations over the years didn't force them to do anything and is just Russian bullchit propaganda.


Words on the internet don't change reality anyways though, arguing this online serves no purpose.
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Originally Posted By Destor
NATO is a defensive alliance in its very nature
No it is not.
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Originally Posted By Smithers115
eastern european countries wanting to escape russian corruption for western style democracy because its objectively better for its citizens

"NATO FORCED OUR HANDS, THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE WOULD LEAVE GLORIOUS RUSSIA IS IF THE CIA BRAINWASHED THEM AND STAGED COUPS"

lmao, brb nato missiles have gone from 187 to 120 seconds to hit Moscow, its over now!

ya'll live fantasy land
you do not have to join nato to have a western style democracy nor do you have to be a russia-centric you canadian cuck. go fellate some ******
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Originally Posted By MattBam87
No it is not.
Yes it is. Drop the cope goyo
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Just frustrated with the blind support of Ukraine because the media told you to. The media tells you Putin is just an insane warlord. Don’t think about how much money we’re sending and making disappear, just accept it. Post a Ukrainian flag avatar while you’re at it.
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Originally Posted By DSTEE
The aid sent is from the defence budget, not welfare. Unless you want to cut the defence budget of course, which russia and china absolutely would want
This sounds like msm talking points.

The only alternative to throwing tax dollars to Ukraine is to cut the defense budget?

No, there are plenty of alternatives. 1 is to sell stuff to Ukraine, so they directly fund their war.

2 instead of throwing money away at Ukraine, we just use that money to improve our own military.

3 not involve ourselves in a pointless war. This is like if the US invaded Mexico, why would anyone be against that. Imagine China saying what Liberals are saying about this.
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Originally Posted By goingcia
The US left them no choice. They had to make the move to protect their country from US aggression. Clearly you are too fukin dumb to realize that lol. You can classify it as invasion if you are too brainless to see the US instigated it (congrats to you).

No different than 3 guys backing you into a corner with intent to take the keys to your home. If you had no choice but to strike first to protect yourself and your home, technically you would be the one who committed assault, but morally you are in the right.
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Originally Posted By katya422
How do you define neonazis?

Fascism in the US:










I appreciate that you recognize that the US/NATO are the ones responsible for continuing this needless killing and destruction.








Yes.

You might like to watch this recent interview of General Michael Flynn-



Link:
A couple of months ago, it was reported the Biden's "think tank" in Philly is funded by millions of dollars from China.

That's a fact and not fake news.

Who got angry about that or wondered why the US president is getting funded by a foreign country?

NO ONE.

Yet, it appears that the US is heavily influenced by Chinese social ideology....but if no one cares, that's the way it goes.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
They are retarded. It's ironic that neonazis in the US side with antifascist Russia. But what would you expect? "Conservative" in America is code for "idiot". There is no consistent ideology other than whining. They see spending, and they don't like it. Americans, liberal or conservative, are stupid, easily manipulated people. The few smart conservatives in power are warmongering fascist imperials and understand this war serves their interests in destroying Russian equipment, containing their economy, and killing their military. But they can't sell it to the rabble that follow them.

And those of us who oppose fascism intend to use this against them. Weaponized retardation will bring an end to the neocons.
Meanwhile, this brah voted to support literal nazis and voted to put us on the brink of WW3

Fuking lmao
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Originally Posted By takers123
You absolute tard. Plenty of miscers have shown their true support for russia. I don’t support war but I also don’t support a sovereign country being invaded and taken over. Letting Russia take over will also fuel ww3 because they sure as hell won’t stop there.
How dumb do you have to be to think that the Ukraine, which had its election overturned by the US State Department so they could install their own guy in 2014, is a sovereign country?
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