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post 1679271663 03-20-2023, 09:38 AM
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It's not going to replace entire jobs for a long time but it's gonna cut down the amount of time needed to do them by a significant amount. Current AI isn't on the level where you can just tell it to do something and not proofread and fact check it.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
It's not going to replace entire jobs for a long time but it's gonna cut down the amount of time needed to do them by a significant amount. Current AI isn't on the level where you can just tell it to do something and not proofread and fact check it.
It's mindblowing to me how we are slowly making "Computer" from Star Trek. lol
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
It's not going to replace entire jobs for a long time but it's gonna cut down the amount of time needed to do them by a significant amount. Current AI isn't on the level where you can just tell it to do something and not proofread and fact check it.
Sorry but this cope. Ai is more than capable of doing most jobs now. It's infrastructure that's the only barrier. Same thing in the service industry, only reason the still hire low wage workers is they don't have things in place for it yet.

White collar jobs will go fast though, because really most are BS. Tradies will ironically outlast everyone. But society should embrace this, let the machines do labor. 200 years ago we mostly dealt with farms, times change
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post 1679272173 03-20-2023, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Sorry but this cope. Ai is more than capable of doing most jobs now. It's infrastructure that's the only barrier. Same thing in the service industry, only reason the still hire low wage workers is they don't have things in place for it yet.

White collar jobs will go fast though, because really most are BS. Tradies will ironically outlast everyone. But society should embrace this, let the machines do labor. 200 years ago we mostly dealt with farms, times change
I don't think a lot of people realize, but a great deal of journalism and comments sections are driven by AI algorithms.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Sorry but this cope. Ai is more than capable of doing most jobs now. It's infrastructure that's the only barrier. Same thing in the service industry, only reason the still hire low wage workers is they don't have things in place for it yet.

White collar jobs will go fast though, because really most are BS. Tradies will ironically outlast everyone. But society should embrace this, let the machines do labor. 200 years ago we mostly dealt with farms, times change
AI can't do math as both my and miscmathematician's examples showed. It can compute simple stuff, but as soon as you get something complicated, everything breaks. It can only execute some known algorithms. It can't reason its way to a proof or surmise alternate methods of solving something like a human can. Maybe some day, but not soon. And if it could, that would be the day it replaced human thought with its own.
post 1679272903 03-20-2023, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
AI can't do math as both my and miscmathematician's examples showed. It can compute simple stuff, but as soon as you get something complicated, everything breaks. It can only execute some known algorithms. It can't reason its way to a proof or surmise alternate methods of solving something like a human can.
I hope you realize they use AI for most advanced calculations. What you are suggesting is the value of maybe the very best and brightest mathematicians on the face of the earth, everyone else would be useless.
post 1679272953 03-20-2023, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
AI can't do math as both my and miscmathematician's examples showed. It can compute simple stuff, but as soon as you get something complicated, everything breaks. It can only execute some known algorithms. It can't reason its way to a proof or surmise alternate methods of solving something like a human can. Maybe some day, but not soon. And if it could, that would be the day it replaced human thought with its own.
Bro you're coping hard.

AI like chatGPT improves exponentially, not lineair.

Complicated maths will be something AI can do sooner than later.
post 1679273133 03-20-2023, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Sorry but this cope. Ai is more than capable of doing most jobs now. It's infrastructure that's the only barrier. Same thing in the service industry, only reason the still hire low wage workers is they don't have things in place for it yet.

White collar jobs will go fast though, because really most are BS. Tradies will ironically outlast everyone. But society should embrace this, let the machines do labor. 200 years ago we mostly dealt with farms, times change
I use ChatGPT daily for my work and I'd be out of a job really soon if I didn't check it and correct some mistakes. You are still going to need human beings for the input and also to check the output.
post 1679273153 03-20-2023, 10:04 AM
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None of this is actual AI. It's just running a script that was programmed in.

If X is typed in, return answer Y.

True AI comes when a program can erase and rewrite their own script.
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post 1679273513 03-20-2023, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Bro you're coping hard.

AI like chatGPT improves exponentially, not lineair.

Complicated maths will be something AI can do sooner than later.
AI is discretized, it cannot form abstract logical connections. It can repeat what humans devised, such as answering "why is a donut and a coffee cup the same?" but it could never come up with that by itself. In my case, it couldn't even be bothered
why can donut and a coffee cup be considered the same thing?

A donut and a coffee cup are not the same thing. They are two different objects with different functions and purposes.

A donut is a sweet baked good that is typically round with a hole in the middle. It is made from dough that is deep-fried or baked and can be flavored with various ingredients such as chocolate, cinnamon, or fruit.

A coffee cup, on the other hand, is a container used for holding and drinking coffee. It can be made from different materials such as ceramic, glass, or plastic, and comes in various shapes and sizes.

While it is true that a donut and a coffee cup can be associated with each other, such as when someone enjoys a donut with a cup of coffee, they are still two distinct objects that serve different purposes.
post 1679273593 03-20-2023, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Bro you're coping hard.

AI like chatGPT improves exponentially, not lineair.

Complicated maths will be something AI can do sooner than later.
Maybe. But if it will then humanity will be obsolete.
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
AI is discretized, it cannot form abstract logical connections. It can repeat what humans devised, such as "why is a donut and a coffee cup the same?" but it could never come up with that by itself.
There's philosophical debate on this. Strong AI might be possible though many disagree. I think it is possible.
post 1679273663 03-20-2023, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Bro you're coping hard.

AI like chatGPT improves exponentially, not lineair.

Complicated maths will be something AI can do sooner than later.
You're talking to a leftist. They are incapable of thinking ahead.
post 1679273733 03-20-2023, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
AI is discretized, it cannot form abstract logical connections. It can repeat what humans devised, such as answering "why is a donut and a coffee cup the same?" but it could never come up with that by itself. In my case, it couldn't even be bothered
...so far, sure.

But you're coping hard if you think AI will not catch up soon.

You guys should get updated on how big GPT 3.5 to 4 is.
post 1679273753 03-20-2023, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
You're talking to a leftist. They are incapable of thinking ahead.
Except I was talking about the immediate present. Why do you think you're smarter than me simply because I don't share your political views?
post 1679273873 03-20-2023, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
...so far, sure.

But you're coping hard if you think AI will not catch up soon.

You guys should get updated on how big GPT 3.5 to 4 is.
There is a philosophical issue with whether there is a distinction between the formalism and the semantics. Like what is meaning, really? What is thought? And if it is entirely physical, as I believe it to be, why wouldn't it be possible to simulate it to sufficient accuracy?
post 1679274083 03-20-2023, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Except I was talking about the immediate present. Why do you think you're smarter than me simply because I don't share your political views?
You're a brainwashed buffoon. It's safe to assume that most people here are smarter than you.

All you do is parrot things some idiots told you.
post 1679274603 03-20-2023, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
this. i asked it to compute a limit. it got the right answer but it couldn't really explain its giant leaps in reasoning even when repeatedly probed
Give it 5 years.

People are acting like because it cant do XYZ today, that must be true forever. No.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
You're a brainwashed buffoon. It's safe to assume that most people here are smarter than you.

All you do is parrot things some idiots told you.
It's not safe to assume that at all. Most people here struggle with basic math and physics.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Give it 5 years.

People are acting like because it cant do XYZ today, that must be true forever. No.
It can only draw from a repository of established data to train on. The kinds of questions and relationships in math require a semantic understanding to form new associations. That hasn't happened yet, and some computer scientists and philosophers believe it isn't possible. (I think it is possible if you simulate the coarse grained physics of a brain to sufficient accuracy.)
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
It's mindblowing to me how we are slowly making "Computer" from Star Trek. lol
Yup,first transparent aluminum,now this . Crazy times we live in
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
It's not safe to assume that at all. Most people here struggle with basic math and physics.
Right... and you're a phucking physicist.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Ask it to improve an algorithm or ask it more technical details from advanced mathematics. It will get things horribly wrong.
it's also bad at statistics.

For my work, I do a lot of statistical modeling. I tried getting it to generate a simple pearson correlation matrix but it failed 3 times.

This chatgpt uses natural language processing. So it won't replace high end coders/software engineers.
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Originally Posted By LuvVag⏩
So it won't replace high end coders/software engineers.
You will think different in a few years. Trust me. Not saying there is nothing to do you for but things gonna change.
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Originally Posted By goingcia⏩
It can even give you legal advice and generate a lawsuit.
Maybe a form complaint - nothing that requires any judgment calls or creativity
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
lol it can't do math

Actually tradie jobs, being repetitive, could easily be replaced with AI robots.
I just had it solve partial differentials and complex variables. It can definitely do math.
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Originally Posted By LuvVag⏩
it's also bad at statistics.

For my work, I do a lot of statistical modeling. I tried getting it to generate a simple pearson correlation matrix but it failed 3 times.

This chatgpt uses natural language processing. So it won't replace high end coders/software engineers.
chatgpt is just one example of AI, there's loads of specialized AI's being developed around the clock.
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Originally Posted By dingler⏩
I just had it solve partial differentials and complex variables. It can definitely do math.
Ask it to prove D'Alembert's formula for the solution of the wave equation using Fourier transforms. That's a fairly simple college level problem, but requires some details the program probably won't know.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Ask it to prove D'Alembert's formula for the solution of the wave equation using Fourier transforms. That's a fairly simple college level problem, but requires some details the program probably won't know.
Nah, nobody ever solves that chit, they are all in software packages. I work with electrical engineers that do that chit. I see your point though.
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