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post 1680578563 04-11-2023, 06:18 AM
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The Lamar Jackson situation is the fault of the NFLPA. Player restriction is too rigid. Get rid of the franchise tag and this isn't even an issue.
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Why are people so afraid of draft discourse? Chris Simms posted his rankings of edge rushers and had Will Anderson 5th. But on twitter everyone is just calling him names and what not. But if you look at past drafts, they're literally turned upside down. Busts all over the top 10 damn near every year. Elite players going in 3rd round, etc.

Here's the 2013 NFL draft.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...2013/draft.htm

If you sort it by wAV you can see where they should have actually been drafted. It's not the perfect metric by any means but it's not bad. By wAV it says that Bakhtiari, Kelce, DHop, Lane Johnson and Keenan Allen should have been the top 5 picks. They actually went 109, 63, 27, 4, 76
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Originally Posted By NorrinRadd12⏩
Why are people so afraid of draft discourse? Chris Simms posted his rankings of edge rushers and had Will Anderson 5th. But on twitter everyone is just calling him names and what not. But if you look at past drafts, they're literally turned upside down. Busts all over the top 10 damn near every year. Elite players going in 3rd round, etc.

Here's the 2013 NFL draft.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...2013/draft.htm

If you sort it by wAV you can see where they should have actually been drafted. It's not the perfect metric by any means but it's not bad. By wAV it says that Bakhtiari, Kelce, DHop, Lane Johnson and Keenan Allen should have been the top 5 picks. They actually went 109, 63, 27, 4, 76
Social Media has given people a platform to just lash out whenever someone has a differing opinion, especially in sports. Way I see it, I dont believe any mock draft or any expert until the draft unfolds because in reality nobody truly knows what teams are going to do or who is a bust or not. Who would've thought Purdy was the best QB out of last years draft? Nobody besides maybe himself lol
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post 1680642223 04-12-2023, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted By NorrinRadd12⏩
Why are people so afraid of draft discourse? Chris Simms posted his rankings of edge rushers and had Will Anderson 5th. But on twitter everyone is just calling him names and what not. But if you look at past drafts, they're literally turned upside down. Busts all over the top 10 damn near every year. Elite players going in 3rd round, etc.

Here's the 2013 NFL draft.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...2013/draft.htm

If you sort it by wAV you can see where they should have actually been drafted. It's not the perfect metric by any means but it's not bad. By wAV it says that Bakhtiari, Kelce, DHop, Lane Johnson and Keenan Allen should have been the top 5 picks. They actually went 109, 63, 27, 4, 76
Whereyou go is more important thanwhenyou go in the draft.
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post 1680650463 04-12-2023, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted By thigoonar⏩
Whereyou go is more important thanwhenyou go in the draft.
As far as the potential longevity of your career--perhaps. But the initial guaranteed $ difference from being a first rounder compared to a mid or late round pick is huge.
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post 1680652653 04-12-2023, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted By thigoonar⏩
Whereyou go is more important thanwhenyou go in the draft.
I tried to become an NFL Scout. The whole system is broken. They focus on certain traits that may not even be relevant to success in the NFL and ignore flaws. I was literally told not to worry about what a player can't do and only focus on what they can do. And then those players who can't do X, Y and Z get drafted top 10. It's crazy.
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post 1680677823 04-12-2023, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
Sherman isn’t necessarily wrong. The NFLPA routinely got butthurt with Brady for taking below market deals because they were then used against other quarterbacks in their negotiations. That doesn’t make it their responsibility to look out for anyone else, but his point is valid that Mahomes and Josh Allen didn’t do much to boost the market
258 and 500 million contracts. Boost the market? How much more does one player need? At some point these bloated contracts will stop going up because it's going to cripple teams.
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Looks like the sale is just about official to the Josh Harris group. The bad man is finally gone. Time to rebrand again and get rid off all of Snyder’s stink.
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[QUOTE=bezarker post_id=1680731603][imgimgur.com/MZDCVw1.png[/img][/QUOTE]Have you ever posted words in these threads?

Just words. No image
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Looks like the sale is just about official to the Josh Harris group. The bad man is finally gone. Time to rebrand again and get rid off all of Snyder’s stink.
Never thought I’d see the day tbh
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Originally Posted By ajdahlheimer⏩
As far as the potential longevity of your career--perhaps. But the initial guaranteed $ difference from being a first rounder compared to a mid or late round pick is huge.
Very true. If you go in the top 10, you're basically set for life. And you're very unlikely to get cut during your first contract. If you go in the later rounds, you're gonna have to work.
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post 1680772043 04-14-2023, 04:50 AM
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Never thought I’d see the day tbh
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Eagles and Jalen Hurts reached agreement on a five-year, $255 million extension, including $179.304 million guaranteed, per source.

Hurts becomes the highest-paid player in NFL history in a deal negotiated by Nicole Lynn of Klutch Sports Group and Eagles’ GM Howie Roseman.
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
Have you ever posted words in these threads?

Just words. No image
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post 1680982413 04-17-2023, 12:31 PM
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Eagles built an elite team around an average to below average QB then give said QB $50M+ a year.
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Originally Posted By NorrinRadd12⏩
Eagles built an elite team around an average to below average QB then give said QB $50M+ a year.
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One good year and now they overpay him
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post 1681036843 04-18-2023, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By bezarker⏩
Philly has without a doubt the best offensive line in the league and a top 5-7 WR/TE group. That's why the 53rd overall pick with marginal arm talent can be an MVP candidate.

The contract numbers are fluff anyway. The real contract is 4 years, $73.4M.
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Originally Posted By norrinradd12⏩
philly has without a doubt the best offensive line in the league and a top 5-7 wr/te group. That's why the 53rd overall pick with marginal arm talent can be an mvp candidate.

The contract numbers are fluff anyway. The real contract is 4 years, $73.4m.
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I said the same thing when Kaep led the niners to the SB... Great team around him but is he worth that money so soon? And yeah that turned upside quick lol

With Hurts idk yet, too soon to be determined but Philly needed to pay him now because they had no fifth year option since he was drafted in the 2nd round. Is he worth it? again idk but man this offseason has felt quite fun with NFL news and such
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Originally Posted By NorrinRadd12⏩
Eagles built an elite team around an average to below average QB then give said QB $50M+ a year.
Lamar is that you
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Originally Posted By Vikes723⏩
I said the same thing when Kaep led the niners to the SB... Great team around him but is he worth that money so soon? And yeah that turned upside quick lol

With Hurts idk yet, too soon to be determined but Philly needed to pay him now because they had no fifth year option since he was drafted in the 2nd round. Is he worth it? again idk but man this offseason has felt quite fun with NFL news and such
They've royally screwed themselves if they don't win a SB in the Next two years
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
They've royally screwed themselves if they don't win a SB in the Next two years
Nfc kinda sucks so at least they should have a decent shot at it
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I feel like this is one of the type of situations we have to let play out.. Jalen Hurts was a monster this season.. led the Eagles to the SB(played a big part), was the best QB for fantasy (thanks hurts) and absolutely BALLED OUT in the Super Bowl.. since i'm not an Eagles fan i'm not really invested in this but i'd say Jalen Hurts DOES deserve the money. More so if he can play like this for a few more years.. he's only what, 24
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Originally Posted By 2010JW⏩
I feel like this is one of the type of situations we have to let play out.. Jalen Hurts was a monster this season.. led the Eagles to the SB(played a big part), was the best QB for fantasy (thanks hurts) and absolutely BALLED OUT in the Super Bowl.. since i'm not an Eagles fan i'm not really invested in this but i'd say Jalen Hurts DOES deserve the money. More so if he can play like this for a few more years.. he's only what, 24
He didn't lead them to the Super Bowl. A team that has the best offensive line in the league and is 3rd all time in sacks is going to the Super Bowl regardless of who the QB is. Especially when all you have to do is beat Daniel Jones and Brock Purdy/Josh Johnson. He also made an error that was single biggest factor that lost them the game.
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Originally Posted By NorrinRadd12⏩
He didn't lead them to the Super Bowl. A team that has the best offensive line in the league and is 3rd all time in sacks is going to the Super Bowl regardless of who the QB is. Especially when all you have to do is beat Daniel Jones and Brock Purdy/Josh Johnson. He also made an error that was single biggest factor that lost them the game.
Yeah, when Minshew started and Jalen Hurts was out, the Eagles won those games right? Consider that it wasn't EVEN the playoffs (Dallas, the fukking SAINTS) LOL

I see what you're saying but LOL @ trying to discredit Hurts... srs
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Originally Posted By 2010JW⏩
Yeah, when Minshew started and Jalen Hurts was out, the Eagles won those games right? Consider that it wasn't EVEN the playoffs (Dallas, the fukking SAINTS) LOL

I see what you're saying but LOL @ trying to discredit Hurts... srs
Minshew threw for 355 and 2 TDs vs the Cowboys and lost 34-40. Hurts had 6 games.. SIX... where he didn't throw a TD and the Eagles went 6-0.
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